Bug#503199: [Bulk] Re: Bug#503199: rar: use 64 bit binary for the amd64 port

2008-10-25 Thread Matteo Croce
On Thursday 23 October 2008 23:49:52 Martin Meredith wrote:
 The licencing of rar doesn't really allow for us to do this.

 The licencing clearly states :-

5. The RAR/WinRAR unlicensed trial version may be freely distributed,
   with exceptions noted below, provided the distribution package is
   not modified in any way.

 This means that we cannot redistribute the x64 version alongside the
 i386 version without using a separate orig.tar.gz for that version,
 which I'm not too sure the archive/etc would eb able to cope with having
 two different source packages build the same binary for different
 architectures.

 To be honest, I personally would rather leave it as it is, rather than
 making what I see as kludgy changes to accomodate something that is
 likely to be more unstable, and also, for myself, currently, untestable.

 I've consulted with the ftp-master team regarding whether the 2 source
 names one binary name is possible, and am awaiting a reply, though even
 if it is, I'm going to be wary doing this.

Martin, you received a positive reply from Eugene Roshal,
sayng that you're allowed to package two RAR distributives into same TAR, 
provided that such
distributives contain all original files not modified

Consider doing this

Cheers,
Matteo Croce



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Bug#503199: [Bulk] Re: Bug#503199: rar: use 64 bit binary for the amd64 port

2008-10-24 Thread Martin Meredith
  b.  The RAR/WinRAR unlicensed trial version may not be distributed
  inside of any other software package without written  
  permission of the copyright owner.

Section 5.b




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Bug#503199: rar: use 64 bit binary for the amd64 port

2008-10-23 Thread Matteo Croce
Package: rar
Version: 1:3.8b3-1
Severity: wishlist


A 64 bit binary of rar was published on the rar site:
http://rarlab.com/rar/rarlinux-x64-3.8.0.tar.gz
please use it instead of the 32 bit static one for the amd64 port.
i've done some testing and there is a speedup dependent on the CPU type
On my system (Atom 330, 64 bit) it gives a 10% advantage
while compressing 236 MB of HTML files (the openjdk documentation):

# time rar a -idq -m5 -s api32.rar /usr/share/doc/openjdk-6-jre/api
real2m32.908s
user2m30.750s
sys 0m2.000s
# time rar64 a -idq -m5 -s api64.rar /usr/share/doc/openjdk-6-jre/api
real2m18.543s
user2m16.140s
sys 0m2.340s

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.27.2 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=it_IT.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=it_IT.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

rar depends on no packages.

rar recommends no packages.

Versions of packages rar suggests:
ii  unrar 1:3.8.2-1  Unarchiver for .rar files (non-fre

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Bug#503199: rar: use 64 bit binary for the amd64 port

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Meredith
The licencing of rar doesn't really allow for us to do this. 

The licencing clearly states :-

   5. The RAR/WinRAR unlicensed trial version may be freely distributed,
  with exceptions noted below, provided the distribution package is 
  not modified in any way.

This means that we cannot redistribute the x64 version alongside the
i386 version without using a separate orig.tar.gz for that version,
which I'm not too sure the archive/etc would eb able to cope with having
two different source packages build the same binary for different
architectures.

To be honest, I personally would rather leave it as it is, rather than
making what I see as kludgy changes to accomodate something that is
likely to be more unstable, and also, for myself, currently, untestable.

I've consulted with the ftp-master team regarding whether the 2 source
names one binary name is possible, and am awaiting a reply, though even
if it is, I'm going to be wary doing this.




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Bug#503199: [Bulk] Re: Bug#503199: rar: use 64 bit binary for the amd64 port

2008-10-23 Thread Matteo Croce
On Thursday 23 October 2008 23:49:52 Martin Meredith wrote:
 The licencing of rar doesn't really allow for us to do this.

 The licencing clearly states :-

5. The RAR/WinRAR unlicensed trial version may be freely distributed,
   with exceptions noted below, provided the distribution package is
   not modified in any way.

 This means that we cannot redistribute the x64 version alongside the
 i386 version without using a separate orig.tar.gz for that version,
 which I'm not too sure the archive/etc would eb able to cope with having
 two different source packages build the same binary for different
 architectures.

 To be honest, I personally would rather leave it as it is, rather than
 making what I see as kludgy changes to accomodate something that is
 likely to be more unstable, and also, for myself, currently, untestable.

 I've consulted with the ftp-master team regarding whether the 2 source
 names one binary name is possible, and am awaiting a reply, though even
 if it is, I'm going to be wary doing this.

Why don't redistribute a TAR archive with the two original 32 and 64 bit  TARs 
in it?



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