Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems
Hi Joey, Joey Hess [2007-01-12 16:40 -0500]: Ok, but post-etch I would prefer it if there were a static package name I could put in the task instead of myself tracking minor version numbers embedded in package names. OK, no problem. I can just keep the 'postgresql' binary package and have it depend on the recent postgresql version. Martin -- Martin Pitthttp://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer http://www.ubuntu.com Debian Developer http://www.debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 04:36:25PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Final notes: - I selected Database Server in the tasksel and got postgres-7.4. Version 8.1 will be in etch. It's not clear to me which one is intended to be the production version of postgres. The task currently simply pulls in the package named postgresql, which currently pulls in 7.4. If postgres's maintainer would like it to do something different, he can let me know, or change what postgresql depends on .. I'm pretty sure the postgresql package points at postgresql-7.4 not because it's the preferred version, but because there's no automated upgrade path from 7.4 to 8.1 (and can't be so long as they're parallel installable), and postgresql was the real name of the 7.4 server package shipped in etch. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems
Hi, Steve Langasek [2007-01-12 2:41 -0800]: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 04:36:25PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Final notes: - I selected Database Server in the tasksel and got postgres-7.4. Version 8.1 will be in etch. It's not clear to me which one is intended to be the production version of postgres. The task currently simply pulls in the package named postgresql, which currently pulls in 7.4. If postgres's maintainer would like it to do something different, he can let me know, or change what postgresql depends on .. Indeed the task should depend on postgresql-8.1, since this will be the prefered version of PostgreSQL for new Etch installs. I'm pretty sure the postgresql package points at postgresql-7.4 not because it's the preferred version, but because there's no automated upgrade path from 7.4 to 8.1 (and can't be so long as they're parallel installable), and postgresql was the real name of the 7.4 server package shipped in etch. Sarge Right, this has to stay as it is for a clean upgrade. The transitional 'postgresql' source/binary page will be dropped immediately after Etch is released, so Lenny will only ship with postgresql-X.Y (and probably some Provides:). Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitthttp://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer http://www.ubuntu.com Debian Developer http://www.debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 11:18:40PM +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 04:36:25PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: The issue with X should be solved now, in the latest daily builds of the installer. OK, I'll try it out and see if it works better. FWIW, I tried that latest weekly snapshot and it didn't install any X related packages at all... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout kleptog@svana.org http://svana.org/kleptog/ From each according to his ability. To each according to his ability to litigate. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 11:18:40PM +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 04:36:25PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: The issue with X should be solved now, in the latest daily builds of the installer. OK, I'll try it out and see if it works better. FWIW, I tried that latest weekly snapshot and it didn't install any X related packages at all... Yes, as I said, it's fixed in the daily builds. The weekly builds have not rebuilt with the fix yet. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems
On Friday 12 January 2007 19:53, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 11:18:40PM +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 04:36:25PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: The issue with X should be solved now, in the latest daily builds of the installer. OK, I'll try it out and see if it works better. FWIW, I tried that latest weekly snapshot and it didn't install any X related packages at all... That could be correct. It looks like there still are issues. Please keep an eye on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Today if you are interested. Thanks for retrying. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems
Martin Pitt wrote: Indeed the task should depend on postgresql-8.1, since this will be the prefered version of PostgreSQL for new Etch installs. Ok, but post-etch I would prefer it if there were a static package name I could put in the task instead of myself tracking minor version numbers embedded in package names. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems
Quoting Martijn van Oosterhout (kleptog@svana.org): OK, I'll try it out and see if it works better. FWIW, I tried that latest weekly snapshot and it didn't install any X related packages at all... Weekly snapshots are *not* the daily builds. T ochek the issue out, you should indeed use one of the daily built images you'll find from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer It may even be possible that you have to try installing *unstable* instead of *testing* to check that the issue has been solved or not. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems
Just a few followup notes: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 04:35:41PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: - This was a network install and it took a while to download packages. There was no indication of download speed so I did wonder whether there was a problem with the mirror or not. No idea. Mirror is of course a factor in download speed, but seldom the limiting one. I think I was aiming at either some indication of download speed, or some indication of the total data to be downloaded. Either would have told me that half an hour of downloading was normal. However, after the reboot the X configuration was totally broken. Going so far as to complain that the kbd and mouse modules were missing. And indeed, the only installed xserver packages were: This is a known issue that is already solved in unstable and soon will be for installs of Etch. Cool. So it's not worth testing the latest image yet? I've got the machine to play with for a few days. Final notes: - I selected Database Server in the tasksel and got postgres-7.4. Version 8.1 will be in etch. - I don't remember being asked about timezone/clock settings, but that may be my bad memory. - Also had some difficulty with the keyboard selection. In retrospect selecting a US keyboard was the right thing, but it was confusing at the time. Though I think I remember some discussion about making it easier (asking the user to type @;:\ and using that to narrow down the possible types). Other than that it went pretty good. Keep up the good work. Have a ncie day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout kleptog@svana.org http://svana.org/kleptog/ From each according to his ability. To each according to his ability to litigate. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: I think I was aiming at either some indication of download speed, or some indication of the total data to be downloaded. Either would have told me that half an hour of downloading was normal. Download speed is reported for the main portion of the install. Example: Retrieving file 11 of 22 (45s remaining) The initial debootstrap doesn't have download speed reported, but then, it's only a few dozen megabytes download. Cool. So it's not worth testing the latest image yet? I've got the machine to play with for a few days. The issue with X should be solved now, in the latest daily builds of the installer. Final notes: - I selected Database Server in the tasksel and got postgres-7.4. Version 8.1 will be in etch. It's not clear to me which one is intended to be the production version of postgres. The task currently simply pulls in the package named postgresql, which currently pulls in 7.4. If postgres's maintainer would like it to do something different, he can let me know, or change what postgresql depends on .. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 04:36:25PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: I think I was aiming at either some indication of download speed, or some indication of the total data to be downloaded. Either would have told me that half an hour of downloading was normal. Download speed is reported for the main portion of the install. Example: Retrieving file 11 of 22 (45s remaining) Ok, but that doesn't tell me if it's one megabyte of data downloading at 10K/s, or one gigabyte downloading at 10M/s. The difference is ofcourse marginal and not terribly important. It's just something I wondered. Cool. So it's not worth testing the latest image yet? I've got the machine to play with for a few days. The issue with X should be solved now, in the latest daily builds of the installer. OK, I'll try it out and see if it works better. Final notes: - I selected Database Server in the tasksel and got postgres-7.4. Version 8.1 will be in etch. It's not clear to me which one is intended to be the production version of postgres. The task currently simply pulls in the package named postgresql, which currently pulls in 7.4. If postgres's maintainer would like it to do something different, he can let me know, or change what postgresql depends on .. Hmm, postgresql is a transistional package which depends on version 7.4. I'm not sure if it's sensible to change that, given it may break people's machine. But indeed it's the maintainers call. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout kleptog@svana.org http://svana.org/kleptog/ From each according to his ability. To each according to his ability to litigate. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems
The initial debootstrap doesn't have download speed reported, but then, it's only a few dozen megabytes download. thats a pretty long wait for a dialup, isdn bri or very low end broadband user.
Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems
peter green wrote: The initial debootstrap doesn't have download speed reported, but then, it's only a few dozen megabytes download. thats a pretty long wait for a dialup, isdn bri or very low end broadband user. I know, I developed d-i for several years on dialup. :-) I'd love to get time estimates, but it's a matter of adding such estimates to debootstrap, which uses only very limited tools (ie, wget). -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
