Bug#354163: apmd: Computer does not switch off any more

2006-08-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
To test this problem, I did a fresh debian/sid installation on my old
IBM Thinkpad X30 laptop, and tried 'shutdown -h now'.  It powered down
as it should.  It was using kernel version 2.6.17-1-686 and
initscripts version 2.86.ds1-15.  I used lsmod to verify that no acpi
nor apm kernel modules were loaded, so I doubt either is involved.n

So I was wrong when I believed the kernel failed to power down on all
machines currently.  It seem to work on at least one machine. :)

When your machine do 'shutdown -h now', what is the last message
appearing on the screen?  When I do it in qemu, I get these lines:

  Will now halt
  Shutdown: hda
  System halted.

The first line is from init.d/halt, the second is from /sbin/halt, and
the the last line is printed by the kernel in the reboot() call.  Do
you see these lines when your machine fail to power down?


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Bug#354163: apmd: Computer does not switch off any more

2006-08-04 Thread Andreas Tille

On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:


When your machine do 'shutdown -h now', what is the last message
appearing on the screen?  When I do it in qemu, I get these lines:

 Will now halt
 Shutdown: hda
 System halted.

The first line is from init.d/halt, the second is from /sbin/halt, and
the the last line is printed by the kernel in the reboot() call.  Do
you see these lines when your machine fail to power down?


Would it help if I say sometimes or even most times when the
system has switched to console.  It sometimes sticked on displaying
the X screen.

Some more details about this problem I posted to debian-devel at

   http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/03/msg01108.html

It might especially be interesting that I observed at one single
occurence

   Unmounting remote and non-toplevel virtual filesystems ... done

after the System haltet.

Kind regards

 Andreas.

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Bug#354163: apmd: Computer does not switch off any more

2006-08-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

I had a look at this problem, and as far as I an see, the kernel is
the entity responsible for turning off the machine.  At the end of
init.d/halt, 'halt -d -f -i -p -h is called, and this end up with a
syscall 'reboot(RB_POWER_OFF)'.  I guess the problem is that this
syscall do not turn off the power any more.  I have no idea why.

Could it be that the kernel changed to try to call some user space
programs using udev or similar before turning off the power?  udev is
dead at this point, so that is doomed to fail.

To test this hypotesis, I tested in qemu with
URL:http://koltsoff.com/pub/reboot4fun/poweroff.c (random link I
found via google), and this did not shut down qemu, even if all user
space programs were running as normal.  I was using debian kernel
2.6.17-1-686.  I also tested this on an old ubuntu installation with
kernel 2.6.10-5-386, and there the machine powered down.

Could this be apm/acpi related?  I suspect it is.


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Bug#354163: apmd: Computer does not switch off any more

2006-08-03 Thread Andreas Tille

On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:

I'm absolutely uneducated in this field but I try to add some
perhaps useful information here.


I had a look at this problem, and as far as I an see, the kernel is
the entity responsible for turning off the machine.  At the end of
init.d/halt, 'halt -d -f -i -p -h is called, and this end up with a
syscall 'reboot(RB_POWER_OFF)'.  I guess the problem is that this
syscall do not turn off the power any more.  I have no idea why.


While the original bug report was about the problem that the box
is not switched of I would like to add that the problem also occurs
at a reboot.  If I try to reboot (without trying to power off)
the shutdown process stops at the very same point (obtained by
my poor knowledge from the printed text at console).  So some
process seems to be running before the reboot call you mentioned.


Could it be that the kernel changed to try to call some user space
programs using udev or similar before turning off the power?  udev is
dead at this point, so that is doomed to fail.


I would like to add here, that this problem also occurs on machines
with kernel versions below 2.6.12 and no udev package installed.


To test this hypotesis, I tested in qemu with
URL:http://koltsoff.com/pub/reboot4fun/poweroff.c (random link I
found via google), and this did not shut down qemu, even if all user
space programs were running as normal.  I was using debian kernel
2.6.17-1-686.  I also tested this on an old ubuntu installation with
kernel 2.6.10-5-386, and there the machine powered down.

Could this be apm/acpi related?  I suspect it is.


I might remember that the problem occures on ACPI enabled machines
as well as on older boxes that only know APM.

As I said the problem is between initscripts_2.86.ds1-10_i386.deb and
initscripts_2.86.ds1-11_i386.deb.  I'm currently work happily
with a initscripts_2.86.ds1-10_i386.deb set on hold.

Kind regards

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Bug#354163: apmd: Computer does not switch off any more

2006-07-21 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 09:32:32PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
Package: apmd
Severity: normal

Hi,

after my last upgrade to latest testing I observed that
the computer does not switch off after a halt command
any more.  The effect occurs with differen kernels and
different boxes.  At console the usual last messages
occure (system halted / harddisk stoped or something
like that) but the machine keeps on running and I have
to press the power switch for a couple of seconds.
After rebooting the machine a fscheck is forced.

I think Scott has implemented a fix for this bug. It would
be nice if he could provide a patch. As soon as it's merged
in the sysvinit package, I'll do the correponding changes to
apmd.

Feel free to ask for further information.

Kind regards and thanks for maintaing apmd

   Andreas.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (501, 'testing'), (50, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.15
Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15) (ignored: 
LC_ALL set to [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

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Bug#354163: apmd: Computer does not switch off any more

2006-07-21 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 23:21 +1000, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 09:32:32PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:

 after my last upgrade to latest testing I observed that
 the computer does not switch off after a halt command
 any more.  The effect occurs with differen kernels and
 different boxes.  At console the usual last messages
 occure (system halted / harddisk stoped or something
 like that) but the machine keeps on running and I have
 to press the power switch for a couple of seconds.
 After rebooting the machine a fscheck is forced.
 
 I think Scott has implemented a fix for this bug. It would
 be nice if he could provide a patch. As soon as it's merged
 in the sysvinit package, I'll do the correponding changes to
 apmd.
 
I don't think I do?

Scott
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Bug#354163: apmd: Computer does not switch off any more

2006-02-23 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: apmd
Severity: normal

Hi,

after my last upgrade to latest testing I observed that
the computer does not switch off after a halt command
any more.  The effect occurs with differen kernels and
different boxes.  At console the usual last messages
occure (system halted / harddisk stoped or something
like that) but the machine keeps on running and I have
to press the power switch for a couple of seconds.
After rebooting the machine a fscheck is forced.

Feel free to ask for further information.

Kind regards and thanks for maintaing apmd

   Andreas.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (501, 'testing'), (50, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.15
Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15) (ignored: 
LC_ALL set to [EMAIL PROTECTED])


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