Bug#405631: xtel: missing dependency on xfonts-utils
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 03:34:42AM +0100, Stegozor wrote: Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 04:19:15AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: Package: xtel Version: 3.3.0-5.4 Severity: serious This should rather be removed entirely: - Last maintainer upload in 2003 Indeed, I tried to contact the maintainer a few months ago because there's a problem under Ubuntu (xinetd and xteld issues, relatively easy to fix a bug has been filed on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xtel/+bug/57303/) but I never got a reply (and no error message either). Sorry for the lack of support of this package. I'm really too busy for months at work. I tried to add xinetd support into xtel few months ago but didn't have time to test it before an upload. - 2 voting popcon users (most definitely NMUers/QA people only) - Minitel has ceased commercial operation according to Wikipedia end of 2006: Yes, but this is an error, I'll have to correct it in Wikipedia. The international access from http://www.minitelfr.com has ceased for individuals, but in France, the Minitel network has still around 5 millions of Terminals and as much of emulators and it is still working. Let alone these commercial services, there are still home run BBS-like services, as an example see http://eureka.rxl1.com , where Xtel is explicitly mentioned as a client for an access *via Internet*. So, IMHO, Xtel shouldn't be removed any time soon. At worst, contact its author at http://www.emulateur-xtel.org ... For current activity of Minitel, you may also have a look at http://www.minitel.com . Well, wrt the large number of DSL/cable connections in France and the availability of almost all Minitel services over Internet, I don't think minitel is still actively used. But if you can help me to update the package, you're welcome. Especially, if you can test xtel along with xinetd, I could send my last work to you (not before the next week however). Best regards. -- Eric Delaunay | Le travail est trop sérieux pour le confier [EMAIL PROTECTED] | à ceux qui veulent se tuer avec.Jissey. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#405631: xtel: missing dependency on xfonts-utils
Eric wrote: On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 03:34:42AM +0100, Stegozor wrote: Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 04:19:15AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: Package: xtel Version: 3.3.0-5.4 Severity: serious Sorry for the lack of support of this package. I'm really too busy for months at work. I tried to add xinetd support into xtel few months ago but didn't have time to test it before an upload. Oh... I see why I suffered so much with Xtel, then ;) Well, wrt the large number of DSL/cable connections in France and the availability of almost all Minitel services over Internet, I don't think minitel is still actively used. Although its use is clearly declining for the reasons you described, Minitel is still actively used. For the latest statistics, see http://www.leskiosques.com . For instance, in 2005, more than ten million hours of connection have been registered. But if you can help me to update the package, you're welcome. I'd gladly do my best, but be warned: I'm a newbie. I switched to GNU/Linux only three months ago. Especially, if you can test xtel along with xinetd, I could send my last work to you (not before the next week however). OK, feel free to send it but with as much explanations as possible ;) Note that you may find the bug report for Ubuntu interesting since it concerns the use of Xtel with xinetd instead of inetd and provides a fix from Julien Gilles. Please see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xtel/+bug/57303/ . For the whole discussion (5 messages, in French) that resulted in this bug report http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.french/10922/focus=10922 is worth a look IMHO. This fix, once xinetd is installed, works fine; I tested it. One final remark: your maintainer account for the Xtel package for Ubuntu awaits your claim at https://launchpad.net/~delaunay . I know that Ubuntu is not Debian, but just in case you'd consider activating it, as Ubuntu uses .deb packages... Best regards. All the same, and happy new year (with more free time ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#405631: xtel: missing dependency on xfonts-utils
Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 04:19:15AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: Package: xtel Version: 3.3.0-5.4 Severity: serious This should rather be removed entirely: - Last maintainer upload in 2003 Indeed, I tried to contact the maintainer a few months ago because there's a problem under Ubuntu (xinetd and xteld issues, relatively easy to fix a bug has been filed on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xtel/+bug/57303/) but I never got a reply (and no error message either). - 2 voting popcon users (most definitely NMUers/QA people only) - Minitel has ceased commercial operation according to Wikipedia end of 2006: Yes, but this is an error, I'll have to correct it in Wikipedia. The international access from http://www.minitelfr.com has ceased for individuals, but in France, the Minitel network has still around 5 millions of Terminals and as much of emulators and it is still working. Let alone these commercial services, there are still home run BBS-like services, as an example see http://eureka.rxl1.com , where Xtel is explicitly mentioned as a client for an access *via Internet*. So, IMHO, Xtel shouldn't be removed any time soon. At worst, contact its author at http://www.emulateur-xtel.org ... For current activity of Minitel, you may also have a look at http://www.minitel.com . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#405631: xtel: missing dependency on xfonts-utils
On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 04:19:15AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: Package: xtel Version: 3.3.0-5.4 Severity: serious This should rather be removed entirely: - Last maintainer upload in 2003 - 2 voting popcon users (most definitely NMUers/QA people only) - Minitel has ceased commercial operation according to Wikipedia end of 2006: | The Minitel service ended on [46]December 31, [47]2006. It was replaced | by [48]Le Compte Achats, for companies only. The cutoff for new Minitel | registrations was May 31^st, 2006. ([49][1]) the Minitel network still | works well with more than 6000 services available. Only the web portal | was closed :-) Cheers, Moritz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#405631: xtel: missing dependency on xfonts-utils
Package: xtel Version: 3.3.0-5.4 Severity: serious Hi, xtel uses dh_installxfonts without using the ${misc:Depends} substvar, so it's missing a dependency on xfonts-utils. This means that upgrades from sarge can fail, because the postinst uses update-fonts-dir --x11r7-layout, which doesn't exist in sarge. Also, the sarge update-fonts-dir only looks for fonts in /usr/lib/X11/fonts, while fonts are now installed in /usr/share/fonts/X11. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature