Bug#504301: debdelta-upgrade for the experimental branch

2010-02-06 Thread A Mennucc

Nelson A. de Oliveira ha scritto:

Hi!

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:07 AM, A Mennucc mennu...@debian.org wrote:

Nelson A. de Oliveira ha scritto:

Could it somehow be related with apt-get priority system? (since
experimental has a lower priority than unstable).

maybe... I am not familiar with that so much...

what happens if you call 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ? is openoffice.org in the
list of stuff that will be upgraded? or, do you need to add a '-t
experimental' option?


With a simple apt-get dist-upgrade or aptitude full-upgrade it
won't install the new openoffice.org packages. It's needed to add -t
experimental on both to get the new version.


Also, may you try with the new 'cupt'  (that uses debdelta if available)
what does it do?


It also doesn't upgrade openoffice.org (with cupt full-upgrade or
cupt dist-upgrade).
Like the others, it's necessary the -t experimental too.
(I wasn't unable to test if it was going to download the deltas, when
using -t experimental, since I hit bug #568515)

When reporting bugs (with reportbug), I see this:

  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')

I've read the apt_preferences manpage but I don't where experimental
is set (per default) to a lower priority.


Please write this 3 lines inside /etc/apt/preferences

Package: *
Pin: release o=Debian,a=experimental
Pin-Priority: 100

and then try once again.
(AFAICT this will not upgrade all your packages to experimental;
 but if a package was installed from experimental, it should upgrade it)

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Bug#504301: debdelta-upgrade for the experimental branch

2010-02-05 Thread A Mennucc

hi,

Nelson A. de Oliveira ha scritto:

Full output of debdelta-upgrade -vd (version 0.38) is attached.


I see that debdelta is looking for
http://www.bononia.it/debian-deltas/pool/main/p/pcsc-lite/libpcsclite1_1.5.5-2_1.5.5-3_i386.debdelta
and not finding it ; but now that delta is available ; the problem is 
that it takes some time for the servers to generate deltas


 I see nothing about openoffice.org* packages, even with the deltas
 available in your repository.


# apt-cache policy openoffice.org-core
openoffice.org-core:
  Installed: 1:3.2.0~rc3-1
  Candidate: 1:3.2.0~rc3-1
  Version table:
 1:3.2.0~rc4-1 0
  1 http://ftp.us.debian.org experimental/main Packages
 *** 1:3.2.0~rc3-1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 1:3.1.1-14 0
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Packages

Could it somehow be related with apt-get priority system? (since
experimental has a lower priority than unstable).


maybe... I am not familiar with that so much...

what happens if you call 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ? is openoffice.org in 
the list of stuff that will be upgraded? or, do you need to add a '-t 
experimental' option?


debdeltas tries to see what may be upgraded, and the new version,
 using the python-apt call
'cache=apt.Cache() ; cache.upgrade(True)'
so it is similar to a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' call

Also, may you try with the new 'cupt'  (that uses debdelta if available)
what does it do?


Thank you!


actually... thank you! even more, for testing and caring

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Bug#504301: debdelta-upgrade for the experimental branch

2010-02-05 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Hi!

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:07 AM, A Mennucc mennu...@debian.org wrote:
 Nelson A. de Oliveira ha scritto:
 Could it somehow be related with apt-get priority system? (since
 experimental has a lower priority than unstable).

 maybe... I am not familiar with that so much...

 what happens if you call 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ? is openoffice.org in the
 list of stuff that will be upgraded? or, do you need to add a '-t
 experimental' option?

With a simple apt-get dist-upgrade or aptitude full-upgrade it
won't install the new openoffice.org packages. It's needed to add -t
experimental on both to get the new version.

 Also, may you try with the new 'cupt'  (that uses debdelta if available)
 what does it do?

It also doesn't upgrade openoffice.org (with cupt full-upgrade or
cupt dist-upgrade).
Like the others, it's necessary the -t experimental too.
(I wasn't unable to test if it was going to download the deltas, when
using -t experimental, since I hit bug #568515)

When reporting bugs (with reportbug), I see this:

  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')

I've read the apt_preferences manpage but I don't where experimental
is set (per default) to a lower priority.

So it seems that it's indeed necessary some kind of option to make
debdelta-upgrade download deltas from other distributions, right?
(like -t experimental from the other tools)

Best regards,
Nelson



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Bug#504301: debdelta-upgrade for the experimental branch

2010-02-04 Thread A Mennucc

Nelson A. de Oliveira ha scritto:

Hi!

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:47 PM, A Mennucc deb...@tonelli.sns.it wrote:

On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 02:20:51PM -0200, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:

It would be very good if we could use debdelta-upgrade to also update
packages available at experimental.
Maybe something like aptitude's -t experimental
(debdelta-upgrade -t experimental)

it should work now (no change needed on the client side,
no special option)


But for example, I have the openoffice.org* packages from
experimental. The current installed version is 1:3.2.0~rc3-1, but
there are new packages available (with version 1:3.2.0~rc4-1)


thanks for noting! this is quite strange!

according to the log in
http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mennucc1/debdelta/run/log/2010-01/2010-01-29-18.log.gz

the deltas were created on Jan 29, for all the upgrades
 1:3.2.0~rc3-1 -  1:3.2.0~rc4-1

and the delta files are in the pool, where they should be, at
http://www.bononia.it/debian-deltas/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/

I'll investigate

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Bug#504301: debdelta-upgrade for the experimental branch

2010-02-04 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Hi!

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:20 AM, A Mennucc mennu...@debian.org wrote:
 thanks for noting! this is quite strange!

 according to the log in
 http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mennucc1/debdelta/run/log/2010-01/2010-01-29-18.log.gz

 the deltas were created on Jan 29, for all the upgrades
  1:3.2.0~rc3-1 -  1:3.2.0~rc4-1

 and the delta files are in the pool, where they should be, at
 http://www.bononia.it/debian-deltas/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/

 I'll investigate

Can some kind of output logs from my side help in debug this, please?

Thank you!

Best regards,
Nelson



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Bug#504301: debdelta-upgrade for the experimental branch

2010-02-04 Thread A Mennucc

Nelson A. de Oliveira ha scritto:

Can some kind of output logs from my side help in debug this, please?


please install 0.38 (just uploaded) and run 'debdelta-upgrade -vd' : it 
will print

Debdelta is not present: URI
and we will see where it looks for the missing deltas

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Bug#504301: debdelta-upgrade for the experimental branch

2010-02-04 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Hi!

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:54 PM, A Mennucc mennu...@debian.org wrote:
 please install 0.38 (just uploaded) and run 'debdelta-upgrade -vd' : it will
 print
 Debdelta is not present: URI
 and we will see where it looks for the missing deltas

Full output of debdelta-upgrade -vd (version 0.38) is attached.
I see nothing about openoffice.org* packages, even with the deltas
available in your repository.

# apt-cache policy openoffice.org-core
openoffice.org-core:
  Installed: 1:3.2.0~rc3-1
  Candidate: 1:3.2.0~rc3-1
  Version table:
 1:3.2.0~rc4-1 0
  1 http://ftp.us.debian.org experimental/main Packages
 *** 1:3.2.0~rc3-1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 1:3.1.1-14 0
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Packages

Could it somehow be related with apt-get priority system? (since
experimental has a lower priority than unstable).

Thank you!

Best regards,
Nelson


debdelta-upgrade_output.txt.gz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data


Bug#504301: debdelta-upgrade for the experimental branch

2010-02-03 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Hi!

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:47 PM, A Mennucc deb...@tonelli.sns.it wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 02:20:51PM -0200, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:
 It would be very good if we could use debdelta-upgrade to also update
 packages available at experimental.
 Maybe something like aptitude's -t experimental
 (debdelta-upgrade -t experimental)

 it should work now (no change needed on the client side,
 no special option)

But for example, I have the openoffice.org* packages from
experimental. The current installed version is 1:3.2.0~rc3-1, but
there are new packages available (with version 1:3.2.0~rc4-1)

A simple debdelta-upgrade -v does not update these packages that are
available at experimental. Or something is still neeeded on the server
side?

Thank you!

Best regards,
Nelson



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Bug#504301: debdelta-upgrade for the experimental branch

2010-01-25 Thread A Mennucc
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 02:20:51PM -0200, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:
 Package: debdelta
 Version: 0.27
 Severity: wishlist
 
 Hi!
 
 It would be very good if we could use debdelta-upgrade to also update
 packages available at experimental.
 Maybe something like aptitude's -t experimental
 (debdelta-upgrade -t experimental)

hi,

it should work now (no change needed on the client side,
no special option)

(I'll wait a few days to see if it runs ok, then close this bug)

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Bug#504301: debdelta-upgrade for the experimental branch

2008-11-02 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Package: debdelta
Version: 0.27
Severity: wishlist

Hi!

It would be very good if we could use debdelta-upgrade to also update
packages available at experimental.
Maybe something like aptitude's -t experimental
(debdelta-upgrade -t experimental)

Thank you very much!

Best regards,
Nelson

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.27-naoliv1 (SMP w/2 CPU cores; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=pt_BR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages debdelta depends on:
ii  bsdiff 4.3-6 generate/apply a patch between two
ii  libbz2-1.0 1.0.5-1   high-quality block-sorting file co
ii  libc6  2.7-15GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  python 2.5.2-2   An interactive high-level object-o
ii  xdelta 1.1.3-8   A diff utility which works with bi
ii  zlib1g 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-12 compression library - runtime

Versions of packages debdelta recommends:
ii  python-apt  0.7.7.1+nmu1 Python interface to libapt-pkg
ii  xdelta3 0s.dfsg-1A diff utility which works with bi

debdelta suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information



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