Bug#433211: Unsafe storage device unmounting
Cesare Leonardi wrote: In May i've sent the following mail to debian-gtk-gnome to signal this problem but since nothing happened so far, i file a bug: - Since some days i've noted (updated Debian Sid) that when i right-click on a usb stick icon and select Unmount volume, the icon disappear immediately but the unmount progress window doesn't appear and the device is still mounted for some seconds. So the problem exposed in bug #367836 is reappeared and to be sure to not corrupt anything i have to poll the device in a terminal window using mount to wait it to disappear. Is the window that shows the unmounting progress lost somewhere? - Any news on this bug? Don't you think that it should be resolved in time for Lenny? Many times i've observed that the cache sync to the usb pen drive happens *after* the disk icon has disappeared from Gnome desktop, in particular with FAT32 filesystem (seems that cache flush are much more fast on FAT16). For safety now i use to: - unmount the disk right-clicking on it; - go to the terminal and issue a mount command to watch the situation: most of the time (99%) the disk is yet mounted; - issue a sync command (with FAT32 can take some second); - re-issue mount: most of the time the drive in not mounted anymore; - unplug the pen drive. Since the problem was solved with Etch using a patch from Ubuntu, i suppose that such patch doesn't apply anymore. But, to me, this bug deserve some attention, since it could cause data loss (and probably who will suffer of it will tend to think of a kernel bug rather than a gnome bug). Regards. Cesare. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#433211: Unsafe storage device unmounting
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 13:51 +0200, Cesare Leonardi wrote: Cesare Leonardi wrote: In May i've sent the following mail to debian-gtk-gnome to signal this problem but since nothing happened so far, i file a bug: - Since some days i've noted (updated Debian Sid) that when i right-click on a usb stick icon and select Unmount volume, the icon disappear immediately but the unmount progress window doesn't appear and the device is still mounted for some seconds. Have you disabled dbus notifications? The point at which the icon disappears is not the point at which the drive is safe to remove. DBus normally raises a notification window Data is being written to the device followed by Device is now safe to remove. -- Neil Williams = http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#433211: Unsafe storage device unmounting
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 11:57 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Have you disabled dbus notifications? The point at which the icon disappears is not the point at which the drive is safe to remove. DBus normally raises a notification window Data is being written to the device followed by Device is now safe to remove. How does one check whether dbus notification is enabled? Checking that dbus itself is working - whether the wastebasket shows as full after deleting a file in nautilus, 'ps waux | grep dbus', 'dpkg -l notification-daemon', whether other applications like Rhythmbox are able to show notifications when configured to do so. The original bug report #433211 does not include the usual list of dependencies and versions so basic things like this cannot be checked, possibly because the bug was filed direct from t'bird instead of using a bug reporting tool. Cesare, please use reportbug to generate the usual list of dependencies for the program you think is responsible for this bug then send that list to the bug report. Thanks. -- Neil Williams = http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#433211: Unsafe storage device unmounting
Neil Williams wrote: Have you disabled dbus notifications? The point at which the icon disappears is not the point at which the drive is safe to remove. DBus normally raises a notification window Data is being written to the device followed by Device is now safe to remove. Mmh, i feel you are near to the problem even if... No, i've not disabled dbus notification neither i've ever tweaked it. Moreover notification-daemon is installed, i can see notification messages from other apps like Rhythmbox and the trashcan icon change depending on its full/empty status. From my first mail to debian-gtk-gnome (May 2007), i have never seen any notification after clicking on Unmount volume. I use unstable since 2005: maybe there are some conffile that was not updated correctly, in particular when the progress bar taken from Ubuntu was removed. By the way, good to know how a good working Gnome environment should behave. :-) As you asked in another mail, i append the information collected by reportbug gnome (quoted to avoid Thunderbird to wrap lines): --- -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-1-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core) Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages gnome depends on: ii arj3.10.22-6 archiver for .arj files ii avahi-daemon 0.6.23-2 Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD daemon ii bluez-gnome0.27-1Bluetooth utilities for GNOME ii epiphany-extensions2.22.2-1 Extensions for Epiphany web browse ii evolution-exchange 2.22.3.dfsg-1 Exchange plugin for the Evolution ii evolution-plugins 2.22.3.1-1standard plugins for Evolution ii evolution-webcal 2.21.92-1 webcal: URL handler for GNOME and ii gdm-themes 0.6 Themes for the GNOME Display Manag ii gnome-app-install 0.5.5.1-1 GNOME Application Installer ii gnome-desktop-environment 1:2.22.2~4The GNOME Desktop Environment ii gnome-games1:2.22.3-2games for the GNOME desktop ii gnome-spell1.0.7-1 GNOME/Bonobo component for spell c ii gnome-themes-extras0.9.0.deb0.4 various themes for the GNOME 2 des ii gnome-vfs-obexftp 0.4-1 GNOME VFS module for OBEX FTP ii gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg 0.10.4-3 FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer ii gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly 0.10.8-1 GStreamer plugins from the ugly ii libpam-gnome-keyring 2.22.3-1 PAM module to unlock the GNOME key ii p7zip 4.58~dfsg.1-1 7zr file archiver with high compre ii rhythmbox 0.11.6-1 music player and organizer for GNO ii serpentine 0.9-5 An application for creating audio ii swfdec-mozilla 0.6.0-4 Mozilla plugin for SWF files (Macr ii synaptic 0.62.1Graphical package manager ii system-config-printer 1.0.0-2 graphical interface to configure t ii totem-mozilla 2.22.2-3 Totem Mozilla plugin ii transmission-gtk 1.33-1free, lightweight BitTorrent clien Versions of packages gnome recommends: pn empathy | pidgin none (no description available) pn gdebi none (no description available) ii gnome-games-extra-data2.22.0-1 games for the GNOME desktop (extra ii gnome-office 1:2.22.2~4 The GNOME Office suite ii gparted 0.3.8-1+b1 GNOME partition editor ii gthumb3:2.10.8-1 an image viewer and browser ii hal-cups-utils0.6.16-2 Utilities to detect and configure ii hardinfo 0.4.2.3-5 Displays system information pn liferea | blamnone (no description available) ii menu-xdg 0.3freedesktop.org menu compliant win pn network-manager-gnome none (no description available) ii tomboy0.10.2-1 desktop note taking program using ii tsclient 0.150-1front-end for viewing of remote de pn update-notifier none (no description available) Versions of packages gnome suggests: pn gnome-dbg none (no description available) pn openoffice.org-evolution none (no description available) ii openoffice.org-gnome 1:2.4.1-8 GNOME Integration for OpenOffice.o -- no debconf information --- Many thanks for your help. Regards. Cesare. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#433211: Unsafe storage device unmounting
Package: gnome-volume-manager Version: 2.17.0-2 In May i've sent the following mail to debian-gtk-gnome to signal this problem but since nothing happened so far, i file a bug: - Since some days i've noted (updated Debian Sid) that when i right-click on a usb stick icon and select Unmount volume, the icon disappear immediately but the unmount progress window doesn't appear and the device is still mounted for some seconds. So the problem exposed in bug #367836 is reappeared and to be sure to not corrupt anything i have to poll the device in a terminal window using mount to wait it to disappear. Is the window that shows the unmounting progress lost somewhere? - Regards. Cesare. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]