Bug#428784: opustex: wrong dependencies for etch
Frank Küster a écrit : severity 428784 important Elie Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: opustex Version: 0.84-5.1 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable opustex depends on tetex-bin and tetex-extra, but texlive is used since etch. First of all, etch has both teTeX and TeXlive, so there is no problem in stable. In unstable, teTeX has dissappeared, and the tetex-* packages are only transitional packages for at users. They are not meant for other packages to depend on, and they do not guarantee any defined functionality in the technical (Depends:) sense. Therefore there is actually a bug in opustex, but I think it's only important. Elie, which problems did you encounter which would make the package unusable? I have a default etch installation, and aptitude refuses to install opustex, as I have not the tetex packages it depends on... Why is the old version still used instead of the latest (which is very old too)? Does the licence allow to patch OpusTeX? No, it is nonfree and may not be changed - what was your intention? Someone has given me some patches to improve OpusTeX a lot... but I don't think they can be used... Maybe we should discuss whether OpusTeX should better be dropped from Debian: - it claims to be a beta version and has not seen any upstream development in the last nine years. And the developer does not answer mails, and doesn't want to make his work free... - there are other macro packages to typeset music with TeX available in Debian (musictex and musixtex in texlive-music) as well as frontends which are able to use TeX (lilypond). You're right, but OpusTeX is mostly used to typeset gregorian chant, fot which it is really the best macro package, even if it has a lot of defaults. - there are more macro packages to typeset music with TeX which are not yet available in Debian, but will probably be included in future versions of texlive (at least those which are free). I'm building my own gregorian chant TeX package (for Omega in fact...), but it is not finished yet (http://home.gna.org/gregorio/), I hope it will be finished in september. - it is nonfree - according to popcon, it has 26 installations which gives it rank 20849, which is already in the area where about 50% of the packages are not in sid, i.e. obsolete, and it has 8 votes (i.e. 8 users who participate in popcon have actually used it) - Anthony hasn't been very active as a maintainer I think OpusTeX should not be dropped now from Debian, it would be better to wait for another gregorian chant typesetting system (Lilypond and MusiXTeX are really bad for gregorian chant). Regards, -- Elie
Bug#428784: opustex: wrong dependencies for etch
Elie Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elie, which problems did you encounter which would make the package unusable? I have a default etch installation, and aptitude refuses to install opustex, as I have not the tetex packages it depends on... You mean because you have texlive installed? Well, that's a problem in etch, you can use opustex only with one of the two TeX systems. But that's not a grave bug, even if it is very annoying. - there are other macro packages to typeset music with TeX available in Debian (musictex and musixtex in texlive-music) as well as frontends which are able to use TeX (lilypond). You're right, but OpusTeX is mostly used to typeset gregorian chant, fot which it is really the best macro package, even if it has a lot of defaults. Aha, I didn't know that. I think OpusTeX should not be dropped now from Debian, it would be better to wait for another gregorian chant typesetting system (Lilypond and MusiXTeX are really bad for gregorian chant). Okay, fine with me. Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)
Bug#428784: opustex: wrong dependencies for etch
severity 428784 important Elie Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: opustex Version: 0.84-5.1 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable opustex depends on tetex-bin and tetex-extra, but texlive is used since etch. First of all, etch has both teTeX and TeXlive, so there is no problem in stable. In unstable, teTeX has dissappeared, and the tetex-* packages are only transitional packages for at users. They are not meant for other packages to depend on, and they do not guarantee any defined functionality in the technical (Depends:) sense. Therefore there is actually a bug in opustex, but I think it's only important. Elie, which problems did you encounter which would make the package unusable? Why is the old version still used instead of the latest (which is very old too)? Does the licence allow to patch OpusTeX? No, it is nonfree and may not be changed - what was your intention? Maybe we should discuss whether OpusTeX should better be dropped from Debian: - it claims to be a beta version and has not seen any upstream development in the last nine years. - there are other macro packages to typeset music with TeX available in Debian (musictex and musixtex in texlive-music) as well as frontends which are able to use TeX (lilypond). - there are more macro packages to typeset music with TeX which are not yet available in Debian, but will probably be included in future versions of texlive (at least those which are free). - it is nonfree - according to popcon, it has 26 installations which gives it rank 20849, which is already in the area where about 50% of the packages are not in sid, i.e. obsolete, and it has 8 votes (i.e. 8 users who participate in popcon have actually used it) - Anthony hasn't been very active as a maintainer Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)
Bug#428784: opustex: wrong dependencies for etch
Package: opustex Version: 0.84-5.1 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable opustex depends on tetex-bin and tetex-extra, but texlive is used since etch. Why is the old version still used instead of the latest (which is very old too)? Does the licence allow to patch OpusTeX? -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.21.1test Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages opustex depends on: ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii tetex-base 3.0.dfsg.3-5 Basic TeX input files of teTeX ii tetex-bin 3.0-30 The teTeX programs opustex recommends no packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
