Bug#474201: KPowersave doesn't suspend/hibernate
On Monday 28. April 2008 02:34:15 Michael Biebl wrote: Can you really reproduce the problem by creating a file ~/.dbus? My guess is that with a .dbus file present apps that start later can't find the running daemon. Maybe it was a missing dbus-x11 package. Did you have this package installed, when you noticed the problem, do you have it installed now? I had that installed before, and still do. -- Thomas Zander signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#474201: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#474201: KPowersave doesn't suspend/hibernate
Thomas Zander wrote: On Monday 28. April 2008 02:34:15 Michael Biebl wrote: Can you really reproduce the problem by creating a file ~/.dbus? My guess is that with a .dbus file present apps that start later can't find the running daemon. The problem is, that I can't reproduce this bug by creating a file ~/.dbus. That's why I asked you, if you can verify this problem by creating such a file. The problem could be someplace else after all and we are on the wrong track alltogether. Maybe it was a missing dbus-x11 package. Did you have this package installed, when you noticed the problem, do you have it installed now? I had that installed before, and still do. Ok. Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#474201: KPowersave doesn't suspend/hibernate
On Thursday 24. April 2008 07:12:13 Michael Biebl wrote: Thomas Zander wrote: Would it be an idea to add an rm -f $HOME/.dbus before the try to create a Yes, please remove the ~/.dbus file. There is no need though to create the directory manually in a boot script. dbus-daemon will do that automatically. Ok, let me rephrase my question as my intend apparently didn't come across. I think its a bug [somewhere] that the dbus daemon silently fails when the user has a .dbus file in his homedir. I think this bug should be fixed by deleting that file either in the startup sequence or in the dbus daemon itself. Do you have any suggestions where that could be done? If so, please rename and reassign this task to the appropriate package. -- Thomas Zander signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#474201: KPowersave doesn't suspend/hibernate
reassign 474201 dbus thanks Thomas Zander wrote: On Thursday 24. April 2008 07:12:13 Michael Biebl wrote: Thomas Zander wrote: Would it be an idea to add an rm -f $HOME/.dbus before the try to create a Yes, please remove the ~/.dbus file. There is no need though to create the directory manually in a boot script. dbus-daemon will do that automatically. Ok, let me rephrase my question as my intend apparently didn't come across. I think its a bug [somewhere] that the dbus daemon silently fails when the user has a .dbus file in his homedir. I think this bug should be fixed by deleting that file either in the startup sequence or in the dbus daemon itself. Dbus should only delete the ~/.dbus file it it has created it itself. As dbus-daemon doesn't create a ~/.dbus file, but a ~/.dbus *directory*, it would be wrong, if dbus-daemon simply removed the file, when it doesn't belong to dbus-daemon (it could be a configuration file of some other software, who knows). Do you have any suggestions where that could be done? If so, please rename and reassign this task to the appropriate package. It's obvious not a bug in kpowersave. I'm reassignig to dbus, although I doubt that it is a bug in dbus. I can only assume that the .dbus file got created by an accident. Cheers, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#474201: KPowersave doesn't suspend/hibernate
Thomas Zander wrote: On Thursday 24. April 2008 07:12:13 Michael Biebl wrote: Thomas Zander wrote: Would it be an idea to add an rm -f $HOME/.dbus before the try to create a Yes, please remove the ~/.dbus file. There is no need though to create the directory manually in a boot script. dbus-daemon will do that automatically. Ok, let me rephrase my question as my intend apparently didn't come across. I think its a bug [somewhere] that the dbus daemon silently fails when the user has a .dbus file in his homedir. Just tried to reproduce your problem. I created a file ~/.dbus, but dbus-daemon --session is still correctly started. Can you really reproduce the problem by creating a file ~/.dbus? Maybe it was a missing dbus-x11 package. Did you have this package installed, when you noticed the problem, do you have it installed now? Cheers, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#474201: KPowersave doesn't suspend/hibernate
Thomas Zander wrote: On Thursday 10. April 2008 23:46:55 you wrote: please run hald in debug mode (hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes) and attach the output to the bug report. ok. The log doesn't seem to contain a suspend attempt. Could you only send me the relevant log output when you do the suspend attempt. That attempt is at the very end, I indeed saw no reaction in the hal log. I did more digging here, as I am not convinced that searching outside of kpowersave is relevant. [reading .xsession-errors] this is an interresting line; Xsession: X session started for zander at Tue Apr 8 23:01:27 CEST 2008 Unable to create /home/zander/.dbus/session-bus The reason, I found, is that somehow I got a .dbus FILE in my homedir. So obviously the dir could not be created. I bet that file got restored from the backup from another system. Would it be an idea to add an rm -f $HOME/.dbus before the try to create a Yes, please remove the ~/.dbus file. There is no need though to create the directory manually in a boot script. dbus-daemon will do that automatically. Please make also sure that you have installed dbus-x11. Cheers, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#474201: KPowersave doesn't suspend/hibernate
On Thursday 10. April 2008 23:46:55 you wrote: please run hald in debug mode (hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes) and attach the output to the bug report. ok. The log doesn't seem to contain a suspend attempt. Could you only send me the relevant log output when you do the suspend attempt. That attempt is at the very end, I indeed saw no reaction in the hal log. I did more digging here, as I am not convinced that searching outside of kpowersave is relevant. [reading .xsession-errors] this is an interresting line; Xsession: X session started for zander at Tue Apr 8 23:01:27 CEST 2008 Unable to create /home/zander/.dbus/session-bus The reason, I found, is that somehow I got a .dbus FILE in my homedir. So obviously the dir could not be created. I bet that file got restored from the backup from another system. Would it be an idea to add an rm -f $HOME/.dbus before the try to create a dir (in the boot scripts)? -- Thomas Zander signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#474201: KPowersave doesn't suspend/hibernate
Michael Biebl wrote: tags 474201 moreinfo unreproducible thanks Thomas Zander wrote: Package: kpowersave Version:0.7.3-1 Severity: important When using the kpowersave systray item I can select to either suspend to disk or suspend to ram. Unfortunately nothing happens when I click either. Well, my screen locks, but nothing more happens. When I type s2ram or s2disk, or even hibernate (all as root) my laptop does get suspended correctly. Which leads me to believe that kpowersave doesn't work together with other debian packages properly. Hi Thomas, your bug report is missing vital information: kernel version, architecture, versions of dependend packages like hal and pm-utils. I can only suggest that you use reportbug (or reportbug-ng) for future bug reports. Just guessing out of the blue: Is your user in group powerdev? If not, please add your user to group plugdev and reload dbus (/etc/init.d/dbus force-reload). If that doesn't help, please run hald in debug mode (hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes) and attach the output to the bug report. Hi Thomas, can you provide me the information I requested? Otherwise I'll close this bug. Cheers, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#474201: KPowersave doesn't suspend/hibernate
On Friday 4. April 2008 09:01:29 Michael Biebl wrote: When using the kpowersave systray item I can select to either suspend to disk or suspend to ram. Unfortunately nothing happens when I click either. Well, my screen locks, but nothing more happens. When I type s2ram or s2disk, or even hibernate (all as root) my laptop does get suspended correctly. Which leads me to believe that kpowersave doesn't work together with other debian packages properly. Hi Thomas, your bug report is missing vital information: kernel version, architecture, versions of dependend packages like hal and pm-utils. I can only suggest that you use reportbug (or reportbug-ng) for future bug reports. If only reportbug was intelligent enough to find out that I have exim setup to never do mail and propose to save a file instead... (or start kmail or so) I.e. I tried, but no bug actually gets reported if I use it. Anyway, sorry for not providing more info; I am using 'lenny' Linux lacuna 2.6.24-1-686 #1 SMP Mon Feb 11 14:37:45 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux Just guessing out of the blue: Is your user in group powerdev? No, its not. Which package should I file a bug against to make sure the default (i.e. created in the installer), only non-root user gets auto-added to that group? If not, please add your user to group plugdev and reload dbus (/etc/init.d/dbus force-reload). If that doesn't help, It didn't. I rebooted my machine in the meantime (and promptly forgot I had this mail in my drafts box, thanks for the reminder!) Still no luck. please run hald in debug mode (hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes) and attach the output to the bug report. ok. -- Thomas Zander hald.out.bz2 Description: BZip2 compressed data signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#474201: KPowersave doesn't suspend/hibernate
Thomas Zander wrote: On Friday 4. April 2008 09:01:29 Michael Biebl wrote: When using the kpowersave systray item I can select to either suspend to disk or suspend to ram. Unfortunately nothing happens when I click either. Well, my screen locks, but nothing more happens. When I type s2ram or s2disk, or even hibernate (all as root) my laptop does get suspended correctly. Which leads me to believe that kpowersave doesn't work together with other debian packages properly. Hi Thomas, your bug report is missing vital information: kernel version, architecture, versions of dependend packages like hal and pm-utils. I can only suggest that you use reportbug (or reportbug-ng) for future bug reports. If only reportbug was intelligent enough to find out that I have exim setup to never do mail and propose to save a file instead... (or start kmail or so) I.e. I tried, but no bug actually gets reported if I use it. You can try reportbug-ng in that case (it allows to use a mua of your choice) Anyway, sorry for not providing more info; I am using 'lenny' Linux lacuna 2.6.24-1-686 #1 SMP Mon Feb 11 14:37:45 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux Just guessing out of the blue: Is your user in group powerdev? No, its not. Which package should I file a bug against to make sure the default (i.e. created in the installer), only non-root user gets auto-added to that group? The user created during installation (using d-i) should be in group powerdev/netdev/plugdev afaik. If not, please add your user to group plugdev and reload dbus (/etc/init.d/dbus force-reload). If that doesn't help, It didn't. I rebooted my machine in the meantime (and promptly forgot I had this mail in my drafts box, thanks for the reminder!) Still no luck. please run hald in debug mode (hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes) and attach the output to the bug report. ok. The log doesn't seem to contain a suspend attempt. Could you only send me the relevant log output when you do the suspend attempt. Cheers, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#474201: KPowersave doesn't suspend/hibernate
Package: kpowersave Version:0.7.3-1 Severity: important When using the kpowersave systray item I can select to either suspend to disk or suspend to ram. Unfortunately nothing happens when I click either. Well, my screen locks, but nothing more happens. When I type s2ram or s2disk, or even hibernate (all as root) my laptop does get suspended correctly. Which leads me to believe that kpowersave doesn't work together with other debian packages properly. -- Thomas Zander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#474201: KPowersave doesn't suspend/hibernate
tags 474201 moreinfo unreproducible thanks Thomas Zander wrote: Package: kpowersave Version:0.7.3-1 Severity: important When using the kpowersave systray item I can select to either suspend to disk or suspend to ram. Unfortunately nothing happens when I click either. Well, my screen locks, but nothing more happens. When I type s2ram or s2disk, or even hibernate (all as root) my laptop does get suspended correctly. Which leads me to believe that kpowersave doesn't work together with other debian packages properly. Hi Thomas, your bug report is missing vital information: kernel version, architecture, versions of dependend packages like hal and pm-utils. I can only suggest that you use reportbug (or reportbug-ng) for future bug reports. Just guessing out of the blue: Is your user in group powerdev? If not, please add your user to group plugdev and reload dbus (/etc/init.d/dbus force-reload). If that doesn't help, please run hald in debug mode (hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes) and attach the output to the bug report. Thanks, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#474201: KPowersave doesn't suspend/hibernate
Michael Biebl wrote: Just guessing out of the blue: Is your user in group powerdev? If not, please add your user to group plugdev and reload dbus ^^^ err, powerdev, obviously See also /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf and /usr/share/doc/hal/README.Debian. Cheers, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
