Bug#512880: cron-apt: Please document added value of this package

2009-01-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

I was updating Debian reference.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:29:10AM +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
 Hi Osamu
 
 Very good information! I was not aware of this change.
 
 I will document that this package may be obsolete, at least to some
 extent. However I do not think that will be done before the lenny release.
 I have to learn what the new apt function do before I document. But if you
 have a proposed text that is of course good. :-)

Related section is:
http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch03.en.html#automaticdownloapgradeofpackages


Also, this was new thing to me but I do not know when they implimented.
http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch03.en.html#automaticdownloapgradeofpackages

Osamu



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Bug#512880: cron-apt: Please document added value of this package

2009-01-26 Thread Ola Lundqvist

Thanks a lot for the pointers!

// Ola

Quoting Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org:


Hi,

I was updating Debian reference.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:29:10AM +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote:

Hi Osamu

Very good information! I was not aware of this change.

I will document that this package may be obsolete, at least to some
extent. However I do not think that will be done before the lenny release.
I have to learn what the new apt function do before I document. But if you
have a proposed text that is of course good. :-)


Related section is:
http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch03.en.html#automaticdownloapgradeofpackages


Also, this was new thing to me but I do not know when they implimented.
http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch03.en.html#automaticdownloapgradeofpackages

Osamu






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Bug#512880: cron-apt: Please document added value of this package

2009-01-25 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi Osamu

Very good information! I was not aware of this change.

I will document that this package may be obsolete, at least to some
extent. However I do not think that will be done before the lenny release.
I have to learn what the new apt function do before I document. But if you
have a proposed text that is of course good. :-)

Thanks for the information.

Best regards,

// Ola

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 01:19:13AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Sorry for sending mail text before proofing.
 
 This is what it should have been:
 
 Please note, APT package since 0.5.28 Ubuntu hoary and 0.5.29 Debian
 unstable (Sat, 13 Nov 2004) has its own script /etc/cron.daily/apt,
 which can do:
  * fancy auto-clean with rule
  * check and download upgradable packages automatically
  * automatic unattended upgrade
 + need to install unattended-upgrades package
 + aimed for security upgrade and have its blacklist capability
 + mail capability (The extent of this, i do not know for sure?)
 
 These can be enabled via apt configuration variables (usually stored in
 /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02backup and 50unattended-upgrades).
 
 Your cron-apt packagr can function without python since it is a shell
 script but its capability is limited.
 
 So, I think it is fair to document what is the actual added value of
 this package somewhere like README so people understand why or why-not
 to install this and what to do with this.
 
 Osamu
 
 
 
 

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Bug#512880: cron-apt: Please document added value of this package

2009-01-24 Thread Osamu Aoki
Package: cron-apt
Version: 0.6.7
Severity: wishlist

Please note, APT package since 0.5.28 Ubuntu hoary and 0.5.29 Debian
unstable (Sat, 13 Nov 2004) has its own script /etc/cron.daily/apt,
which can do:
 * fancy auto-clean with rule
 * check and download upgradable packages automatically
 * automatic unattended upgrade
+ need to install unattended-upgrades package
+ aimed for security upgrade and have its blacklist capability
+ mail capability (The extent of this, i do not know for sure?)

These can be enabled via apt configuration variables (usually stored in
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02backup and 50unattended-upgrades).

Your cron-apt can run without python since it is shell script but its
capability is limitted.  

So, I think it is fair to document what is he actPlease note, APT
package since 0.5.28 Ubuntu hoary and 0.5.29 Debian
unstable (Sat, 13 Nov 2004) has its own script /etc/cron.daily/apt,
which can do:
 * fancy auto-clean with rule
 * check and download upgradable packages automatically
 * automatic unattended upgrade
+ need to install unattended-upgrades package
+ aimed for security upgrade and have its blacklist capability
+ mail capability (The extent of this, i do not know for sure?)

These can be enabled via apt configuration variables (usually stored in
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02backup and 50unattended-upgrades).
ual added value of tis package somewhere so people understand why or
why-not to install this.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (800, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-1-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages cron-apt depends on:
ii  apt   0.7.20.1   Advanced front-end for dpkg

Versions of packages cron-apt recommends:
ii  bsd-mailx [mailx]  8.1.2-0.20081101cvs-2 A simple mail user agent
ii  cron   3.0pl1-105management of regular background p
ii  liblockfile1   1.08-3NFS-safe locking library, includes
ii  mailx  1:20081101-2  Transitional package for mailx ren

cron-apt suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information



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Bug#512880: cron-apt: Please document added value of this package

2009-01-24 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

Sorry for sending mail text before proofing.

This is what it should have been:

Please note, APT package since 0.5.28 Ubuntu hoary and 0.5.29 Debian
unstable (Sat, 13 Nov 2004) has its own script /etc/cron.daily/apt,
which can do:
 * fancy auto-clean with rule
 * check and download upgradable packages automatically
 * automatic unattended upgrade
+ need to install unattended-upgrades package
+ aimed for security upgrade and have its blacklist capability
+ mail capability (The extent of this, i do not know for sure?)

These can be enabled via apt configuration variables (usually stored in
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02backup and 50unattended-upgrades).

Your cron-apt packagr can function without python since it is a shell
script but its capability is limited.

So, I think it is fair to document what is the actual added value of
this package somewhere like README so people understand why or why-not
to install this and what to do with this.

Osamu




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