Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-19 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi,

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 06:32:17PM +0100, Kai Weber wrote:
 I tried to run sudo in gdb and step through the code, but I failed.
 Maybe you have a tip?

I stepped a bit through the code today and what I can get is that the
message (not found) comes from sudo. The problem seems to be that
in sudo.c around the lines 621 - 625 when calling find_path the path is
still set to the invokers path and not to the secure path that is
inserted into the environment with which the program would be run.
I'm not yet so far to see:

a) why this happens
b) under which conditions

However I just remembered a workaround for you, as long as we don't know
the exact reason. You could configure an alias in /etc/profile:

alias sudo='PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin sudo'

I know that this is kind of ugly, but it works around the problem for
now:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ alias sudo='PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin sudo'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo invoke-rc.d 
invoke-rc.d: syntax error: missing required parameter, --help assumed

From what I currently can tell this indeed seems to be a bug.
However I'm uncertain how this is triggered, given that it seems to work
in certain situations. I'm also not sure if this deserves more work then
what we've already tried, because their is an easy workaround and it is
fixed in lenny anyway.

Regards,
Patrick



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Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-19 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi Kai,

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 06:32:17PM +0100, Kai Weber wrote:
 It's exactly the same configuration.

I again ask you: Really? Is it really that the group you configured in
sudoers is in fact the group sudo? Or could it be that you use another
group instead of sudo?

I'm asking because I just figured that the problem seems to be related
to the sudo group. If the user is not a member of the sudo group (which
seems to have some special not documented meaning...) but lets say the
adm group and the entry in sudoers is

%adm ALL=(ALL) ALL

everything is okay.
This is reproducible for me, so I guess you in fact have different group
memberships on the system where it works?

Best Regards,
Patrick



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Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-19 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi,

hopefully this will be my last email for today :-)

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 01:39:00PM +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
 I'm asking because I just figured that the problem seems to be related
 to the sudo group. If the user is not a member of the sudo group (which
 seems to have some special not documented meaning...) but lets say the
 adm group and the entry in sudoers is
 
 %adm ALL=(ALL) ALL

Well, that seems to be fact. I just found out that sudo is compiled
with the --with-exempt-group option set to sudo. This enables members of
the group sudo to use sudo without entering a password. Not that I see a
sense in this, because NOPASSWD exists, but it has a not so nice
side-effect: The secure_path is not set on users in this group. This
seems to be wanted behaviour, given that the CHANGES file states:

393) Users in the 'exempt' group shouldn't get their $PATH overridden
 by 'secure-path'.  Patch from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What I still do not understand is that this wasn't changed (at least
according to the CHANGES file) since then, but the side-effect does not
exist in the Lenny version. However, I did not diff the old and the new
code to verify that this code path hasn't changed since then, so it is
possible that upstream decided to change this without documenting it.

So to fix the problem for you:
- Move users which are in the group sudo to the group adm (or another
  group of your choice)
- Change your sudoers configuration to use %adm instead of %sudo
- If you don't want that users need to enter their password add the
  NOPASSWD flag to the configuration

Or wait until Lenny is released ;-)

Best Regards,
Patrick



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Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-19 Thread Kai Weber
... this indeed fixes the bug.



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Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-19 Thread Kai Weber
 This is reproducible for me, so I guess you in fact have different
group
 memberships on the system where it works?

I never thought that

%adm ALL=(ALL) ALL

and 

%sudo ALL=(ALL) ALL

are THAT much different. But you are right. This is the cause of the
bug.

Regards, Kai



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Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-19 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 04:12:27PM +0100, Kai Weber wrote:
 ... this indeed fixes the bug.

Great. :-) I guess its _still_ a bug in Etch. But I think it does need
no solving, because its easy fixable by a simple reconfiguration.
Luckily we have this bug report open for documentation, if other people
should hit into this trouble.

Best Regards,
Patrick



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Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-18 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi Kai,

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 05:06:01PM +0100, Kai Weber wrote:
  So I guess your problem is different and I wonder weither you have
  special options in your sudoers file. Can you attach it?
  I think that the defaults would be especially interesting.
 
 My settings are Debian standard settings:
 
 Defaultsenv_reset
 rootALL=(ALL) ALL
 %sudo   ALL=(ALL) ALL

Indeed. After reading your mail I tried to reproduce the bug and were
able to do so, but unfortunately I still don't know why this happens.

 The strange part is: this is not my first Debian machine. All other (Etch) 
 machines work well with exactly these settings
 and exactly the same version of sudo.

Can you please confirm this? On a system where it works, do you really
have the exact same configuration wtr to sudo?

I'm out of options, too, so lets try more absurd things.. what shell
does the user have, whose trying to run invoke-rc.d? What shell does
root have?

Regards,
Patrick



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Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-18 Thread Kai Weber
 
 Can you please confirm this? On a system where it works, do you really
 have the exact same configuration wtr to sudo?

It's exactly the same configuration.

 I'm out of options, too, so lets try more absurd things.. what shell
 does the user have, whose trying to run invoke-rc.d? What shell does
 root have?

We all have /bin/bash.

I tried to run sudo in gdb and step through the code, but I failed.
Maybe you have a tip?

Kai



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Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-14 Thread schoenfeld / in-medias-res
Tags 504580 +unreproducible
thanks

Hi,

I tried to reproduce your bug [1] with the current version of sudo and
the version you used back when your reported the bug.
Unfortunately I was unable to do so. Could you report weither you still
face this problem? Because if you don't face this problem anymore the
bug could be closed.

Best Regards,
Patrick

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=504580



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Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-14 Thread Kai Weber
Since opening the bug, no new version of sudo for stable/etch was
released. So I am still seeing this problem with sudo version
1.6.8p12-4.

Maybe, you have an idea what I could try to debug the problem.

Regards, Kai



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Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-14 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi,

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:20:04PM +0100, Kai Weber wrote:
 Since opening the bug, no new version of sudo for stable/etch was
 released. So I am still seeing this problem with sudo version
 1.6.8p12-4.

I didn't mean that it would be fixed by a new version in Etch (which is
quiet unlikely given that we do not provide new versions in stable
releases, but security fixes only) but it could be fixed in the next
release of Debian. So you could test it with a new version from testing,
for example. Unfortunately you'd need to rebuild this to be able to
install it in Etch. If you are not able to do so, feel free to drop me a
line and I'll prepare a package to be installed/unpacked in Etch so you
can test it.

Regards,
Patrick



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Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-14 Thread Kai Weber
 I didn't mean that it would be fixed by a new version in Etch (which
is
 quiet unlikely given that we do not provide new versions in stable
 releases, but security fixes only) but it could be fixed in the next
 release of Debian.

The current focus is on releasing Lenny, I understand. But in my opinion
the bug I reported is a major one and we should try to fix it for Etch,
too. Upgrade to Lenny is not an option because Etch is the stable and
supported version.

 So you could test it with a new version from testing,
 for example. Unfortunately you'd need to rebuild this to be able to
 install it in Etch.

I built the version from testing (1.6.9p17-1). That version works.

Regards, Kai



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Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-14 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi,

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 04:00:46PM +0100, Kai Weber wrote:
  I didn't mean that it would be fixed by a new version in Etch (which
 is
  quiet unlikely given that we do not provide new versions in stable
  releases, but security fixes only) but it could be fixed in the next
  release of Debian.
 
 The current focus is on releasing Lenny, I understand. But in my opinion
 the bug I reported is a major one and we should try to fix it for Etch,
 too. Upgrade to Lenny is not an option because Etch is the stable and
 supported version.

BTW. I didn't want to say that you shall upgrade to Lenny.

well, I disagree that this is major isse. While I agree that it is *very*
annoying it is neither a security issue, nor does it render sudo
unusable. As a consequence it won't qualify for a stable update.
But its not helpful for you, if I tell you that, so lets see if we can
solve this issue.
I just remembered that I had a similar problem with a non-Debian system a while
ago. Back then I found out that Fedora does not use the --with-secure-path
compile time option which caused the issue for Fedora, while Debian
didn't have the issue.
Now according to the Debian changelog the option was added in version
1.6.3p6-1 of the package and never removed. I can confirm this by
reading the debian/rules file in the source package.

So I guess your problem is different and I wonder weither you have
special options in your sudoers file. Can you attach it?
I think that the defaults would be especially interesting.

Best Regards,
Patrick



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Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-14 Thread Kai Weber
 So I guess your problem is different and I wonder weither you have
 special options in your sudoers file. Can you attach it?
 I think that the defaults would be especially interesting.

My settings are Debian standard settings:

Defaultsenv_reset
rootALL=(ALL) ALL
%sudo   ALL=(ALL) ALL

The strange part is: this is not my first Debian machine. All other (Etch) 
machines work well with exactly these settings and exactly the same version of 
sudo.

I am out of options because I cannot see a difference in my setups, so I filed 
the bug report.

Thanks for your help,

Kai



Bug#504580: sudo: Commands in PATH /usr/sbin, /sbin not found

2008-11-05 Thread Kai Weber
Package: sudo
Version: 1.6.8p12-4
Severity: normal


I can not invoke commands in /usr/sbin, /sbin anymore. I have not found any 
difference in 
my setup to other machines I have. I disabled all .bashrc/.profile/... files to 
check if 
some configuration in there is doing harm. I tried to strace with this command:
sudo strace -o out.trace sudo invoke-rc.d but with this command I cannot 
reproduce the 
behavior. See below.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo invoke-rc.d
sudo: invoke-rc.d: command not found

The funny thing is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo which invoke-rc.d
/usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo sudo invoke-rc.d
invoke-rc.d: syntax error: missing required parameter, --help assumed

invoke-rc.d, Debian/SysVinit (/etc/rc?.d) initscript subsystem.
Copyright (c) 2000,2001 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...

This is the environment

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo env
TERM=linux
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
HOME=/home/kai
SHELL=/bin/bash
LOGNAME=root
USER=root
SUDO_COMMAND=/usr/bin/env
SUDO_USER=kai
SUDO_UID=1002
SUDO_GID=1002

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo -l
User kai may run the following commands on this host:
(ALL) ALL

I can provide more information if needed.

Regards, Kai Weber


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 4.0
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-6-686
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Versions of packages sudo depends on:
ii  libc6  2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libpam-modules 0.79-5Pluggable Authentication Modules f
ii  libpam0g   0.79-5Pluggable Authentication Modules l

sudo recommends no packages.

-- no debconf information



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