Bug#515837: [PROPOSAL] add Applications/Window Management to menu sub-policy

2011-04-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 08:24:08PM +0200, Ignace Mouzannar wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am having some trouble finding the proper menu section to place my
 application Alltray [1]. Alltray lets you minimize to the system tray
 any windowed application.
 
 I found this bug report, and thought that fbpager and Alltray could
 both benefit of (and fit into) a category like: Applications/Window
 Management.
 
 I am not sure this would be the proper name to go with, but would it
 be feasible to add such a section to the menu sub-policy [2]?

Hello Ignace and Sean,

Sorry for the long delay.

Generally we need at least three apps before creating a new menu section.

The issue here is that most window management softwares are specific to a 
single window manager. In that case, they are best handled with a
window-manager-specific needs field, so they are only displayed in the
relevant window manager. This fall outside of the menu subpolicy list.
As far as I understand, this is the case of fbpager which only work in fluxbox. 

AllTray is special since it works with most window managers.
We need to find similar tools before deciding on the section name.
Maybe the package 'docker' is similar ?

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Bug#515837: [PROPOSAL] add Applications/Window Management to menu sub-policy

2011-04-05 Thread Ignace Mouzannar
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:10, Bill Allombert
bill.allomb...@math.u-bordeaux1.fr wrote:
 Hello Ignace and Sean,

 Sorry for the long delay.

 Generally we need at least three apps before creating a new menu section.

 The issue here is that most window management softwares are specific to a
 single window manager. In that case, they are best handled with a
 window-manager-specific needs field, so they are only displayed in the
 relevant window manager. This fall outside of the menu subpolicy list.
 As far as I understand, this is the case of fbpager which only work in 
 fluxbox.

 AllTray is special since it works with most window managers.
 We need to find similar tools before deciding on the section name.
 Maybe the package 'docker' is similar ?

Hello Bill,

It seems that the 'docker' package is indeed in a similar situation as
'alltray'. Its menu file indicates its section as
'Applications/Viewers', which, IMO, does not seem to fit right.

The 'stalonetray' application, a freedesktop.org and KDE systray
implementation, seems to be in a similar case too? Its menu file
indicates 'Applications/System/Administration'.

I am not sure that this could be relevant (as the package is not yet
in Debian), but I was about [1] to package Kdocker [2] that fits the
description. It is very similar to alltray, with some added features.
It use the qt libraries, but works perfectly under gnome.

Cheers,
 Ignace M

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=583796
[2] https://launchpad.net/kdocker



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Bug#515837: [PROPOSAL] add Applications/Window Management to menu sub-policy

2010-05-30 Thread Ignace Mouzannar
Hello,

I am having some trouble finding the proper menu section to place my
application Alltray [1]. Alltray lets you minimize to the system tray
any windowed application.

I found this bug report, and thought that fbpager and Alltray could
both benefit of (and fit into) a category like: Applications/Window
Management.

I am not sure this would be the proper name to go with, but would it
be feasible to add such a section to the menu sub-policy [2]?

Thank you for your consideration,
 Ignace M

[1] http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/alltray.html
[2] Below is a patch to the current menu sub-policy:
8--8
--- menu-policy.sgml.orig   2010-05-30 19:56:30.0 +0200
+++ menu-policy.sgml2010-05-30 20:14:23.0 +0200
@@ -367,6 +367,13 @@
programming, and site administration./p
 pExamples: bluefish, screem, gphpedit/p
   /item
+  tagApplications/Window Management/tag
+  item
+pTools that let you manage windows on your
+   desktop (minimizing applications to system
+   tray, pager)./p
+pExamples: alltray, fbpager/p
+  /item
/taglist
  /p
/item
8--8



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