Bug#394744: Package: installation-reports

2006-10-23 Thread Geert Stappers
reopen 394744
retitle 394744 provide a hint when unsupport hardware is detected
severity 394744 wishlist
thanks

Op 23-10-2006 om 07:08 schreef Andreas Tille:
 The additional hint I wanted to give is that there should be some easily
 detectable information for newbies if something like that happens.
 
 I would think the following would be helpful (for instance in the case of
 a not detected NIC):
 
   Your computer contains a network card `output of lspci | grep Ethernet`
   This is card seems not to be supported by the current installation kernel
   of Debian GNU/Linux.  (Don't know whether this is a reasonable guess
   because there might be other types of failure.)
 
   You might try to ask your favourite Search Engine to browse the internet
   for Debian Linux `string from above` or ask debian-user for further 
   help.
 
 The problem is that I wanted to demonstrate a newbie how easy it is to
 install Debian on his fresh box, but failed and there was no clue given
 what to do next.  I do not want to blame the installer for failing where it
 has no chance to success but we could try to give at least some information
 how to proceed now.  I admit I have not read the installation manual and
 perhaps some information is given there.  But even then my suggestion
 above should be turned into: Please read installation manual topic
 Trouble shooting (or whatever).
 
 Kind regards
 
   Andreas.


Your wish is now again in the bug tracking system.


Cheers
Geert Stappers


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Bug#394744: Package: installation-reports

2006-10-22 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 22-10-2006 om 21:46 schreef Andreas Tille:
 snip/
 The consequence is IMHO that we should give some advise for people like me
 that are beaten by hardware that is not supported by vanilla kernel.

 [1]

 I'm completely lost with this machine and hope for a slight hint what to do 
 next
 because all Google entries for compiling the driver point to some SuSE 
 sites and
 it seems to work for these guys but not for me, because the make process
 stops like this:
 
 # make modules
 snip/
 make[2]: *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
 
 I followed some other hints to copy the contents of the tar file
 directly into the
 kernel tree but failed as well.
 
 Any hint that would help here?


AFAIK is the package module-assistant made for such things.
This is it's (long) description:

Description: tool to make module package creation easier
 The module-assistant tool helps users and maintainers with managing
 external kernel modules packaged for Debian. It can do:
 .
  - automated preparation of build environment for modules compilation
(eg. automatical detection and installation of required kernel
source/headers)
  - automated module source downloads
  - configuring and keeping track of external and localy built modules
packages
  - semi-automated multiple builds for multiple kernel versions
 .
 It also contains some framework to be used by the build-scripts in the
 accompanying modules-source packages in Debian.



HtH
GSt

 [1] Ask it in the computer shop or in the next computer shop.
 The largest profit for support in the kernel is for the
 hardware manufactors.


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Bug#394744: Package: installation-reports

2006-10-22 Thread Andreas Tille

Package: installation-reports

Boot method: CD
Image version: 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso
  from Oct 17, 2006
Date: Oct 20, 2006

Machine: PC (assembled at local dealer)
Processor: AMD Sempron AM2 3000+ 256kB (FSB 1600 MHz)
Memory: 1024MB DDR2-533 CL4
Partitions: two partitions of the wrong OS (sorry my son buyed it ;-)) and
   /, /usr, /var, /home for Linux

Output of lspci and lspci -n:

lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT3351 Host Bridge
00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT3351 Host Bridge
00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT3351 Host Bridge
00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT3351 Host Bridge
00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT3351 Host Bridge
00:00.5 PIC: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT3351 I/O APIC Interrupt Controller
00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT3351 Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. [K8T890 North / VT8237
South] PCI Bridge
00:02.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller
00:03.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller
00:03.1 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller
00:03.2 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller
00:03.3 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller
00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A SATA 2-Port
Controller (rev 80)
00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 07)
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1
Controller (rev a0)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1
Controller (rev a0)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1
Controller (rev a0)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1
Controller (rev a0)
00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A PCI to ISA Bridge
00:11.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8251 Ultra VLINK Controller
00:13.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A Host Bridge
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
02:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio
Controller (rev 10)
05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
06:00.0 IDE interface: JMicron Technologies, Inc. JMicron 20360/20363
AHCI Controller (rev 02)
07:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71c6
07:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71e6

lspci -n
00:00.0 0600: 1106:0351
00:00.1 0600: 1106:1351
00:00.2 0600: 1106:2351
00:00.3 0600: 1106:3351
00:00.4 0600: 1106:4351
00:00.5 0800: 1106:5351
00:00.7 0600: 1106:7351
00:01.0 0604: 1106:b999
00:02.0 0604: 1106:a238
00:03.0 0604: 1106:c238
00:03.1 0604: 1106:d238
00:03.2 0604: 1106:e238
00:03.3 0604: 1106:f238
00:0f.0 0101: 1106:0591 (rev 80)
00:0f.1 0101: 1106:0571 (rev 07)
00:10.0 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev a0)
00:10.1 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev a0)
00:10.2 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev a0)
00:10.3 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev a0)
00:10.4 0c03: 1106:3104 (rev 86)
00:11.0 0601: 1106:3337
00:11.7 0600: 1106:287e
00:13.0 0604: 1106:337b
00:18.0 0600: 1022:1100
00:18.1 0600: 1022:1101
00:18.2 0600: 1022:1102
00:18.3 0600: 1022:1103
02:01.0 0403: 1106:3288 (rev 10)
05:00.0 0200: 10ec:8168 (rev 01)
06:00.0 0101: 197b:2363 (rev 02)
07:00.0 0300: 1002:71c6
07:00.1 0380: 1002:71e6

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [E]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]

Comments/Problems:
Well, the kernel does not contain the driver for
05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
   Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device 8168
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
   I/O ports at c800 [size=256]
   Memory at fe9ff000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
   Expansion ROM at fe9c [disabled] [size=128K]
   Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
   Capabilities: [48] Vital Product Data
   Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled 

Bug#394744: Package: installation-reports

2006-10-22 Thread Andreas Tille

2006/10/22, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

I'm going to have to close this installation report as a successful
install because AFAICT the installer did everything right. If a device
is not supported in the kernel, there is very little we can do.


Sure.  My intention was to announce a success so far as you can do.
The additional hint I wanted to give is that there should be some easily
detectable information for newbies if something like that happens.

I would think the following would be helpful (for instance in the case of
a not detected NIC):

  Your computer contains a network card `output of lspci | grep Ethernet`
  This is card seems not to be supported by the current installation kernel
  of Debian GNU/Linux.  (Don't know whether this is a reasonable guess
  because there might be other types of failure.)

  You might try to ask your favourite Search Engine to browse the internet
  for Debian Linux `string from above` or ask debian-user for further help.

The problem is that I wanted to demonstrate a newbie how easy it is to
install Debian on his fresh box, but failed and there was no clue given
what to do next.  I do not want to blame the installer for failing where it
has no chance to success but we could try to give at least some information
how to proceed now.  I admit I have not read the installation manual and
perhaps some information is given there.  But even then my suggestion
above should be turned into: Please read installation manual topic
Trouble shooting (or whatever).

Kind regards

  Andreas.

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