Bug#430896: general: GNOME or KDE desktops should issue a warning when the user unplugs USB media without unmounting.

2007-06-29 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven, 2007-06-29 at 10:49 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
 Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
  On jeu, 2007-06-28 at 06:24 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
  I'm not sure if XFCE in Debian already uses
  gnome-mount, though.
  
  No, and we don't really want to depends on gnome stuff, especially
  looking at the huge dependencies list of gnome-mount. We already use
  exo-mount, which doesn't yet provide this functionality, afaik.
 
 Hi Yves-Alexis,
 
 the long list of GNOME dependencies is because of the nautilus plugin.

[snip]

 Would that be acceptable for you XFce guys? If you'd consider to use 
 gnome-mount
 in that case I would prepare a updated version of gnome-mount.
 
Thanks but it's not really need as we have no plan to switch from
exo-mount to gnome-mount :)

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Bug#430896: general: GNOME or KDE desktops should issue a warning when the user unplugs USB media without unmounting.

2007-06-29 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu, 2007-06-28 at 06:24 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
 I'm not sure if XFCE in Debian already uses
 gnome-mount, though.

No, and we don't really want to depends on gnome stuff, especially
looking at the huge dependencies list of gnome-mount. We already use
exo-mount, which doesn't yet provide this functionality, afaik.
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Bug#430896: general: GNOME or KDE desktops should issue a warning when the user unplugs USB media without unmounting.

2007-06-29 Thread Michael Biebl
Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
 On jeu, 2007-06-28 at 06:24 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
 I'm not sure if XFCE in Debian already uses
 gnome-mount, though.
 
 No, and we don't really want to depends on gnome stuff, especially
 looking at the huge dependencies list of gnome-mount. We already use
 exo-mount, which doesn't yet provide this functionality, afaik.

Hi Yves-Alexis,

the long list of GNOME dependencies is because of the nautilus plugin.

I could either split out the nautilus plugin into a seperate package or exclude
the nautilus plugin from dh_shlibdeps. As nautilus automatically provides the
necessary dependencies, the latter would be an acceptable and cheap solution
(and it's the one taken by our Ubuntu fellows).

It would trim down the dependency list to:

libc6 (= 2.5-5), libdbus-1-3 (= 1.1.1), libdbus-glib-1-2 (= 0.73),
libgconf2-4 (= 2.13.5), libglib2.0-0 (= 2.12.9), libgnome-keyring0 (= 0.8),
libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.10.12-3), libhal-storage1 (= 0.5.9), libhal1 (= 0.5.9),
libnotify1 (= 0.4.4), libnotify1-gtk2.10, gconf2 (= 2.10.1-2), hal, eject

Would that be acceptable for you XFce guys? If you'd consider to use gnome-mount
in that case I would prepare a updated version of gnome-mount.

Cheers,
Michael

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Bug#430896: general: GNOME or KDE desktops should issue a warning when the user unplugs USB media without unmounting.

2007-06-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 29 June 2007 10:49, Michael Biebl wrote:
 Would that be acceptable for you XFce guys? If you'd consider to use
 gnome-mount in that case I would prepare a updated version of
 gnome-mount.

Personally I would not want anything that depends on gconf on a non-GNOME 
system, but that's just my opinion.


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Bug#430896: general: GNOME or KDE desktops should issue a warning when the user unplugs USB media without unmounting.

2007-06-29 Thread Simon Huggins
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 10:49:29AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
 Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
  On jeu, 2007-06-28 at 06:24 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
  I'm not sure if XFCE in Debian already uses
  gnome-mount, though.
  No, and we don't really want to depends on gnome stuff, especially
  looking at the huge dependencies list of gnome-mount. We already use
  exo-mount, which doesn't yet provide this functionality, afaik.
 the long list of GNOME dependencies is because of the nautilus plugin.

 Would that be acceptable for you XFce guys? If you'd consider to use
 gnome-mount in that case I would prepare a updated version of
 gnome-mount.

It's not a case of us trying to change this for Debian; you'd have to
get upstream to change this which I suspect isn't going to happen.  I
can't really see much benefit to it.  There's no upstream support in exo
for gnome-mount currently.

This may change when gnome-mount gets updated for the
policykit/consolekit hal stuff but we'll see how upstream react to that
at the time.

The unsafe unmounting is done by hal anyway and whilst you may end up
with some sort of corruption if you're very unlucky about when you pull
the cable out, most of the time you'll just end up with files not
deleted or no noticeable difference (except the annoying message of
course ;)).

Simon.

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Bug#430896: general: GNOME or KDE desktops should issue a warning when the user unplugs USB media without unmounting.

2007-06-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 10:49:29AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
 Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
  On jeu, 2007-06-28 at 06:24 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
  I'm not sure if XFCE in Debian already uses
  gnome-mount, though.

  No, and we don't really want to depends on gnome stuff, especially
  looking at the huge dependencies list of gnome-mount. We already use
  exo-mount, which doesn't yet provide this functionality, afaik.

 Hi Yves-Alexis,

 the long list of GNOME dependencies is because of the nautilus plugin.

 I could either split out the nautilus plugin into a seperate package or 
 exclude
 the nautilus plugin from dh_shlibdeps. As nautilus automatically provides the
 necessary dependencies, the latter would be an acceptable and cheap solution
 (and it's the one taken by our Ubuntu fellows).

Please note that skipping the nautilus plugin in dh_shlibdeps opens the
possibility that your nautilus plugin will be built against a different
version of one of these libs than nautilus itself is (like, say... gail or
eel2, both of which are currently going through soname changes in unstable),
and the skew would be unnoticed at the packaging level due to the lack of
dependencies.

I've seen maintainers move these shlibdeps for optional components into
Recommends before.  That still won't be enforced, but it's at least
greppable/parseable and gives the user some feedback at install time (at
least with aptitude) about why the package isn't usable.

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Bug#430896: general: GNOME or KDE desktops should issue a warning when the user unplugs USB media without unmounting.

2007-06-28 Thread Rafael Belmonte

I think KDE should issue a warning too.

2007/6/28, Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Rafael wrote:
 Package: general
 Severity: wishlist



 -- System Information:
 Debian Release: lenny/sid
   APT prefers testing
   APT policy: (500, 'testing')
 Architecture: i386 (i686)

 Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-6-generic (SMP w/1 CPU core)
 Locale: LANG=es_ES.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_ES.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
 Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

 Debian KDE, Gnome or XFCE desktops should issue a warning when the user
unplugs USB media without unmounting it first, as Ubuntu
 does.
 Thanks for your atention.

FWIW recent GNOME desktops in unstable using gnome-mount for doing the
mounting
stuff, already have this kind of functionality. Whenever you unmount a
removable
device, gnome-mount will show you a message via notification-daemon, when
it is
safe to unplug the device. I'm not sure if XFCE in Debian already uses
gnome-mount, though.

Cheers,
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Bug#430896: general: GNOME or KDE desktops should issue a warning when the user unplugs USB media without unmounting.

2007-06-27 Thread Rafael
Package: general
Severity: wishlist



-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-6-generic (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=es_ES.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_ES.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Debian KDE, Gnome or XFCE desktops should issue a warning when the user unplugs 
USB media without unmounting it first, as Ubuntu 
does.
Thanks for your atention. 


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Bug#430896: general: GNOME or KDE desktops should issue a warning when the user unplugs USB media without unmounting.

2007-06-27 Thread Michael Biebl
Rafael wrote:
 Package: general
 Severity: wishlist
 
 
 
 -- System Information:
 Debian Release: lenny/sid
   APT prefers testing
   APT policy: (500, 'testing')
 Architecture: i386 (i686)
 
 Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-6-generic (SMP w/1 CPU core)
 Locale: LANG=es_ES.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_ES.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
 Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
 
 Debian KDE, Gnome or XFCE desktops should issue a warning when the user 
 unplugs USB media without unmounting it first, as Ubuntu 
 does.
 Thanks for your atention. 

FWIW recent GNOME desktops in unstable using gnome-mount for doing the mounting
stuff, already have this kind of functionality. Whenever you unmount a removable
device, gnome-mount will show you a message via notification-daemon, when it is
safe to unplug the device. I'm not sure if XFCE in Debian already uses
gnome-mount, though.

Cheers,
Michael

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Bug#430896: general: GNOME or KDE desktops should issue a warning when the user unplugs USB media without unmounting.

2007-06-27 Thread Andrew Donnellan

On 6/28/07, Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I interpreted it as saying 'Give a warning if someone accidentally
pulls it out before unmounting', not 'Tell me when I can pull it out
after unmounting.'


The original request in the BR I mean; not the message from gnome-mount.

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Bug#430896: general: GNOME or KDE desktops should issue a warning when the user unplugs USB media without unmounting.

2007-06-27 Thread Andrew Donnellan

On 6/28/07, Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

FWIW recent GNOME desktops in unstable using gnome-mount for doing the mounting
stuff, already have this kind of functionality. Whenever you unmount a removable
device, gnome-mount will show you a message via notification-daemon, when it is
safe to unplug the device. I'm not sure if XFCE in Debian already uses
gnome-mount, though.


I interpreted it as saying 'Give a warning if someone accidentally
pulls it out before unmounting', not 'Tell me when I can pull it out
after unmounting.'

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Bug#430896: general: GNOME or KDE desktops should issue a warning when the user unplugs USB media without unmounting.

2007-06-27 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 14:54 +1000, Andrew Donnellan wrote:
 On 6/28/07, Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  FWIW recent GNOME desktops in unstable using gnome-mount for doing the 
  mounting
  stuff, already have this kind of functionality. Whenever you unmount a 
  removable
  device, gnome-mount will show you a message via notification-daemon, when 
  it is
  safe to unplug the device. I'm not sure if XFCE in Debian already uses
  gnome-mount, though.
 
 I interpreted it as saying 'Give a warning if someone accidentally
 pulls it out before unmounting', not 'Tell me when I can pull it out
 after unmounting.'

It should do both if its recieved the patch from Ubuntu (and given it
shows when its unsafe, I think it has - both were done at the same time
IIRC).

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