Bug#469732: [Pkg-scicomp-devel] Bug#469732: libglpk0: excessive install dependencies

2008-03-07 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
package libglpk0
found 469732 4.27-1
thanks

* Larry Doolittle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-06 14:18]:

 Rafael -

 On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 10:39:34PM +0100, Rafael Laboissiere wrote:
  * Larry Doolittle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-06 11:16]:
 
   Package: libglpk0
   Version: 4.25-1
   Severity: wishlist

 Note that since I hadn't upgraded (and hope not to until this
 is resolved), reportbug inserted the wrong version, and I didn't
 notice until later.  This mistake makes the pretty version
 status images at bugs.debian.org incorrect.  I've never messed
 with Debian BTS control; if you don't mind, can you fix it?

Done.

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Bug#469732: [Pkg-scicomp-devel] Bug#469732: libglpk0: excessive install dependencies

2008-03-07 Thread Falk Hueffner
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 10:39:34PM +0100, Rafael Laboissiere wrote:
 You are absolutely right.  I will consider producing two independent library
 packages, one with MathPROG support and the other without.  I do not know
 whether this will be possible, though.  In case it is possible, which naming
 scheme would you suggested?  We could have:
 
 with MathPROGwithout MathPROG
 1st option  libglpk0 libglpk-light0
 2nd option  libglpk-mathprog0libglpk0
 
 Which would be better?

Just for the record, I don't think this is a good idea. It makes the
package more complicated, users have to waste time with checking out
what they need, while 99.99% will not care about 5M of disk space that
cost about 0.1 cent.

 Falk



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Bug#469732: [Pkg-scicomp-devel] Bug#469732: libglpk0: excessive install dependencies

2008-03-07 Thread Larry Doolittle
Falk -

On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 03:02:41PM +0100, Falk Hueffner wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 10:39:34PM +0100, Rafael Laboissiere wrote:
  You are absolutely right.  I will consider producing two independent library
  packages, one with MathPROG support and the other without.  [chop]
 
 Just for the record, I don't think this is a good idea. It makes the
 package more complicated, users have to waste time with checking out
 what they need, while 99.99% will not care about 5M of disk space that
 cost about 0.1 cent.

Let's see: a new 500 Gig disk costs about US$100.  5 Meg
is 1e-5 of that, or 0.1 cent.  Your arithmetic checks.

I guess you have never operated an obsolete machine on its
last legs, still doing useful work on last-decades technology,
with its disks at 99% full, where upgrading disks would also
mean upgrading the disk controller, and maybe installing a
new kernel to support that controller.  Cost of each extra
5 Meg is zero, until the cumulative effect forces an upgrade,
which costs both real money and system downtime.

A Debian system where sensible package granularity lets people
install what they need: priceless.

I am an Octave user, and only install libglpk because it is
an Octave dependency.  I haven't yet done any linear programming
within Octave, but it's nice to know that will work if I ever
need it.  Does adding MathPROG to libglpk benefit me in any way?
I honestly don't know, I haven't done the research.

   - Larry



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Bug#469732: [Pkg-scicomp-devel] Bug#469732: libglpk0: excessive install dependencies

2008-03-06 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
package libglpk0
tags 469732 confirmed
thanks


* Larry Doolittle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-06 11:16]:

 Package: libglpk0
 Version: 4.25-1
 Severity: wishlist
 
 The 4.27-1 update includes:
   * debian/control: Build-depend on libiodbc2-dev and
 libmysqlclient15-dev in order to get MathPROG support
 Apparently this also adds to the install-time dependencies.
 Upgrading to this version, apt-get tells me:
 
 The following extra packages will be installed:
   libiodbc2 libmysqlclient15off mysql-common
 [chop]
 After this operation, 5124kB of additional disk space will be used.

You are absolutely right.  I will consider producing two independent library
packages, one with MathPROG support and the other without.  I do not know
whether this will be possible, though.  In case it is possible, which naming
scheme would you suggested?  We could have:

with MathPROGwithout MathPROG
1st option  libglpk0 libglpk-light0
2nd option  libglpk-mathprog0libglpk0

Which would be better?

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Rafael



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