Bug#354535: gnome-cups-manager: Unable to find the program from Menu
severity #354535 normal stop Hi, As a Debian developer, you should know about bug severities. gnome-cups-manager is not unusable because you think it is hard to find. On Mon, Feb 27, 2006, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: This is a usability problem that I encountered. I expected the gnome-cups-manager (or some kind of print configuration menu) to appear under the Applications-System Tools menu as to be expected with any GNOME configuration tool, but I cannot find any kind of way to invoke it from not only this place but also the place pointer out by the menu file. GNOME configuration tools are divided in 2 areas, and definitely not under Applications-System Tools. Applications-System Tools is meant for low-level applications, which are typically used when diagnosing low-level problems. The *configuration* tools are below the Desktop panel menu, under either Preferences when they affect the current user, or under Administration when they affect the system. gnome-cups-manager is below Desktop-Administration. The purpose of projects like GNOME is defeated by making it difficult to find, let alone, difficult to use. I am *not* a lay user and I experience a lot of difficulty get printing to work with GNOME, gnome-cups-manager is just one hurdle. I wonder how difficult it will be for a lay user to use a printer with GNOME. If you have a gripe against GNOME, feel free to start a constructive discussion on one of their list, or open an upstream bug report against the relevant product. The Debian BTS is not the place to discuss your global opinion on what GNOME is for and your feelings. Cheers, -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Earth status: NOT DESTROYED
Bug#354535: gnome-cups-manager: Unable to find the program from Menu
|| On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:05:55 +0100 || Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lool severity #354535 normal lool stop lool Hi, lool As a Debian developer, you should know about bug severities. lool gnome-cups-manager is not unusable because you think it is hard to lool find. Thanks. I made a mistake while making severity selection. My appologies. lool GNOME configuration tools are divided in 2 areas, and definitely not lool under Applications-System Tools. Applications-System Tools is meant lool for low-level applications, which are typically used when diagnosing lool low-level problems. lool The *configuration* tools are below the Desktop panel menu, under lool either Preferences when they affect the current user, or under lool Administration when they affect the system. lool gnome-cups-manager is below Desktop-Administration. Didn't know it was arranged that way. ADSL/PPPOE configuration tool was the first I saw under system tools. Particularly since modern GNU/Linux GUIs try to emulate Microsoft WIndows so much, I expected it to find it there. Infact, it looks like the Administration menu itself seem to have been created in my system when gnome-cups-manager was installed, there wasn't such a menu item before. And there is no derth of configuration software in my system ranging from file browser to configuration editor under the System tools menu. It's surprising to me that these are split that way. I am simply saying that this is too confusing. This is *not* a GNOME problem but a Debian problem. It needs to be better arranged, IMHO. If you feel even this email is cluttering BTS, sorry, I will stop filing such bugs. I will file an upstream bug anyway. -- Ramakrishnan
Bug#354535: gnome-cups-manager: Unable to find the program from Menu
Package: gnome-cups-manager Version: 0.31-1.1 Severity: grave Hi, This is a usability problem that I encountered. I expected the gnome-cups-manager (or some kind of print configuration menu) to appear under the Applications-System Tools menu as to be expected with any GNOME configuration tool, but I cannot find any kind of way to invoke it from not only this place but also the place pointer out by the menu file. The purpose of projects like GNOME is defeated by making it difficult to find, let alone, difficult to use. I am *not* a lay user and I experience a lot of difficulty get printing to work with GNOME, gnome-cups-manager is just one hurdle. I wonder how difficult it will be for a lay user to use a printer with GNOME. Ramakrishnan -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) Versions of packages gnome-cups-manager depends on: ii libart-2.0-2 2.3.17-1 Library of functions for 2D graphi ii libatk1.0-01.10.1-2 The ATK accessibility toolkit ii libbonobo2-0 2.10.0-1 Bonobo CORBA interfaces library ii libbonoboui2-0 2.10.0-1 The Bonobo UI library ii libc6 2.3.5-8 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libcupsys2 1.1.23-12 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - ii libgconf2-42.12.1-8 GNOME configuration database syste ii libglade2-01:2.5.1-2 library to load .glade files at ru ii libglib2.0-0 2.8.6-1 The GLib library of C routines ii libgnome-keyring0 0.4.3-2 GNOME keyring services library ii libgnome2-02.10.1-1 The GNOME 2 library - runtime file ii libgnomecanvas2-0 2.12.0-2 A powerful object-oriented display ii libgnomecups1.0-1 0.2.0-2 GNOME library for CUPS interaction ii libgnomecupsui1.0-1c2a 0.31-1.1 UI extensions to libgnomecups ii libgnomeui-0 2.10.1-1 The GNOME 2 libraries (User Interf ii libgnomevfs2-0 2.12.2-5 GNOME virtual file-system (runtime ii libgtk2.0-02.8.10-1 The GTK+ graphical user interface ii libice66.8.2.dfsg.1-6Inter-Client Exchange library ii liborbit2 1:2.12.2-3libraries for ORBit2 - a CORBA ORB ii libpango1.0-0 1.10.2-1 Layout and rendering of internatio ii libpopt0 1.7-5 lib for parsing cmdline parameters ii libsm6 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6X Window System Session Management ii libx11-6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6X Window System protocol client li ii libxml22.6.23.dfsg.1-0.1 GNOME XML library ii xlibs 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6X Window System client libraries m ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3-4 compression library - runtime Versions of packages gnome-cups-manager recommends: ii gksu 1.3.6-1graphical frontend to su -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
