Bug#408227: auctex does not compile with actual emacs-snapshot-gtk

2007-01-26 Thread David Kastrup 
Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Davide G. M. Salvetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Considering AUCTeX upstream wishes, I'm for the second: I don't think
 there's much to gain by splitting the packages[*], so I think we should
 just promote the Recommends to Depends.

 I agree.

 Wheter we should add versioned Depends on preview-latex-style, I need to
 ponder the question.  Frank, if you already pondered it (as it looks
 like to me), please add some more rationale to your points.

 Well, actually I assume that we do not really need
 =$SourceVersion, but just some (= $version).  But this means that
 we have to closely follow upstream's changelog: Is there any change
 to preview.sty that requires the versioned dependency to be bumped?
 On the other hand, if we use $SourceVersion, we're on the safe side
 - and preview-latex-style is a tiny package, so I don't really see a
 downside of forcing its upgrade.

Changes to preview.sty should be upwards-compatible.  In order to
facilitate updating preview-latex-style without requiring an update of
AUCTeX, I think =$SourceVersion would be quite safe.
=$someversion would require manual maintenance, of course.
preview-latex contains the variable

preview-default-preamble is a variable defined in 
`/usr/share/emacs-snapshot/site-lisp/auctex/preview.elc'.
Its value is 
(\\RequirePackage[
 (, . preview-default-option-list)
 ]{preview}[2004/11/05])


Documentation:
*Specifies default preamble code to add to a LaTeX document.
If the document does not itself load the preview package, that is,
when you use preview on a document not configured for preview, this
list of LaTeX commands is inserted just before \begin{document}.

You can customize this variable.

[back]

This is supposed to specify the required = version information.
However, I think it is not a sensible idea to let preview-latex-style
fall back behind the version of auctex by default: people updating
auctex will expect to get the whole bundle (and all fixes) with a
current version.  So = $SourceVersion seems like a better idea than
= $bareminimum.

An alternative is to compile the auctex package with a
--without-texmf-dir configure setting in which case the
preview-latex-style package would be independent of auctex, since
auctex would then use its own private version.

-- 
David Kastrup

Bug#408227: auctex does not compile with actual emacs-snapshot-gtk

2007-01-25 Thread Frank Küster 
severity 408227 important
thanks

Thomas Renard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am 24.1.2007 schrieb Davide G. M. Salvetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

The content (or lack thereof) of

   /usr/share/emacs-snapshot/site-lisp/auctex/CompilationLog*


 got it: latex is missing on my machine. Hm, does auctex need a dependency
 for tetex?
 After installing tetex-bin auctex compiles fine.

Hm, the dependencies of auctex are a bit weird wrt a TeX system.  We
have:

Depends: debconf | debconf-2.0, debianutils (= 1.7), emacs21 | emacs-snapshot, 
gs-gpl | gs, make, preview-latex-style
Recommends: tetex-base | texlive-latex-recommended, doc-base
Suggests: catdvi, dvipng, lacheck

So it does *not* depend on a TeX system.   However, 

$ apt-cache show preview-latex-style
Depends: tetex-bin | texlive-base

Are you using those packages on a mixed stable/unstable system?  In
stable, preview-latex-style has no depends at all (I guess it was
preview-latex which pulled in the needed things).

So the solution to this would be to either

- make the Depends on preview-latex-style versioned, or

- increase the relation to TeX from Recommends to Depends.


And actually I believe we should do both.  

- The safest thing to do WRT preview-latex-style would be to Depend
  (=$SourceVersion) (forgot the proper syntax).  This will ensure that
  we don't get problems in the lenny release cycle because some newer
  auctex version expects new functionality in the style file for
  displaying properly.

  I don't think this is RC for etch, since the versions in etch match,
  anyway, and everybody's expected to do a full dist-upgrade before
  complaining about packages not working - and installation will go
  smoothly. 

- If it's auctex proper which needs /usr/bin/latex, then it should have
  the Depends itself.  tetex-base is wrong, though, it should be
  tetex-bin.  

  Whether this is a problem for etch I do not know, but I doubt it.  The
  question is: Is there a significant number of users who have installed
  preview-latex in sarge as an Emacs extension just to look at it, but
  without having teTeX installed?  

  These people might run into the same bug.  We should check this: It
  might be that this way, emacs is trying to be configured before
  tetex-bin works (e.g. because libkpathsea is not configured).  This
  would make a RC bug in etch.

Regards, Frank
-- 
Dr. Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)

Bug#408227: auctex does not compile with actual emacs-snapshot-gtk

2007-01-25 Thread Davide G. M. Salvetti 
  fant == Frank Küster [2007-1-25]

fant The question is: Is there a significant number of users who have
fant installed preview-latex in sarge as an Emacs extension just to
fant look at it, but without having teTeX installed?

The original rationale for Recommends rather than Depends was that
AUCTeX is useful to edit TeX files even if you have no TeX on the system
(due to space constraints, or whatever else).

However, since preview-LaTeX inclusion things have changed:
preview-LaTeX is not useful unless you have LaTeX installed.

As I see it, either we split preview-LaTeX from AUCTeX, or we add a
dependency on (the package providing) LaTeX the binary to the auctex
package.

Considering AUCTeX upstream wishes, I'm for the second: I don't think
there's much to gain by splitting the packages[*], so I think we should
just promote the Recommends to Depends.

[*] On the contrary, splitting preview-latex-style is useful from a
practical point of view, because of Lyx.

Wheter we should add versioned Depends on preview-latex-style, I need to
ponder the question.  Frank, if you already pondered it (as it looks
like to me), please add some more rationale to your points.

-- 
Thanks, Davide

Bug#408227: auctex does not compile with actual emacs-snapshot-gtk

2007-01-25 Thread Frank Küster 
Davide G. M. Salvetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Considering AUCTeX upstream wishes, I'm for the second: I don't think
 there's much to gain by splitting the packages[*], so I think we should
 just promote the Recommends to Depends.

I agree.

 Wheter we should add versioned Depends on preview-latex-style, I need to
 ponder the question.  Frank, if you already pondered it (as it looks
 like to me), please add some more rationale to your points.

Well, actually I assume that we do not really need =$SourceVersion,
but just some (= $version).  But this means that we have to closely
follow upstream's changelog: Is there any change to preview.sty that
requires the versioned dependency to be bumped?  On the other hand, if
we use $SourceVersion, we're on the safe side - and preview-latex-style
is a tiny package, so I don't really see a downside of forcing its
upgrade. 

Regards, Frank
-- 
Dr. Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)

Bug#408227: auctex does not compile with actual emacs-snapshot-gtk

2007-01-24 Thread Thomas Renard 
Package: auctex
Version: 11.83-4
Severity: normal

When updating emacs-snapshot-gtk to 20070122-1 the compilation fails
when the auctex package is compiled.

/tmp/emacs-snapshot. output:

install/auctex: Setting up for emacs-snapshot... emacs-install:
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/auctex emacs-snapshot emacs21
failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 28, TSORT line
39.

I deinstalled auctex and reinstalled emacs-snapshot-gtk and the
compilation of emacs-snapshot-gtk worked without problems.

Then I installed auctex again and the installation ended up with:

install/auctex: Setting up for emacs-snapshot... emacs-package-install:
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/auctex emacs-snapshot
emacs-snapshot emacs21 failed at
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-package-install line 30, TSORT line 1.
dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von auctex (--configure):


i  emacs-snapshot 20070122-1 The GNU Emacs editor (with GTK+ 2.x
support)
-- Package-specific info:

Content of '/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/'

a01bf9fd3d73621b98d0464203315f9d  /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/aclocal.m4
c515b501a8d5009537edfb0348d3f14e  /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/auctex.el
e23e60e9de6051db5156aecaaaea11e7  /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/auctex.el.in
70edfb6456295f3a85f539d6154a27f1  /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/bib-cite.el
ac421dfa908cb4b4ca10225f5f392642  /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/ChangeLog
b61e5af0aa5b8d6f5d5516edd9069e49  /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/confdefs.h
0fdfbce360262ba1e7418cfb16122fbd  /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/config.log
730f6a92c4c082004e4f28bd135a08b3  
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/config.status
221b209b70c601cdf4f51d5a88b3e19d  /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/configure
8cd4b9e2d5a60d887e9a7ef2071c522c  /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/configure.ac
5006452b1a7118be03053d7b6658b8cb  /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/context.el
b8e6439d05bcb7f5b471e18fd4531806  
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/context-en.el
f6993976f1541119a029722ff4ae5e59  
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/context-nl.el
2b11f4f8c3a4189bf7cc8fec5a51e8c0  /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/doc/Makefile
2b11f4f8c3a4189bf7cc8fec5a51e8c0  
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/doc/Makefile.in
f219971ef3cebc73ca1dbf21b18fc2a2  
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/font-latex.el
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/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/images/amstex.xpm
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/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/images/bibtex.xpm
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/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/images/dropdown.xpm
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/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/images/dvipdf.xpm
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/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/images/dvips.xpm
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/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/images/error.xpm
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/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/images/execviewpdf.xpm
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/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/images/prvtex16.xpm

Bug#408227: auctex does not compile with actual emacs-snapshot-gtk

2007-01-24 Thread Romain Francoise 
Hi,

Thomas Renard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 /tmp/emacs-snapshot. output:

 install/auctex: Setting up for emacs-snapshot... emacs-install:
 /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/auctex emacs-snapshot emacs21
 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 28, TSORT line
 39.

Could you please send us the whole log file?  The message quoted
above just says that it failed, it doesn't say why.

Thanks,

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Bug#408227: auctex does not compile with actual emacs-snapshot-gtk

2007-01-24 Thread Thomas Renard 

Could you please send us the whole log file?  The message quoted
above just says that it failed, it doesn't say why.


O course, sorry (I lost the old one so I reinstalled emacs again - but it
has the same output).

Thomas


emacs-snapshot.L12595
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Bug#408227: auctex does not compile with actual emacs-snapshot-gtk

2007-01-24 Thread Frank Küster 
Thomas Renard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --RWP_PART_baer1169644315
 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=emacs-snapshot.L12595
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=emacs-snapshot.L12595



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There's nothing in it...

Regards, Frank
-- 
Dr. Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)

Bug#408227: auctex does not compile with actual emacs-snapshot-gtk

2007-01-24 Thread Frank Küster 
Thomas Renard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I deinstalled auctex and reinstalled emacs-snapshot-gtk and the
 compilation of emacs-snapshot-gtk worked without problems.

 Then I installed auctex again and the installation ended up with:

 install/auctex: Setting up for emacs-snapshot... emacs-package-install:
 /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/auctex emacs-snapshot
 emacs-snapshot emacs21 failed at
 /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-package-install line 30, TSORT line 1.
 dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von auctex (--configure):

I could not reproduce this in a sid pbuilder chroot.

Regards, Frank
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Dr. Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)

Bug#408227: auctex does not compile with actual emacs-snapshot-gtk

2007-01-24 Thread Davide G. M. Salvetti 
The content (or lack thereof) of

   /usr/share/emacs-snapshot/site-lisp/auctex/CompilationLog*

would be particularly useful.

Note (to myself and people working on this bug): the Emacs byte
compilation log file should have been collected automatically by
reportbug (it seems reportbug or equivalent has been used to report the
bug), but it has not.  This might already be a clue to spot the bug, if
any.

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Bug#408227: auctex does not compile with actual emacs-snapshot-gtk

2007-01-24 Thread Romain Francoise 
Davide G. M. Salvetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 /usr/share/emacs-snapshot/site-lisp/auctex/CompilationLog*

Side note: could you please change auctex's install script so that
it mentions this file name on the console if compilation fails?
I think it's important for users to know where to look in case
they're not familiar with auctex's packaging scripts.

(This would also allow you to encourage the user to attach this file
to the report if necessary.)

Thanks,

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Bug#408227: auctex does not compile with actual emacs-snapshot-gtk

2007-01-24 Thread Davide G. M. Salvetti 
  RF == Romain Francoise [2007-1-24]

RF Side note: could you please change auctex's install script so that
RF it mentions this file name on the console if compilation fails?

Yes, that's a good idea, let us note it here (so that I will remember to
try and add it).

RF I think it's important for users to know where to look in case
RF they're not familiar with auctex's packaging scripts.

However, auctex has a reportbug script, which attach that file (along
with a mess of other things) to bug reports.  OTH, not everyone use
reportbug compatible ways of reporting bugs.

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Bug#408227: auctex does not compile with actual emacs-snapshot-gtk

2007-01-24 Thread Thomas Renard 
Am 24.1.2007 schrieb Davide G. M. Salvetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

The content (or lack thereof) of

   /usr/share/emacs-snapshot/site-lisp/auctex/CompilationLog*


got it: latex is missing on my machine. Hm, does auctex need a dependency
for tetex?
After installing tetex-bin auctex compiles fine.


CompilationLog
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