Bug#384832: Broken links for debian manual

2006-09-01 Thread Martin Schulze
Hi!

Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:18:28PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:09:09PM +0200, Stephan Fuhrmann wrote:
> > > this one http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#quick-reference
> > > 
> > > seems to be broken on all web servers (404, not found) for all languages
> > > i tried in HTML form:
> > > 
> > > * http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html
> > > * http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.fr.html
> > > * http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.de.html
> > > * ...
> 
> Yep.  Someone changed build script.

See <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> copied to you.

>  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/index.de.html
> now exist.

Yes, that's what it should look like.  I only forgot to alter the
references

> > > Best regards and keep up your very very good work,
> > 
> > Thanks for reporting this.  I've copied this message to the debian-doc
> > team, who maintain that section of the web site.
> 
> (My mail may be rejected by debian-ML due to some funny filter.)

I hope not.

> I was told via Joey:
> > > > the /doc/manuals/debian-reference webpage has no index.html file, while
> > > > the package debian-reference has one - maybe someone with admins rights
> > > > could copy that over?
> 
> Then without thinking too much, someone changed above URL ending
> index.??.html

Not without but with a lot of thinking.

> Sigh.  Whoever touched file, please put it back or discuss with me how
> to addres issues without causing other issues.  This is also reported as
> Bug#384832.

Same bug we're talking about.

Why do you object to having the reference index page built as index
page?  Can't be that bad since the other DDP documents are built in a
similar fashion.

> I thought I told bug reporter there is the reason why I did this
> intentionally.  If someone wants index.??.html, please make old link as
> symlinks or so so old links will be OK.  Also let's fix upstream CVS and
> copy contents.  The souce is version tracked with upstream CVS contents.
> Anyway, let's talk how to go at this first, please.

With regards to the Debian website, the upstream source is the
debian-doc CVS repository.

Your rationale against the index.$(LANG).html files was that users may
want another language.  However, on the Debian website, this is
usually achieved via content negotiation and not via a directory
listing as index page.  There's no reason to handle these two
references differently.

Regards,

Joey

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Bug#384832: Broken links for debian manual

2006-08-31 Thread Jens Seidel
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 11:19:41PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:18:28PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:09:09PM +0200, Stephan Fuhrmann wrote:
> > > this one http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#quick-reference
> > > 
> > > seems to be broken on all web servers (404, not found) for all languages
> > > i tried in HTML form:
> > > 
> > > * http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html
> > > * http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.fr.html
> > > * http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.de.html
> > > * ...
> 
> Yep.  Someone changed build script.
>  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/index.de.html
> now exist.

I changed all links on the Debian website.

> Then without thinking too much, someone changed above URL ending
> index.??.html

Is this really so bad?

> Sigh.  Whoever touched file, please put it back or discuss with me how
> to addres issues without causing other issues.  This is also reported as
> Bug#384832.

Whoops, I read this to late ...

> I thought I told bug reporter there is the reason why I did this
> intentionally.  If someone wants index.??.html, please make old link as
> symlinks or so so old links will be OK.  Also let's fix upstream CVS and
> copy contents.  The souce is version tracked with upstream CVS contents.
> Anyway, let's talk how to go at this first, please.
> 
> Problem of changing DDP CVS only withou me knowing it has [posible
> issue.  Because when I update source, I do it in upstream and test it.
> Then I copy all contents over Debian ones.  

Osamu, I will try to update upstream as well. Synchronising should not
be difficult. Since the German network chapter is now (or in the near
future?) completely updated, we need to sync anyway.

Jens


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Bug#384832: Broken links for debian manual

2006-08-29 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

Thanks Matt,

On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:18:28PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:09:09PM +0200, Stephan Fuhrmann wrote:
> > this one http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#quick-reference
> > 
> > seems to be broken on all web servers (404, not found) for all languages
> > i tried in HTML form:
> > 
> > * http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html
> > * http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.fr.html
> > * http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.de.html
> > * ...

Yep.  Someone changed build script.
 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/index.de.html
now exist.

> > Best regards and keep up your very very good work,
> 
> Thanks for reporting this.  I've copied this message to the debian-doc
> team, who maintain that section of the web site.

(My mail may be rejected by debian-ML due to some funny filter.)

I was told via Joey:
> > > the /doc/manuals/debian-reference webpage has no index.html file, while
> > > the package debian-reference has one - maybe someone with admins rights
> > > could copy that over?

Then without thinking too much, someone changed above URL ending
index.??.html

Sigh.  Whoever touched file, please put it back or discuss with me how
to addres issues without causing other issues.  This is also reported as
Bug#384832.

I thought I told bug reporter there is the reason why I did this
intentionally.  If someone wants index.??.html, please make old link as
symlinks or so so old links will be OK.  Also let's fix upstream CVS and
copy contents.  The souce is version tracked with upstream CVS contents.
Anyway, let's talk how to go at this first, please.

Problem of changing DDP CVS only withou me knowing it has [posible
issue.  Because when I update source, I do it in upstream and test it.
Then I copy all contents over Debian ones.  

Osamu



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