Bug#454498: 2.3.13 now available.

2009-03-03 Thread Duncan Gibb
Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd wrote:

CCT Now for cyrus 2.3.

CCT What's the status

I've created a proposed 2.3.13 branch - see
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-cyrus-imapd-debian-devel/2009-February/002609.html
and replies - and am trying to make time to clean/post/commit other
patches currently in the Sirius repo, starting with the smallest,
best-tested, and already-committed-upstream ones.

CCT and what needs to be done.

Testing.  Feedback.  More testing.  A clean upgrade path from 2.2.


Duncan

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Bug#454498: 2.3.13 now available.

2009-03-02 Thread Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd

 P.S.: I am happy running cyrus-imapd 2.2, so there is no strong push
 to invest time into packaging 2.3 before lenny is out (or arguing on
 this
 list whether somebody agree or disagree). But I am willing to support
 others work.

Lenny is out!  Yaay!!!

Now for cyrus 2.3.

What's the status and what needs to be done.


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Bug#454498: 2.3.13 now available.

2008-12-18 Thread Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd
 Wed, 2008-12-17 at 20:37 +0100, =?UTF-8?Q? Ond=C5=99ej_?=
=?UTF-8?Q?Sur=C3=BD ?= wrote:
  What help would the Debian Cyrus Team most appreciate?
 
 I cannot speak for others, but I see no sense to package cyrus-imapd
 2.3 right now,
 it will not get into next stable, so sensible approach is to wait for
 lenny to release
 and after that move cyrus-imapd-2.3 to unstable, prepare way how to upgrade
 from 2.2 to 2.3 and then remove 2.2 from unstable.
 
I disagree.  It should get into experimental ASAP and start getting some
work done so that by the time lenny releases, we have it ready to move
into unstable, and hopefully testing fairly quickly after that.  We are
talking about a relatively well tested and stable upstream source, so
this should be able to move reasonably quickly in as a replacement for
v2.2

Daniel.




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Bug#454498: 2.3.13 now available.

2008-12-18 Thread Duncan Gibb
Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd wrote:

DG What help would the Debian Cyrus Team most appreciate?

[I deliberately didn't copy my original message to the bug address,
since it was a rather general discussion.  But others have, so browsers
of the bugs database may wish to read
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-cyrus-imapd-debian-devel/2008-December/002585.html
for context.]

OS I see no sense to package cyrus-imapd 2.3 right now, it will
OS not get into next stable, so sensible approach is to wait for
OS lenny to release and after that move cyrus-imapd-2.3 to
OS unstable

CCT I disagree.  It should get into experimental ASAP and start
CCT getting some work done so that by the time lenny releases,
CCT we have it ready to move into unstable

I think both points of view can be accommodated.  We're already
producing, and will continue to maintain, unofficial 2.3 packages for
Etch and for Lenny, but it's unlikely we'll need binaries beyond amd64
and i386.  Of course it's too late even to think about official Lenny,
but maybe backports would carry 2.3 once it's in Sid...

2.3.8 is already in experimental, but incase's cyrus23 SVN branch hasn't
been touched for a year.  I'm guessing from the tiny volume of traffic
on the coordination list, and the quietness of the SVN repo that the
team don't have time to update to 2.3.13.  We've already done that, and
added a bunch of tweaks and new patches that suit _our_ needs.  We'd
love to see a 2.3 package set in official Debian that meets _everyone's_
needs.  We're willing to contribute existing code, people's time, SVN
servers, build hosts, etc, to help that happen.

How can we best do this?  Who else is doing the same things?


CCT We are talking about a relatively well tested and stable
CCT upstream source

My personal perception is that the upstream developers are mostly
dealing with large but fairly static installations (in universities), so
while they do care deeply about scalability and do drive some new
features, they don't hit as many corner cases or experience as much
demand for cool new shiny stuff as we do deploying mainly in the SME and
local government space.  But that's just my excuse for all the patches
we put in ;-)  Stable in this context can mean slow-moving...


Cheers


Duncan

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Bug#454498: 2.3.13 now available.

2008-12-18 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi Duncan,

 2.3.8 is already in experimental, but incase's cyrus23 SVN branch hasn't
 been touched for a year.  I'm guessing from the tiny volume of traffic
 on the coordination list, and the quietness of the SVN repo that the
 team don't have time to update to 2.3.13.  We've already done that, and
 added a bunch of tweaks and new patches that suit _our_ needs.  We'd
 love to see a 2.3 package set in official Debian that meets _everyone's_
 needs.  We're willing to contribute existing code, people's time, SVN
 servers, build hosts, etc, to help that happen.

 How can we best do this?  Who else is doing the same things?

How about joining pkg-cyrus-imapd team on alioth? Speaking for myself
I have very good experience with drawing new blood into packaging
teams. We/I can always sponsor uploads prepared by somebody else.

We are of course also interested in people who will look at old
bugs and help them fix them, ie. not just put new shiny versions/features.

And please bear in mind that we try to be pretty conservative, especially
when it comes to bdb version. That also means that before 2.3 hits unstable
there has to be a clean way how to upgrade from 2.2 (including all those
nasty bdb databases, etc.).

Ondrej.
P.S.: I am happy running cyrus-imapd 2.2, so there is no strong push
to invest time into packaging 2.3 before lenny is out (or arguing on this
list whether somebody agree or disagree). But I am willing to support
others work.
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Bug#454498: 2.3.13 now available.

2008-12-17 Thread Ondřej Surý
 What help would the Debian Cyrus Team most appreciate?

I cannot speak for others, but I see no sense to package cyrus-imapd
2.3 right now,
it will not get into next stable, so sensible approach is to wait for
lenny to release
and after that move cyrus-imapd-2.3 to unstable, prepare way how to upgrade
from 2.2 to 2.3 and then remove 2.2 from unstable.

Ondrej
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Bug#454498: 2.3.13 now available.

2008-12-12 Thread Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd
Hi,

I am keen to implement a server with the new replication features, so
I'd like to help move this along.

Thanks,

Daniel




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