Bug#518688: caret: debian/copyright file includes a confusing part

2009-03-08 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:18:56 +0100 Michael Hanke wrote:

[...]
 On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 12:07:36AM +0100, Francesco Poli (t1000) wrote:
[...]
  Well, I find this to be confusing and misleading.
  
  First off, the full text of the GNU GPL v2 should not be included
  in a debian/copyright file, since it may be found in
  /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2  (see Policy 12.5:
  http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s-copyrightfile)
  
  Moreover, I would like to not see the OpenContent License v1.0 text
  in the debian/copyright file of a package in main, since this license
  does *not* meet the DFSG, as explained in:
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/1999/03/msg00046.html
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/1999/03/msg00048.html
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/1999/11/msg00104.html
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/1999/11/msg00111.html
  
  I understand that no file actually included in the caret package
  is distributed under the non-free terms of the OpenContent License v1.0,
  hence this does *not* seem to be a serious bug.
  However, I think that including the full text of an extraneous license
  in the debian/copyright file of a package is confusing and misleading.
 
 First of all, it is correct that the OpenContent license refers to AFNI
 and not to Caret.

Good, thanks for confirming this.

 Therefore it is also correct that this might lead to
 confusion. However, the full quote of this file was added upon a request
 by ftp-masters, since they rejected the package previously, because of
 this missing piece of information.

This sounds strange to me: I am inclined to think that only the
relevant part of README.copyright should be quoted in the
debian/copyright file, and certainly not the full text of the GPLv2 or
of an irrelevant license!

Could you please ask ftp-masters for a clarification on this point? 

[...]
 Thanks for your interest in Caret,

You're welcome.


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Bug#518688: caret: debian/copyright file includes a confusing part

2009-03-07 Thread Francesco Poli (t1000)
Package: caret
Version: 5.6.1~dfsg.1-1
Severity: normal

Hi!
Thanks for packaging this interesting piece of software for Debian!


I took a look at the debian/copyright file and I am confused by the
Files: caret_uniformize/* section.

It says that those files are under the GNU GPL v2 or later,
which is fine, of course.

But then it quotes the following text:

  This source code has been derived from parts of the AFNI package
  (http://afni.nimh.nih.gov). The copyright statement refers to a
  'README.copyright' file, which contains the licensing terms of AFNI. This
  file is not available in the Caret source distribution, but only included in
  the binary distribution as 'copyright.afni'. A verbatim copy is provided
  here.  Note, that it also contains the licenses of all third-party code
  distributed with the AFNI package, but not within Caret.

and then goes on quoting this README.copyright file entirely, including
the full text of the GNU GPL v2 and of the OpenContent License v1.0
(that is http://opencontent.org/opl.shtml).

Well, I find this to be confusing and misleading.

First off, the full text of the GNU GPL v2 should not be included
in a debian/copyright file, since it may be found in
/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2  (see Policy 12.5:
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s-copyrightfile)

Moreover, I would like to not see the OpenContent License v1.0 text
in the debian/copyright file of a package in main, since this license
does *not* meet the DFSG, as explained in:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/1999/03/msg00046.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/1999/03/msg00048.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/1999/11/msg00104.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/1999/11/msg00111.html

I understand that no file actually included in the caret package
is distributed under the non-free terms of the OpenContent License v1.0,
hence this does *not* seem to be a serious bug.
However, I think that including the full text of an extraneous license
in the debian/copyright file of a package is confusing and misleading.


I hope the debian/copyright file can be changed into a less
confusing form.



P.S.: the Homepage: field currently points to
  http://brainmap.wustl.edu/caret, which basically 404s me...
  I think the upstream homepage moved.
  Maybe to http://brainvis.wustl.edu/wiki/index.php/Caret:About
  I suggest updating the Homepage: field.



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Bug#518688: caret: debian/copyright file includes a confusing part

2009-03-07 Thread Michael Hanke
Hi,

On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 12:07:36AM +0100, Francesco Poli (t1000) wrote:
 Package: caret
 Version: 5.6.1~dfsg.1-1
 Severity: normal
 
 Hi!
 Thanks for packaging this interesting piece of software for Debian!
 
 
 I took a look at the debian/copyright file and I am confused by the
 Files: caret_uniformize/* section.
 
 It says that those files are under the GNU GPL v2 or later,
 which is fine, of course.
 
 But then it quotes the following text:
 
   This source code has been derived from parts of the AFNI package
   (http://afni.nimh.nih.gov). The copyright statement refers to a
   'README.copyright' file, which contains the licensing terms of AFNI. This
   file is not available in the Caret source distribution, but only included in
   the binary distribution as 'copyright.afni'. A verbatim copy is provided
   here.  Note, that it also contains the licenses of all third-party code
   distributed with the AFNI package, but not within Caret.
 
 and then goes on quoting this README.copyright file entirely, including
 the full text of the GNU GPL v2 and of the OpenContent License v1.0
 (that is http://opencontent.org/opl.shtml).
 
 Well, I find this to be confusing and misleading.
 
 First off, the full text of the GNU GPL v2 should not be included
 in a debian/copyright file, since it may be found in
 /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2  (see Policy 12.5:
 http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s-copyrightfile)
 
 Moreover, I would like to not see the OpenContent License v1.0 text
 in the debian/copyright file of a package in main, since this license
 does *not* meet the DFSG, as explained in:
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/1999/03/msg00046.html
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/1999/03/msg00048.html
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/1999/11/msg00104.html
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/1999/11/msg00111.html
 
 I understand that no file actually included in the caret package
 is distributed under the non-free terms of the OpenContent License v1.0,
 hence this does *not* seem to be a serious bug.
 However, I think that including the full text of an extraneous license
 in the debian/copyright file of a package is confusing and misleading.

First of all, it is correct that the OpenContent license refers to AFNI
and not to Caret. Therefore it is also correct that this might lead to
confusion. However, the full quote of this file was added upon a request
by ftp-masters, since they rejected the package previously, because of
this missing piece of information.

 I hope the debian/copyright file can be changed into a less
 confusing form.

I guess it would be safe to add some additional notes about the
respective part of debian/copyright, but keep the full quote itself.
Please feel free to suggest an extension/rewording/rewrite. Alongside:

|  This source code has been derived from parts of the AFNI package
|  (http://afni.nimh.nih.gov). The copyright statement refers to a
|  'README.copyright' file, which contains the licensing terms of AFNI. This
|  file is not available in the Caret source distribution, but only included in
|  the binary distribution as 'copyright.afni'. A verbatim copy is provided
|  here.  Note, that it also contains the licenses of all third-party code
|  distributed with the AFNI package, but not within Caret.


 P.S.: the Homepage: field currently points to
   http://brainmap.wustl.edu/caret, which basically 404s me...
   I think the upstream homepage moved.
   Maybe to http://brainvis.wustl.edu/wiki/index.php/Caret:About
   I suggest updating the Homepage: field.

That is also correct. The package spend quite a while in new and
upstream changed lots of stuff ;-)

I have a new package prepared that is basically waiting for #516756
to be resolved. Whenever that is done I'll upload.


Thanks for your interest in Caret,

Michael

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