Bug#422347: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#422347: Bug#422347: can't get ntpq without ntpd
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 08:44:55PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Josip Rodin wrote: I don't find your lack of understanding of my original report relevant, then? What part of not having excess daemons by default don't you understand? The part I asked you about: Why don't you disable that the ntpd daemon starts? Surely you don't mind that the binary is installed. So just arrange that it is not started at boot. I don't like that, because it requires extra intervention, where no such intervention was necessary in oldstable, and it really should not be necessary, because it's really a BCP to separate server and client software in different packages. Obviously the case for separation is stronger for obvious applications such as DNS clients and servers, SMTP clients and servers, HTTP clients and servers, ... but I see no reason why to switch to a different model for NTP clients and servers. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#422347: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#422347: Bug#422347: can't get ntpq without ntpd
Am Mittwoch, 23. April 2008 schrieb Josip Rodin: Why don't you just turn off the starting of ntpd? Because of the reasons stated in the original report. Sorry, I don't find a relevant reason in the original report. I understand you only want to use the client tools, but I don't see why you couldn't just turn off the server then. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#422347: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#422347: Bug#422347: can't get ntpq without ntpd
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:58:37AM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Mittwoch, 23. April 2008 schrieb Josip Rodin: Why don't you just turn off the starting of ntpd? Because of the reasons stated in the original report. Sorry, I don't find a relevant reason in the original report. I understand you only want to use the client tools, but I don't see why you couldn't just turn off the server then. I don't find your lack of understanding of my original report relevant, then? What part of not having excess daemons by default don't you understand? -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#422347: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#422347: Bug#422347: can't get ntpq without ntpd
Josip Rodin wrote: I don't find your lack of understanding of my original report relevant, then? What part of not having excess daemons by default don't you understand? The part I asked you about: Why don't you disable that the ntpd daemon starts? Surely you don't mind that the binary is installed. So just arrange that it is not started at boot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#422347: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#422347: Bug#422347: can't get ntpq without ntpd
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 05:00:12PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Donnerstag, 3. April 2008 schrieb Josip Rodin: Er, ntpdc isn't the NTP server, it's a query program for the separate server program called ntpd. It's customary to refer to these as clients. But regardless, I really don't care much about the exact package name, just about the restoration of old functionality. Why don't you just turn off the starting of ntpd? Because of the reasons stated in the original report. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#422347: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#422347: Bug#422347: can't get ntpq without ntpd
Am Donnerstag, 3. April 2008 schrieb Josip Rodin: Er, ntpdc isn't the NTP server, it's a query program for the separate server program called ntpd. It's customary to refer to these as clients. But regardless, I really don't care much about the exact package name, just about the restoration of old functionality. Why don't you just turn off the starting of ntpd? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
