Bug#433329: Please clarify whether Lucida Bright/Lucida Sans fonts are supported
tags 433329 + fixed-upstream stop On 27.11.07 Karl Berry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, tmmath, hvmath? Should we do the same there? Indeed. I've removed tmmath and hvmath from TL. Thanks. Tagging as fixed in upstream in our BTS. Thanks, Hilmar -- sigmentation fault -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#433329: Please clarify whether Lucida Bright/Lucida Sans fonts are supported
Hi Karl I am coming back to old old emails... On Mo, 27 Aug 2007, Karl Berry wrote: Yes - this should probably be fixed by including CTAN://fonts/psfonts/bh/lucida/doc/fonts/lucida/readme.lucida: I fixed it by removing all of the Lucida support files from TL instead. Unlike some of the others, they are separate on CTAN and part of psnfssx rather than psnfss, so it was feasible to do that. What about the other things in psnfssx: tmmath, hvmath? Should we do the same there? Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- BOLSOVER One of those brown plastic trays with bumps on, placed upside down in boxes of chocolates to make you think you're-getting two layers. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#433329: Please clarify whether Lucida Bright/Lucida Sans fonts are supported
tmmath, hvmath? Should we do the same there? Indeed. I've removed tmmath and hvmath from TL. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#433329: Please clarify whether Lucida Bright/Lucida Sans fonts are supported
Yes - this should probably be fixed by including CTAN://fonts/psfonts/bh/lucida/doc/fonts/lucida/readme.lucida: I fixed it by removing all of the Lucida support files from TL instead. Unlike some of the others, they are separate on CTAN and part of psnfssx rather than psnfss, so it was feasible to do that. Best, Karl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#433329: [tex-live] Bug#433329: Please clarify whether Lucida Bright/Lucida Sans fonts are supported
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Berry) wrote: Wouldn't it be the case for having the support files for non-free fonts As far as I know, the Lucida metrics are not included in TeX Live 2007. Frank or anyone, if there's an issue for TL here, please explain. The metrics are not included, but the LaTeX style and fd files and some documentation is there, in collection-fontsrecommended (as part of psnfssx). Maybe this could be moved to collection-fontsextra, since the fonts themselves are not included. Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)
Bug#433329: [tex-live] Bug#433329: Bug#433329: Please clarify whether Lucida Bright/Lucida Sans fonts are supported
documentation is there, in collection-fontsrecommended (as part of psnfssx). Oh yeah. The place to fix this is psnfssx; I'd prefer to have the Lucida styles/docs removed too, but it doesn't make sense for TL to do something different than CTAN here. I haven't yet written the maintainers (not even sure who they are -- Walter Schmidt maybe). Maybe this could be moved to collection-fontsextra, since the fonts themselves are not included. Sadly, I see no rational way to split up psnfssx. Thanks, karl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#433329: [tex-live] Bug#433329: Please clarify whether Lucida Bright/Lucida Sans fonts are supported
Wouldn't it be the case for having the support files for non-free fonts As far as I know, the Lucida metrics are not included in TeX Live 2007. Frank or anyone, if there's an issue for TL here, please explain. Karl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#433329: Please clarify whether Lucida Bright/Lucida Sans fonts are supported
On Jul 16 2007, Frank Küster wrote: Richard Atterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: texlive-fonts-recommended contains the following files related to Lucida Bright fonts: [...] Yes - this should probably be fixed by including CTAN://fonts/psfonts/bh/lucida/doc/fonts/lucida/readme.lucida: (...) Like some other support files for non-free fonts, they are present in order to allow those who have bought these fonts to easily use them with TeX. Wouldn't it be the case for having the support files for non-free fonts to be in contrib here? If I learned it correctly, I think that is the purpose of the contrib section. Is that right? Regards, Rogério Brito. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED],ime.usp}.br : GPG key 1024D/7C2CAEB8 http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito : http://meusite.mackenzie.com.br/rbrito Projects: algorithms.berlios.de : lame.sf.net : vrms.alioth.debian.org
Bug#433329: Please clarify whether Lucida Bright/Lucida Sans fonts are supported
[Dropping the TL upstream list] Rogério Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't it be the case for having the support files for non-free fonts to be in contrib here? If I learned it correctly, I think that is the purpose of the contrib section. Is that right? Quite correct. But if the contrib data is too small, it doesn't make sense to create a whole new package for it. It would make sense if the package they are currently part of would *as a whole* *only* be usable with non-free stuff, but I don't think this is the case here. -- Florent
Bug#433329: Please clarify whether Lucida Bright/Lucida Sans fonts are supported
Package: texlive-fonts-recommended Version: 2007-10 Severity: minor Hello, texlive-fonts-recommended contains the following files related to Lucida Bright fonts: /usr/share/doc/texlive-fonts-recommended/latex/psnfssx/lucidabr.txt.gz /usr/share/doc/texlive-fonts-recommended/latex/psnfssx/lucfont.tex /usr/share/doc/texlive-fonts-recommended/latex/psnfssx/lucfont.dvi.gz /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/psnfssx/lucidbrb.sty /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/psnfssx/lucmin.sty /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/psnfssx/lucidbry.sty /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/psnfssx/luctime.sty /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/psnfssx/lucbmath.sty /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/psnfssx/lucmtime.sty /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/psnfssx/lucidabr.sty /usr/share/doc/texlive-doc/latex/psnfssx/lucidabr.txt.gz /usr/share/doc/texlive-doc/latex/psnfssx/lucfont.tex /usr/share/doc/texlive-doc/latex/psnfssx/lucfont.dvi.gz All this suggests that it is possible to use Lucida Bright under Debian. However, I get errors trying to use the font (e.g. typesetting lucfont.tex above). After googling for hours, I am still scratching my head - could it be that the font is non-free and thus not supported? After all, there's no trace of any hls* file in any of the TeX packages. Then why are these files present?? I suggest to document that it is not possible to use the fonts under Debian, preferably both in README.Debian and in /usr/share/doc/texlive-fonts-recommended/latex/psnfssx/lucidabr.txt.gz Alternatively, the above files could be removed from the package ...unless there is an easy way to install the non-free fonts - can they be downloaded somewhere? Cheers, Richard ## List of ls-R files -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 916 2007-07-16 07:49 /var/lib/texmf/ls-R lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 2007-07-02 11:42 /usr/share/texmf/ls-R - /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXMFMAIN lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2007-07-06 16:47 /usr/share/texmf-texlive/ls-R - /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVE lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2007-07-06 16:47 /usr/share/texmf-texlive/ls-R - /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVE ## Config files lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2007-07-02 11:42 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf - /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4396 2007-07-06 16:54 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6619 2007-07-06 16:54 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/updmap.cfg -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4542 2007-07-06 16:54 /var/lib/texmf/tex/generic/config/language.dat ## Files in /etc/texmf/web2c/ total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 283 2006-08-16 17:02 mktex.cnf ## md5sums of texmf.d 25bf3a257a0bedb5c67349c3eaff74af /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf 5f7f6652cc8b8071c9e4ea6ba9e9f0a1 /etc/texmf/texmf.d/15Plain.cnf 8a26468004b5ebc7ae9884740356c1d0 /etc/texmf/texmf.d/45TeXinputs.cnf ea33127256c6a9f37145ae5b16fdb80c /etc/texmf/texmf.d/55Fonts.cnf afccf1d3f87057411166a77c58e00bd1 /etc/texmf/texmf.d/65BibTeX.cnf 9da7c1c7b1eaf06f941af91f48a23068 /etc/texmf/texmf.d/75DviPS.cnf e36faa13563bdb46303b91ab3f6ea638 /etc/texmf/texmf.d/85Misc.cnf 7e8f87acdeba48edac16d851c77b9e75 /etc/texmf/texmf.d/90TeXDoc.cnf 30f4f13357c2761ed01a6a15f28725a5 /etc/texmf/texmf.d/95NonPath.cnf 0b5483ae6af6c33480de5d1f628ffe83 /etc/texmf/texmf.d/96JadeTeX.cnf -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.20.2 (PREEMPT) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE (charmap=ISO-8859-1) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages texlive-fonts-recommended depends on: ii texlive-base 2007-10TeX Live: Essential programs and f ii texlive-common2007-10TeX Live: Base component Versions of packages texlive-fonts-recommended recommends: ii tipa 2:1.3-8system for processing phonetic sym Versions of packages tex-common depends on: ii debconf 1.5.13 Debian configuration management sy ii ucf 3.001 Update Configuration File: preserv Versions of packages texlive-fonts-recommended is related to: pn tetex-basenone (no description available) pn tetex-bin none (no description available) pn tetex-extra none (no description available) ii tex-common1.9Common infrastructure for using an -- debconf information: tex-common/check_texmf_wrong: tex-common/check_texmf_missing: tex-common/singleuser: false -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#433329: Please clarify whether Lucida Bright/Lucida Sans fonts are supported
Richard Atterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: texlive-fonts-recommended Version: 2007-10 Severity: minor Hello, texlive-fonts-recommended contains the following files related to Lucida Bright fonts: [...] All this suggests that it is possible to use Lucida Bright under Debian. However, I get errors trying to use the font (e.g. typesetting lucfont.tex above). After googling for hours, I am still scratching my head - could it be that the font is non-free and thus not supported? Yes - this should probably be fixed by including CTAN://fonts/psfonts/bh/lucida/doc/fonts/lucida/readme.lucida: , | This distribution contains the TeX fonts metrics, virtual | fonts and LaTeX font definition files for the Lucida | Bright and Lucida New Math fonts. | | This file set does, however, NOT include: | | * the actual Type 1 fonts (*.pfb, *.pfm, *.afm); | | * LaTeX macro packages to support math typesetting. ` After all, there's no trace of any hls* file in any of the TeX packages. Then why are these files present?? Like some other support files for non-free fonts, they are present in order to allow those who have bought these fonts to easily use them with TeX. Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)
