Bug#444190: OpenGL screensaver malfunctions from upgrade
3) #Option XAANoOffscreenPixmaps true What is the role of this one? With this option activated, compiz does not work. Weird, it's usually the other way around (well, it should basically work without, but not quite correctly). Now it is like you say. Option XAANoOffscreenPixmaps true activated and compiz works. I do not know why the change. Maybe some important updates in sid recently? (anyway, I just tried compiz *once* when it failed to start). So, if this option is good for compiz and kwin, why is it not the default? Thank you
Bug#444190: OpenGL screensaver malfunctions from upgrade
On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 14:38 +, David wrote: Although it is NOT PERFECT YET: the animation is OK, but, when translucencies are enabled, some elements of the desktop appear and disappear blinking on the screensaver; and, if the screen is locked and you move the mouse to unlock, the login window sometimes blinks (appears and disappears) very fast. Sounds like http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8732 . 1) #Section Extensions #Option Composite enable #EndSection you told me that it is redundant because it is the default, isn't it? 2) #Option AccelMethod XAA you told me that it is redundant because it is the default, isn't it? Correct on both accounts. 3) #Option XAANoOffscreenPixmaps true What is the role of this one? With this option activated, compiz does not work. Weird, it's usually the other way around (well, it should basically work without, but not quite correctly). -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | http://tungstengraphics.com Libre software enthusiast | Debian, X and DRI developer
Bug#444190: OpenGL screensaver malfunctions from upgrade
On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 15:29 +, David wrote: Now it is like you say. Option XAANoOffscreenPixmaps true activated and compiz works. I do not know why the change. Maybe some important updates in sid recently? (anyway, I just tried compiz *once* when it failed to start). So, if this option is good for compiz and kwin, why is it not the default? Because it disables some acceleration paths, which is usually bad without a compositing manager. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | http://tungstengraphics.com Libre software enthusiast | Debian, X and DRI developer
Bug#444190: OpenGL screensaver malfunctions from upgrade
David wrote: The problem was caused by the DEFAULT configuration, and WITHOUT composition effects; and was solved after adding some options to xorg.conf. No, Composite and XAA are supposed to be enabled _by default_, so there's something wrong going on in your setup. We still haven't seen any config and log from the non-working case. So please remove all non-trivial options (EXA, XAA, XAANoOffscreenPixmap, Composite, ..) from your xorg.conf, send the corresponding config and log, and tell us if it works, (with Xserver 1.4 and ATI 6.7.197 or above). Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#444190: OpenGL screensaver malfunctions from upgrade
reopen 444190 thanks No Read it again! :-) The problem was caused by the DEFAULT configuration, and WITHOUT composition effects; and was solved after adding some options to xorg.conf. Reopening the bug... Thank you Looks like this was caused by a non-default configuration and to many composition effects then? I am closing this bug. Brice
Bug#444190: OpenGL screensaver malfunctions from upgrade
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 18:50 +, David wrote: Option AccelMethod XAA This is still the default with the radeon driver. Option XAANoOffscreenPixmaps true [...] * I was allowed to select in KDE the refresh rate of 75 Hz. That's unrelated to any of the options you mentioned above. * Working with KDE was faster in general. This is probably related to Option XAANoOffscreenPixmaps, but that can't be enabled by default because it disables XAA acceleration paths. * The problem this bug is about was fixed. Again very unlikely directly related to any of the options you mentioned, as Euphoria uses OpenGL. Please, answer as well whether taking so long for switching from one desktop to another in KDE with composition enabled is a bug or is normal for this card. It's probably expected if kwin (un)maps windows when doing so. Maybe its settings can be tweaked to mitigate it. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | http://tungstengraphics.com Libre software enthusiast | Debian, X and DRI developer
Bug#444190: OpenGL screensaver malfunctions from upgrade
Do you know this proverb the best way to find something is to look for another thing? :-) Today it happened. I wanted to enable composition, so I added to /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Section Extensions Option Composite enable EndSection and Option AccelMethod XAA Option XAANoOffscreenPixmaps true Compiz did not work, but the KDE translucencies did work. Finally, I deactivated the composition effect in KDE because switching from one desktop to another one was taking at least 5 seconds (is it normal with this old card, or shall I submit another bug?). After deactivating the composition effects, I saw many improvements, though (the days before I was working without composition as well), so I think they just came from the modifications I made to /etc/X11/xorg.conf: * I was allowed to select in KDE the refresh rate of 75 Hz. * Working with KDE was faster in general. * The problem this bug is about was fixed. Note, however, that this bug used not to exist *without enabling composition in /etc/X11/xorg.conf *, so I do not know if the bug can be closed yet. At least, you should configure the package to do these modifications to /etc/X11/xorg.conf before closing the bug. Please, answer as well whether taking so long for switching from one desktop to another in KDE with composition enabled is a bug or is normal for this card. Thank you, On 22/01/2008, Brice Goglin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David wrote: I am afraid I do not see any improvement at all... Thank you. Unless I am mistaken, we haven't seen your config and log yet. Could your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log from 6.7.197? Thanks, Brice
Bug#444190: OpenGL screensaver malfunctions from upgrade
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 18:50:22 +, David wrote: Do you know this proverb the best way to find something is to look for another thing? :-) Today it happened. I wanted to enable composition, so I added to /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Section Extensions Option Composite enable EndSection Composite is enabled by default in xserver 1.4, no need to add it to xorg.conf. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#444190: OpenGL screensaver malfunctions from upgrade
I am afraid I do not see any improvement at all... Thank you. On 22/12/2007, Brice Goglin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 04:00:11PM +, David wrote: Is it OK if I try it when it is in sid? I do not have much time these days... 6.7.197 is in sid now. Brice
Bug#444190: OpenGL screensaver malfunctions from upgrade
David wrote: I am afraid I do not see any improvement at all... Thank you. Unless I am mistaken, we haven't seen your config and log yet. Could your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log from 6.7.197? Thanks, Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#444190: OpenGL screensaver malfunctions from upgrade
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 08:28:10PM +0200, Brice Goglin wrote: David wrote: Package: xserver-xorg-video-ati Version: 1:6.6.193-3 Severity: important --- Please enter the report below this line. --- I have a Radeon 9200 SE, use KDE, and Euphoria as screensaver. From the transition to the new xorg, the screensaver moves discretely, not in a continuous way. Furthermore, when the screen is locked, and I want to unlock it, and the field to enter the password appears, the circles representing the introduced characters are very behind the keyboard. If 6.6.193 is more broken for you than 6.6.3, you should either go back to previous 6.6.3 or try the new 6.7.194. The 6.6.x branch is dead already anyway, all the real work is done in 6.7.x. If you want to stick with xserver 1.4 from unstable, there is a rebuilt 6.6.3 for unstable: http://people.debian.org/~bgoglin/ati-rebuilds/6.6.3-Xserver1.4/ Ping? It is very important here to try 6.7.195 currently in experimental. 6.6.193 won't be fixed. Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#444190: OpenGL screensaver malfunctions from upgrade
Package: xserver-xorg-video-ati Version: 1:6.6.193-3 Severity: important --- Please enter the report below this line. --- I have a Radeon 9200 SE, use KDE, and Euphoria as screensaver. From the transition to the new xorg, the screensaver moves discretely, not in a continuous way. Furthermore, when the screen is locked, and I want to unlock it, and the field to enter the password appears, the circles representing the introduced characters are very behind the keyboard. --- System information. --- Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-2-686 Debian Release: lenny/sid 990 unstable www.debian-multimedia.org 990 unstable ftp.uk.debian.org 500 stable dl.google.com 500 experimental www.debian-multimedia.org 1 experimental ftp.uk.debian.org --- Package information. --- Depends (Version) | Installed ==-+-= libc6 (= 2.6.1-1) | 2.6.1-5 xserver-xorg-core (= 2:1.4) | 2:1.4-2
Bug#444190: OpenGL screensaver malfunctions from upgrade
David wrote: Package: xserver-xorg-video-ati Version: 1:6.6.193-3 Severity: important --- Please enter the report below this line. --- I have a Radeon 9200 SE, use KDE, and Euphoria as screensaver. From the transition to the new xorg, the screensaver moves discretely, not in a continuous way. Furthermore, when the screen is locked, and I want to unlock it, and the field to enter the password appears, the circles representing the introduced characters are very behind the keyboard. If 6.6.193 is more broken for you than 6.6.3, you should either go back to previous 6.6.3 or try the new 6.7.194. The 6.6.x branch is dead already anyway, all the real work is done in 6.7.x. If you want to stick with xserver 1.4 from unstable, there is a rebuilt 6.6.3 for unstable: http://people.debian.org/~bgoglin/ati-rebuilds/6.6.3-Xserver1.4/ Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
