Bug#385768: installation-reports: Failed to reboot x86 SCSI system
Christian Perrier wrote : Then it doesn't even boot No idea...:) Hopefully other people will be more helpful. I have found the problem :-) This was my fault : bad configurations at the SCSI controller (wrong boot ID and no auto-spinning for the new boot device). I had neatly optimized my SCSI setting and forgot to fully adapt it for the new Debian Installer tests on the new disk. Sorry for the unjustified alert :-\ So the actual result of a new install after updated SCSI configuration is now : Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot worked:[O] Configure network HW: [O] Config network: [E] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems:[O] Mount partitions: [O] Install base system:[O] Install boot loader:[O] Reboot: [O] As for the network, I have simply installed pppoeconfig after the system rebooted and then I had a working connection to the Internet, just like with Sarge. I'll do some more tests regarding the Ethernet Speedtouch modem (using Mandriva + configuring the modem through HTTP) and I will then suggest an information text that I hope the DI team will find appropriate/legitimate enough to include somewhere to help the Ethernet Speedtouch users. Just to be sure : there isn't anymore second stage install (if I'm not mistaken about the second stage install term) now ? When the system reboots its now supposed to be operational ? I'm asking because if I remember well this was different with Sarge and I want to be sure that there isn't any step missing in what happened on my machine. Thanks, -- Marc-Aurèle DARCHE AFUL http://www.aful.org/ Association Francophone des Utilisateurs de Linux/Logiciels Libres French speaking Linux and Libre Software Users' Association
Bug#385768: installation-reports: Failed to reboot x86 SCSI system
This wasn't successful but I guess this is the old problem that we have with Alcatel Speedtouch DSL modems with (at least) the first Debian Installer on Debian Sarge. I might provide install reports dedicated to network configuration later when I manage to reboot the machine with Etch Debian Installer. Is this a USB DSL modem ? These things usually need some firmware crap to be loaded and the installer currently doesn't support this for them. IIRC, there's a dedicated package for these modems so that mostly means that you should install the stuff after the general system install. 2. Reboot This is the blocker for this install. When the machine reboots, the system says that there isn't any SCSI bootable device. I provide below the grub-installer trace just in case, but it seems everything is fine from here. Moreover /dev/sdb1 is rightly marked as bootable in the partition table. I haven't any idea on what's wrong. I have kept the SCSI disk on which this install was done for any post-mortem examination. So if you need any logs, please just ask. What would help is as much as possible thigns from the boot messages. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#385768: installation-reports: Failed to reboot x86 SCSI system
Christian Perrier a écrit : This wasn't successful but I guess this is the old problem that we have with Alcatel Speedtouch DSL modems with (at least) the first Debian Installer on Debian Sarge. I might provide install reports dedicated to network configuration later when I manage to reboot the machine with Etch Debian Installer. Is this a USB DSL modem ? These things usually need some firmware crap to be loaded and the installer currently doesn't support this for them. IIRC, there's a dedicated package for these modems so that mostly means that you should install the stuff after the general system install. No this is not the USB DSL modem. This is the ethernet one. I realize I should have been more precise on this after sending my report, sorry. I already described the problem when testing Sarge installers : http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/10/msg00357.html and I guess the situation has not changed. According to what was said on debian-boot@lists.debian.org in 2004, the modem is faulty because it acts has a DHCP server, and is discover as such by the Debian Installer, while it doesn't provide a route to the outside. The modem is supposed to be configurable enough through its web interface, cf. http://forum.zebulon.fr/index.php?showtopic=88739 to be able to act as a true DHCP server. The main problem is that this is not the shipping default and thus joe users simply think that Debian cannot be installed on those ethernet modems. The other problem is that many users fear a bit to break the configuration of their modem. This is my case, I'm a bit reluctant to break my working connection :-\ But I will try to install another distribution such as Mandriva to test how well it performs with this modem very present in France. This might give us some hints. Anyway as I said in 2004, I think that a little text part should be added somewhere stating that the Alcatel Ethernet Speedtouch does not work out of the box with Etch. I suggested that it should be in the errata and it seems it was a wrong choice. So maybe the release notes would be a better place. 2. Reboot This is the blocker for this install. When the machine reboots, the system says that there isn't any SCSI bootable device. I provide below the grub-installer trace just in case, but it seems everything is fine from here. Moreover /dev/sdb1 is rightly marked as bootable in the partition table. I haven't any idea on what's wrong. I have kept the SCSI disk on which this install was done for any post-mortem examination. So if you need any logs, please just ask. What would help is as much as possible thigns from the boot messages. As I said : the system says that there isn't any SCSI bootable device. The reboot doesn't go further, nothing is loaded, no little trace of a first stage of GRUB or anything. So I guess that the MBR wasn't written, as simple as that. grep -i mbr /var/log/installer/* returns nothing in case of writing to the mbr should be mentioned in the installer logs. How could I check the content of the MBR of the disk ? What command should I run ? Is it possible ? I must say that I did the installation 5 times to be sure that I was concentrated enough and not trying to do something more advanced with the partitions like testing the LVM and encryption features :-) So this present report is truly about the simplest default install of Debian Etch that is :-) And I should also say that the machine on which I'm trying this Etch installer is a machine which has been successfully installed with different Debian stable releases over the years (and not simply APT updated). This is why I really think that there is a problem since the installers that come with Potato (floppies) and Sarge have managed to install Debian on it. Thanks Christian and thanks to all, -- Marc-Aurèle DARCHE AFUL http://www.aful.org/ Association Francophone des Utilisateurs de Linux/Logiciels Libres French speaking Linux and Libre Software Users' Association
Bug#385768: installation-reports: Failed to reboot x86 SCSI system
to be able to act as a true DHCP server. The main problem is that this is not the shipping default and thus joe users simply think that Debian cannot be installed on those ethernet modems. The other problem is that many users fear a bit to break the configuration of their modem. This is my case, I'm a bit reluctant to break my working connection :-\ But I will try to install another distribution such as Mandriva to test how well it performs with this modem very present in France. This might give us some hints. Well, I can place a safe bet that any other distro will have the same problem. If it sees a DHCP server, it will use it...:-) I don't really see what we could do as, just like you mentioned, the only way to get that crappy thing work is first setting it up with a web browser. Anyway as I said in 2004, I think that a little text part should be added somewhere stating that the Alcatel Ethernet Speedtouch does not work out of the box with Etch. I suggested that it should be in the Anything that needs inital setup will not work with Etch or whatever else. As I said : the system says that there isn't any SCSI bootable device. The reboot doesn't go further, nothing is loaded, no little trace of a first stage of GRUB or anything. Then it doesn't even boot So I guess that the MBR wasn't written, as simple as that. grep -i mbr /var/log/installer/* returns nothing in case of writing to the mbr should be mentioned in the installer logs. How could I check the content of the MBR of the disk ? What command should I run ? Is it possible ? No idea...:) Hopefully other people will be more helpful. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#385768: installation-reports: Failed to reboot x86 SCSI system
Package: installation-reports Version: etch_di_beta3/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso Severity: important Boot method: CD Image version: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_beta3/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso Date: 2006-09-03 Machine: PC i686 + SCSI (no IDE disks/CD drives) Processor: Pentium II (Klamath) Memory: 512Mb Partitions: Disk /dev/sdb: 36.7 GB, 36703934464 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4462 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1427734354971 83 Linux /dev/sdb242784462 1486012+ 5 Extended /dev/sdb542784462 1485981 82 Linux swap / Solaris Output of lspci and lspci -n: :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 02) :00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 02) :00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) :00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) :00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) :00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) :00:08.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c895 (rev 01) :00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1370 [AudioPCI] (rev 01) :00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT86C100A [Rhine] (rev 06) :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G550 AGP (rev 01) :00:00.0 0600: 8086:7190 (rev 02) :00:01.0 0604: 8086:7191 (rev 02) :00:07.0 0601: 8086:7110 (rev 02) :00:07.1 0101: 8086:7111 (rev 01) :00:07.2 0c03: 8086:7112 (rev 01) :00:07.3 0680: 8086:7113 (rev 02) :00:08.0 0100: 1000:000c (rev 01) :00:0b.0 0401: 1274:5000 (rev 01) :00:0c.0 0200: 1106:3043 (rev 06) :01:00.0 0300: 102b:2527 (rev 01) Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot worked:[O] Configure network HW: [O] Config network: [E] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems:[O] Mount partitions: [O] Install base system:[O] Install boot loader:[O] Reboot: [E] Comments/Problems: Base System Installation Checklist: First, the first Sarge Debian Installer runs fine on this machine both using Linux kernel 2.4 and 2.6. 1. Config network This wasn't successful but I guess this is the old problem that we have with Alcatel Speedtouch DSL modems with (at least) the first Debian Installer on Debian Sarge. I might provide install reports dedicated to network configuration later when I manage to reboot the machine with Etch Debian Installer. 2. Reboot This is the blocker for this install. When the machine reboots, the system says that there isn't any SCSI bootable device. I provide below the grub-installer trace just in case, but it seems everything is fine from here. Moreover /dev/sdb1 is rightly marked as bootable in the partition table. I haven't any idea on what's wrong. I have kept the SCSI disk on which this install was done for any post-mortem examination. So if you need any logs, please just ask. Sep 2 21:28:15 grub-installer: info: Installing grub on '(hd0)' Sep 2 21:28:16 grub-installer: info: grub-install supports --no-floppy Sep 2 21:28:16 grub-installer: info: Running chroot /target /sbin/grub-install --recheck --no-floppy (hd0) Sep 2 21:28:16 grub-installer: Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. Sep 2 21:28:40 grub-installer: Installation finished. No error reported. Sep 2 21:28:40 grub-installer: This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map. Sep 2 21:28:40 grub-installer: Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect, Sep 2 21:28:40 grub-installer: fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'. Sep 2 21:28:40 grub-installer: Sep 2 21:28:40 grub-installer: (hd0)^I/dev/sda Sep 2 21:28:40 grub-installer: info: grub-install ran successfully Sep 2 21:28:40 grub-installer: Searching for GRUB installation directory ... Sep 2 21:28:40 grub-installer: found: /boot/grub Sep 2 21:28:41 grub-installer: Testing for an existing GRUB menu.list file ... Sep 2 21:28:41 grub-installer: Sep 2 21:28:41 grub-installer: Sep 2 21:28:41 grub-installer: Could not find /boot/grub/menu.lst file. Sep 2 21:28:41 grub-installer: Sep 2 21:28:41 grub-installer: Generating /boot/grub/menu.lst Sep 2 21:28:41 grub-installer: Searching for splash image ... Sep 2 21:28:41 grub-installer: none found, skipping ... Sep 2 21:28:41 grub-installer: Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16-2-686 Sep 2 21:28:41 grub-installer: Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... Sep 2 21:28:41 grub-installer: done Sep 2 21:28:41 grub-installer: Thanks
