Bug#433211: Unsafe storage device unmounting

2008-08-31 Thread Cesare Leonardi

Cesare Leonardi wrote:

In May i've sent the following mail to debian-gtk-gnome to signal this
problem but since nothing happened so far, i file a bug:

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Since some days i've noted (updated Debian Sid) that when i right-click
on a usb stick icon and select Unmount volume, the icon disappear
immediately but the unmount progress window doesn't appear and the
device is still mounted for some seconds.
So the problem exposed in bug #367836 is reappeared and to be sure to
not corrupt anything i have to poll the device in a terminal window
using mount to wait it to disappear.

Is the window that shows the unmounting progress lost somewhere?
-


Any news on this bug? Don't you think that it should be resolved in time 
for Lenny?
Many times i've observed that the cache sync to the usb pen drive 
happens *after* the disk icon has disappeared from Gnome desktop, in 
particular with FAT32 filesystem (seems that cache flush are much more 
fast on FAT16).


For safety now i use to:
- unmount the disk right-clicking on it;
- go to the terminal and issue a mount command to watch the situation: 
most of the time (99%) the disk is yet mounted;

- issue a sync command (with FAT32 can take some second);
- re-issue mount: most of the time the drive in not mounted anymore;
- unplug the pen drive.

Since the problem was solved with Etch using a patch from Ubuntu, i 
suppose that such patch doesn't apply anymore.
But, to me, this bug deserve some attention, since it could cause data 
loss (and probably who will suffer of it will tend to think of a kernel 
bug rather than a gnome bug).


Regards.

Cesare.



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Bug#433211: Unsafe storage device unmounting

2008-08-31 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 13:51 +0200, Cesare Leonardi wrote:
 Cesare Leonardi wrote:
  In May i've sent the following mail to debian-gtk-gnome to signal this
  problem but since nothing happened so far, i file a bug:
  
  -
  Since some days i've noted (updated Debian Sid) that when i right-click
  on a usb stick icon and select Unmount volume, the icon disappear
  immediately but the unmount progress window doesn't appear and the
  device is still mounted for some seconds.

Have you disabled dbus notifications? The point at which the icon
disappears is not the point at which the drive is safe to remove. DBus
normally raises a notification window Data is being written to the
device followed by Device is now safe to remove.

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Bug#433211: Unsafe storage device unmounting

2008-08-31 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 11:57 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
  
  Have you disabled dbus notifications? The point at which the icon
  disappears is not the point at which the drive is safe to remove. DBus
  normally raises a notification window Data is being written to the
  device followed by Device is now safe to remove.
 
 How does one check whether dbus notification is enabled?

Checking that dbus itself is working - whether the wastebasket shows as
full after deleting a file in nautilus, 'ps waux | grep dbus', 'dpkg -l
notification-daemon', whether other applications like Rhythmbox are able
to show notifications when configured to do so.

The original bug report #433211 does not include the usual list of
dependencies and versions so basic things like this cannot be checked,
possibly because the bug was filed direct from t'bird instead of using a
bug reporting tool.

Cesare, please use reportbug to generate the usual list of dependencies
for the program you think is responsible for this bug then send that
list to the bug report. Thanks.



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Bug#433211: Unsafe storage device unmounting

2008-08-31 Thread Cesare Leonardi

Neil Williams wrote:

Have you disabled dbus notifications? The point at which the icon
disappears is not the point at which the drive is safe to remove. DBus
normally raises a notification window Data is being written to the
device followed by Device is now safe to remove.


Mmh, i feel you are near to the problem even if...
No, i've not disabled dbus notification neither i've ever tweaked it.
Moreover notification-daemon is installed, i can see notification 
messages from other apps like Rhythmbox and the trashcan icon change 
depending on its full/empty status.


From my first mail to debian-gtk-gnome (May 2007), i have never seen 
any notification after clicking on Unmount volume.
I use unstable since 2005: maybe there are some conffile that was not 
updated correctly, in particular when the progress bar taken from Ubuntu 
was removed.
By the way, good to know how a good working Gnome environment should 
behave.  :-)


As you asked in another mail, i append the information collected by 
reportbug gnome (quoted to avoid Thunderbird to wrap lines):

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-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-1-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages gnome depends on:
ii  arj3.10.22-6 archiver for .arj files
ii  avahi-daemon   0.6.23-2  Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD daemon
ii  bluez-gnome0.27-1Bluetooth utilities for GNOME
ii  epiphany-extensions2.22.2-1  Extensions for Epiphany web browse
ii  evolution-exchange 2.22.3.dfsg-1 Exchange plugin for the Evolution 
ii  evolution-plugins  2.22.3.1-1standard plugins for Evolution
ii  evolution-webcal   2.21.92-1 webcal: URL handler for GNOME and 
ii  gdm-themes 0.6   Themes for the GNOME Display Manag

ii  gnome-app-install  0.5.5.1-1 GNOME Application Installer
ii  gnome-desktop-environment  1:2.22.2~4The GNOME Desktop Environment
ii  gnome-games1:2.22.3-2games for the GNOME desktop
ii  gnome-spell1.0.7-1   GNOME/Bonobo component for spell c
ii  gnome-themes-extras0.9.0.deb0.4  various themes for the GNOME 2 des
ii  gnome-vfs-obexftp  0.4-1 GNOME VFS module for OBEX FTP
ii  gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg   0.10.4-3  FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly 0.10.8-1  GStreamer plugins from the ugly 
ii  libpam-gnome-keyring   2.22.3-1  PAM module to unlock the GNOME key

ii  p7zip  4.58~dfsg.1-1 7zr file archiver with high compre
ii  rhythmbox  0.11.6-1  music player and organizer for GNO
ii  serpentine 0.9-5 An application for creating audio 
ii  swfdec-mozilla 0.6.0-4   Mozilla plugin for SWF files (Macr

ii  synaptic   0.62.1Graphical package manager
ii  system-config-printer  1.0.0-2   graphical interface to configure t
ii  totem-mozilla  2.22.2-3  Totem Mozilla plugin
ii  transmission-gtk   1.33-1free, lightweight BitTorrent clien

Versions of packages gnome recommends:
pn  empathy | pidgin  none (no description available)
pn  gdebi none (no description available)
ii  gnome-games-extra-data2.22.0-1   games for the GNOME desktop (extra
ii  gnome-office  1:2.22.2~4 The GNOME Office suite
ii  gparted   0.3.8-1+b1 GNOME partition editor
ii  gthumb3:2.10.8-1 an image viewer and browser
ii  hal-cups-utils0.6.16-2   Utilities to detect and configure 
ii  hardinfo  0.4.2.3-5  Displays system information

pn  liferea | blamnone (no description available)
ii  menu-xdg  0.3freedesktop.org menu compliant win
pn  network-manager-gnome none (no description available)
ii  tomboy0.10.2-1   desktop note taking program using 
ii  tsclient  0.150-1front-end for viewing of remote de

pn  update-notifier   none (no description available)

Versions of packages gnome suggests:
pn  gnome-dbg none (no description available)
pn  openoffice.org-evolution  none (no description available)
ii  openoffice.org-gnome  1:2.4.1-8  GNOME Integration for OpenOffice.o

-- no debconf information

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Many thanks for your help.
Regards.

Cesare.



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Bug#433211: Unsafe storage device unmounting

2007-07-15 Thread Cesare Leonardi

Package: gnome-volume-manager
Version: 2.17.0-2

In May i've sent the following mail to debian-gtk-gnome to signal this
problem but since nothing happened so far, i file a bug:

-
Since some days i've noted (updated Debian Sid) that when i right-click
on a usb stick icon and select Unmount volume, the icon disappear
immediately but the unmount progress window doesn't appear and the
device is still mounted for some seconds.
So the problem exposed in bug #367836 is reappeared and to be sure to
not corrupt anything i have to poll the device in a terminal window
using mount to wait it to disappear.

Is the window that shows the unmounting progress lost somewhere?
-

Regards.

Cesare.



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