Bug#511522: general: Man pages should say what package a program belongs to
As several people have pointed out, there is already a good way (that I was not aware of) to find out this information, therefore I agree that this bug should be closed. Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#511522: general: Man pages should say what package a program belongs to
I'm not the bug reporter, but... On 2009-01-11 20:21:59 +, Roger Leigh wrote: % dpkg -S /usr/bin/basename coreutils: /usr/bin/basename This may be a bit more complex when the file is a symlink to an alternative. Concerning the man pages, packages sometimes install symlinks, and it isn't always easy to find what package installed them, in particular when they became dangling symlinks due to some bug. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.org - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#511522: general: Man pages should say what package a program belongs to
Package: general Severity: wishlist If some program belongs to a package which does not have the same name as the program, the man page for that command should say which package the program is part of. This is not the case in, for instance, coreutils or util-linux. This information is needed, even for packages that are always installed as part of the base distribution, since to get source code for a program in coreutils one needs to know that it is part of that package. Jack -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18jack1 Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#511522: general: Man pages should say what package a program belongs to
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 07:56:52PM +, Jack Grahl wrote: If some program belongs to a package which does not have the same name as the program, the man page for that command should say which package the program is part of. This is not the case in, for instance, coreutils or util-linux. This information is needed, even for packages that are always installed as part of the base distribution, since to get source code for a program in coreutils one needs to know that it is part of that package. % dpkg -S /usr/bin/basename coreutils: /usr/bin/basename % man basename | tail -n 1 GNU coreutils 6.9.92.4-f088d-dirtJanuary 2008 BASENAME(1) It's always trivial to determine which program belongs to a particular package--this is the job of the package manager, dpkg, whose job is to track which files are in which package. It does not need to be in the documentation (though it often is, albeit with a screwy version in this case). Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#511522: general: Man pages should say what package a program belongs to
* Jack Grahl [Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:56:52 +]: Package: general Severity: wishlist Hello, Jack. If some program belongs to a package which does not have the same name as the program, the man page for that command should say which package the program is part of. This is not the case in, for instance, coreutils or util-linux. This information is needed, even for packages that are always installed as part of the base distribution, since to get source code for a program in coreutils one needs to know that it is part of that package. I understand what you're asking, but I don't think modifying every man page in Debian to say what package the binary comes from is a good idea. In particular, man pages come from upstream, and we'd be carrying an unnecessary diff in *every* package. (Except, heh, for those binaries without a man page). I'm closing this bug, because there *is* a standard and more scalable way in Debian to achieve what you want: dpkg -S. You can run that command to know what package a binary (or, in general, any file) belongs to. For example: % dpkg -S /bin/ls coreutils: /bin/ls Hope this helps. -- Adeodato Simó dato at net.com.org.es Debian Developer adeodato at debian.org — Oh, George, you didn't jump into the river. How sensible of you! -- Mrs Banks in “Mary Poppins” -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#511522: general: Man pages should say what package a program belongs to
Jack Grahl, le Sun 11 Jan 2009 19:56:52 +, a écrit : If some program belongs to a package which does not have the same name as the program, the man page for that command should say which package the program is part of. Mmm, usually I just run dpkg -S bin/command, or better, dlocate bin/command Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#511522: general: Man pages should say what package a program belongs to
Jack Grahl wrote: Package: general Severity: wishlist Hello Jack, If some program belongs to a package which does not have the same name as the program, the man page for that command should say which package the program is part of. This is not the case in, for instance, coreutils or util-linux. This information is needed, even for packages that are always installed as part of the base distribution, since to get source code for a program in coreutils one needs to know that it is part of that package. 'dpkg -S name.number', can explicitly say which package man page belongs to. Example for coreutils: $ dpkg -S mv.1 coreutils: /usr/share/man/man1/mv.1.gz git-core: /usr/share/man/man1/git-mv.1.gz Look, first package is what you want. Is this approach acceptable for your needs? -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com Ukrainian C++ developer, Debian Maintainer, APT contributor signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#511522: general: Man pages should say what package a program belongs to
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:56:52 + (GMT) Jack Grahl mnv...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: If some program belongs to a package which does not have the same name as the program, the man page for that command should say which package the program is part of. This is not the case in, for instance, coreutils or util-linux. This information is needed, even for packages that are always installed as part of the base distribution, since to get source code for a program in coreutils one needs to know that it is part of that package. Alternatively, look up the package concerned using dpkg -S: $ dpkg -S ls.1.gz To make this a requirement for *all* manpages seems like massive overkill. Maybe this bug could be reassigned to coreutils and possibly cloned for util-linux that each manpage in the base packages at least contain a See also: comment, if only because there are so many. If you want this information in order to file a bug against the package containing the manpage, reportbug will do the lookup for you and give you the chance to choose which package relates to the file you wanted. If the syntax for dpkg -S is unfamiliar, reportbug is a suitable wrapper. A final alternative is the packages.debian.org website (has the advantage that it also allows looking up files within packages that are not currently installed). -- Neil Williams = http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ http://e-mail.is-not-s.ms/ pgpWhKvOP7R1m.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#511522: general: Man pages should say what package a program belongs to
Hi, On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 19:56 +, Jack Grahl wrote: If some program belongs to a package which does not have the same name as the program, the man page for that command should say which package the program is part of. Assuming that one can run: dpkg -S $(man -w hostname) manpages: /usr/share/man/man1/hostname.1.gz or dpkg -S $(man -s 7 -w hostname) manpages: /usr/share/man/man7/hostname.7.gz What would be the benefit of writing this information in each and every page? (with the risk of errors) Of course, man could be modified to look for that information, but I wonder if that's so useful. Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#511522: general: Man pages should say what package a program belongs to
Neil Williams wrote: A final alternative is the packages.debian.org website (has the advantage that it also allows looking up files within packages that are not currently installed). We also have apt-file utility, which does the same without looking to the site. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com Ukrainian C++ developer, Debian Maintainer, APT contributor signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
