Bug#438537: cron-apt: s/apt-get/aptitude/ in manual page
Hi Martin On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 11:39:31AM +0100, Martin J. Carter wrote: On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 06:07:54PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: Hi Martin On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 05:34:17PM +0100, Martin J. Carter wrote: Package: cron-apt Version: 0.4.14 Severity: minor Please update the manual page for cron-apt, to reflect the change from apt-get to aptitude in etch. I have read through the manual, but I do not understand you in this case. Both apt-get and aptitude are supported in etch, and I still use apt-get mostly, even if I have started to use aptitude more. Apologies for not explaining myself properly. No problem. You have the opportunity now. :) What kind of change do you want? We've started using aptitude here for etch, rather than apt-get, ever since I noticed that etch systems seem to use it during the build process. I noted also that cron-apt uses aptitude by default, but that cron-apt(1) says: I see. However the default is still apt-get. cron-apt is a program that uses the information in /etc/cron- apt/action.d/ as arguments to apt-get line by line in file order. and no mention is made of aptitude. I'd suggest something along the lines of as arguments to the system-update program (aptitude, by default) in the Description section, plus a mention in Configuration that this is one of the options set in /etc/cron-apt/config, but I leave the details of the language to your good self. Do you want aptitude to be default upgrade as well? I rather thought it was :-) , but am willing to be re-educated. Then you are now (hopefully) re-educated. The default is apt-get. However the manual page lacks a lot of things, but that is a separate issue. Do you agree to close the bug? Best regards, // Ola -- Dr Martin J Carter Computer System Administrator Astrophysics, University of Oxford x 73291 -- --- Ola Lundqvist systemkonsult --- M Sc in IT Engineering / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Annebergsslingan 37\ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 654 65 KARLSTAD| | http://opalsys.net/ Mobile: +46 (0)70-332 1551 | \ gpg/f.p.: 7090 A92B 18FE 7994 0C36 4FE4 18A1 B1CF 0FE5 3DD9 / --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#438537: cron-apt: s/apt-get/aptitude/ in manual page
Hi On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 12:34:22PM +0100, Martin J. Carter wrote: ... The default is apt-get. Not on the etch insts I've got here: diffs of /etc/cron-apt/config (datestamped at install time) against config.dpkg-dest show the aptitude lines to have been uncommented, not the apt-get ones. I don't think it was me that did it, certainly not by hand. Strange. No lines should be uncommented there, and the default in that case is apt-get. This is how the configuration file part looks in the sources: # APTCOMMAND=/usr/bin/apt-get # APTCOMMAND=/usr/bin/aptitude # APTCOMMAND=/usr/bin/apt-file And I have at least not implemented a rewrite function. :) Do you agree to close the bug? I'd like to burn a new etch netinst first, and install from that, if you don't mind. I do not mind. :) Best regards, // Ola -- Dr Martin J Carter Computer System Administrator Astrophysics, University of Oxford x 73291 -- --- Ola Lundqvist systemkonsult --- M Sc in IT Engineering / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Annebergsslingan 37\ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 654 65 KARLSTAD| | http://opalsys.net/ Mobile: +46 (0)70-332 1551 | \ gpg/f.p.: 7090 A92B 18FE 7994 0C36 4FE4 18A1 B1CF 0FE5 3DD9 / --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#438537: cron-apt: s/apt-get/aptitude/ in manual page
Martin J. Carter wrote: Please update the manual page for cron-apt, to reflect the change from apt-get to aptitude in etch. In general for Etch aptitude is now the recommended APT frontend tool while apt-get is still fully supported. But aptitude is still young and not as mature as apt-get. For some applications such as cron-apt the apt-get frontend is still a better default fit than the aptitude frontend. There has been no change from apt-get to aptitude in Etch for cron-apt. Since cron-apt uses apt-get by default (which is allowed as apt-get is still fully supported in Etch) the documentation is correct at this time for cron-apt. No change should be made. Use of apt-get here does not create any issues when used in the default configuration since the default simply downloads packages and notifies the user so that they are available and ready for manual installation. If the admin chooses to configure cron-apt to automatically install from a depot (e.g. 'apt-get install -y') then there is still no conflict with aptitude. One of the features of aptitude is marking packages as either manually installed or installed as a dependency. In this case any packages would have been previously installed and the previous status configuration would have applied. There would be no changes and no issues with mixing apt-get and aptitude. The package name list before is the same as the package name list after, only the versions have changed, and aptitude's installation information is unchanged. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#438537: cron-apt: s/apt-get/aptitude/ in manual page
Thanks Bob for the clarification of the situation. Best regards, // Ola On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 12:16:42PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Martin J. Carter wrote: Please update the manual page for cron-apt, to reflect the change from apt-get to aptitude in etch. In general for Etch aptitude is now the recommended APT frontend tool while apt-get is still fully supported. But aptitude is still young and not as mature as apt-get. For some applications such as cron-apt the apt-get frontend is still a better default fit than the aptitude frontend. There has been no change from apt-get to aptitude in Etch for cron-apt. Since cron-apt uses apt-get by default (which is allowed as apt-get is still fully supported in Etch) the documentation is correct at this time for cron-apt. No change should be made. Use of apt-get here does not create any issues when used in the default configuration since the default simply downloads packages and notifies the user so that they are available and ready for manual installation. If the admin chooses to configure cron-apt to automatically install from a depot (e.g. 'apt-get install -y') then there is still no conflict with aptitude. One of the features of aptitude is marking packages as either manually installed or installed as a dependency. In this case any packages would have been previously installed and the previous status configuration would have applied. There would be no changes and no issues with mixing apt-get and aptitude. The package name list before is the same as the package name list after, only the versions have changed, and aptitude's installation information is unchanged. Bob -- - Ola Lundqvist --- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Annebergsslingan 37 \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 654 65 KARLSTAD | | http://opalsys.net/ +46 (0)70-332 1551 | \ gpg/f.p.: 7090 A92B 18FE 7994 0C36 4FE4 18A1 B1CF 0FE5 3DD9 / --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#438537: cron-apt: s/apt-get/aptitude/ in manual page
Hi Martin On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 05:34:17PM +0100, Martin J. Carter wrote: Package: cron-apt Version: 0.4.14 Severity: minor Please update the manual page for cron-apt, to reflect the change from apt-get to aptitude in etch. I have read through the manual, but I do not understand you in this case. Both apt-get and aptitude are supported in etch, and I still use apt-get mostly, even if I have started to use aptitude more. What kind of change do you want? Do you want aptitude to be default upgrade as well? Regards, // Ola -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-5-k7 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) Versions of packages cron-apt depends on: ii apt 0.6.46.4-0.1 Advanced front-end for dpkg ii debianutils 2.17 Miscellaneous utilities specific t Versions of packages cron-apt recommends: ii cron 3.0pl1-100 management of regular background p ii liblockfile1 1.06.1 NFS-safe locking library, includes ii mailx1:8.1.2-0.20050715cvs-1 A simple mail user agent -- no debconf information -- - Ola Lundqvist --- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Annebergsslingan 37 \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 654 65 KARLSTAD | | http://opalsys.net/ +46 (0)70-332 1551 | \ gpg/f.p.: 7090 A92B 18FE 7994 0C36 4FE4 18A1 B1CF 0FE5 3DD9 / --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#438537: cron-apt: s/apt-get/aptitude/ in manual page
Package: cron-apt Version: 0.4.14 Severity: minor Please update the manual page for cron-apt, to reflect the change from apt-get to aptitude in etch. -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-5-k7 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) Versions of packages cron-apt depends on: ii apt 0.6.46.4-0.1 Advanced front-end for dpkg ii debianutils 2.17 Miscellaneous utilities specific t Versions of packages cron-apt recommends: ii cron 3.0pl1-100 management of regular background p ii liblockfile1 1.06.1 NFS-safe locking library, includes ii mailx1:8.1.2-0.20050715cvs-1 A simple mail user agent -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
