Bug#408482: French Canadians really using us keyboard layout?
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 10:31:47AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Philippe Cloutier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): If I understand what Daniel wrote right, according to you French Canadian keyboards are nearly impossible to buy in Montreal? I'm surprised. A Canadian friend of mine bought me a french Canadian keyboard and mailed it to me. He reports that he just walked in a major electronics store and there it was. This is actually something that is very strange for me, given that it's nearly impossible to a normally constituted person to input correct French on a US keyboard. In my opinion, you are over-inflating it. I do it every day; all you need is one key configured as compose key (Multi_key in x.org parlance). Both the Linux console and X support that concept. I can imagine that a handicapped person would be challenged to type û, because it requires three keys at the same time (compose-shift-6), but then sticky keys would address that (in X), I presume. Oh, and I just discovered that typing compose and shift-6 in sequence instead of together also works. So trouble gone, only max two keys at the same time, which is needed *all* the time when using a keyboard. So, even more, for a normally constituted person, what's the trouble? It might cut down a bit on your wpm (words per minute), that is true. -- Lionel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#408482: French Canadians really using us keyboard layout?
I can imagine that a handicapped person would be challenged to type û, because it requires three keys at the same time (compose-shift-6), but then sticky keys would address that (in X), I presume. Oh, and I just discovered that typing compose and shift-6 in sequence instead of together also works. So trouble gone, only max two keys at the same time, which is needed *all* the time when using a keyboard. So, even more, for a normally constituted person, what's the trouble? It might cut down a bit on your wpm (words per minute), that is true. Definitely, yes. The occurences of a few accented characters in French are high enough for them to require single keystrokes to enter éèçàù characters and not funky compose key combinations which are only used by hard-core geeks (the normal user will just skip the accents in such case and, therefore, will make a mess with our language). signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#408482: French Canadians really using us keyboard layout?
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 02:08:52PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: It might cut down a bit on your wpm (words per minute), that is true. Definitely, yes. The occurences of a few accented characters in French are high enough for them to require single keystrokes to enter éèçàù characters and not funky compose key combinations which are only used by hard-core geeks (the normal user will just skip the accents in such case and, therefore, will make a mess with our language). According to this criteria, neither the France-French nor the Canadian-French nor the Belgium-French keyboard are good: - the Canadian-French keyboard requires two keystrokes for èçàù and ÈÇÀÙ; it has a single-keystroke only for éÉ. - the France-French keyboard requires funky compose key combinations for ÉÈÇÀÙ; it has singly keystrokes only for lower case accented letters and no dead accenting key. - the Belgian-French keyboard requires two keystrokes for ÉÈÀÙ; it has single keystrokes only for lower case accented letters, but features dead accenting keys (as an AltGr combination if I remember well). I'm not sure about Ç anymore. You might be thinking of the Canadian Multilingual Standard keyboard, but this one is indeed (so I've heard) difficult to find in Montreal. (This is probably getting off-topic for this bug; we should probably continue by private mail if at all.) -- Lionel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#408482: French Canadians really using us keyboard layout?
Quoting Philippe Cloutier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Thanks Daniel. Jeff, as I mentioned the code is currently ineffective, and as you seem to understand the issue, maybe you should request that the code be fixed while reexplaining the rationale for it. If I understand what Daniel wrote right, according to you French Canadian keyboards are nearly impossible to buy in Montreal? This is actually something that is very strange for me, given that it's nearly impossible to a normally constituted person to input correct French on a US keyboard. So, I'm really surprised to hear about the impossibility to find decent keyboards in the French-speaking part of Canada:) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#408482: French Canadians really using us keyboard layout?
Thanks Daniel. Jeff, as I mentioned the code is currently ineffective, and as you seem to understand the issue, maybe you should request that the code be fixed while reexplaining the rationale for it. If I understand what Daniel wrote right, according to you French Canadian keyboards are nearly impossible to buy in Montreal? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
