Bug#519235: pdfsam: requires openjdk-6-jre, but works with sun-6-jre

2009-03-12 Thread Tomasz Nowak
Hi,
I read the descriptions of severities and assumed that dowloading and 
installing over 200 MB of unnecessary software has major effect on the 
usability, but please excuse me if I was wrong. 
I don't want the package to depend on sun-jre, but on the virtual 
java-virtual-machine or so.
Best regards
TN



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Bug#519235: pdfsam: requires openjdk-6-jre, but works with sun-6-jre

2009-03-12 Thread Eric Lavarde

Hi,

Miguel Landaeta wrote:

Again, I do not agree, I think it would be perfectly allowed and user
friendly to have alternatives: openjdk-6-jre | sun-java6-jre |
sun-java5-jre | java2-runtime


I would not prefer to depend explicitly on sun-java?-jre (even if this
is optional).
I would prefer this package just depends on openjdk-6-jre | java2-runtime.
I think that's perfectly valid, it's just _my_ way to say that my 
package won't work with a classpath based runtime.


Eric

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Bug#519235: pdfsam: requires openjdk-6-jre, but works with sun-6-jre

2009-03-11 Thread TomaszN
Package: pdfsam
Severity: important

I am using the Sun JDK/JRE and don't want to install OpenJDK to use pdfsam. 
Pdfsam works with Sun Java.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-1-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=pl_PL.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=pl_PL.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash



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Bug#519235: pdfsam: requires openjdk-6-jre, but works with sun-6-jre

2009-03-11 Thread Eric Lavarde

Hi Miguel,

Miguel Landaeta wrote:

severity 519235 wishlist
thanks

Hi,

This is not a important bug.
You can check this: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities

This bug probably has minor or wishlist severity.
I do not fully agree: pdfsam doesn't follow the Java Policy, which 
states in 2.3. Java programs that Programs must depend on 
java-virtual-machine and the needed runtime environment (java1-runtime 
and/or java2-runtime). This together with the sentence about virtual 
machines stating that Java virtual machines must provide 
java-virtual-machine and depend on java-common. They can also provide 
the runtime environment that the package contains (java1-runtime and/or 
java2-runtime). If it does not provide the files itself it must depend 
on the needed runtime environment. means that programs must depend on 
specific vm | java-virtual-machine and on specific runtime | 
javaN-runtime (the fact that most jre provide both at once is IMHO a 
weakness of the policy, but we don't want to redo the world here).


Given the fact that the Java Policy is only a proposal (since how many 
years?), one could discuss if it makes it a policy breach. I let you 
decide :-)




Regards,

PD: also due to license issues, if this package depends on sun-java5-jre,
then it can not be in Debian main so it would not be available to many
Debian users who don't include contrib and non-free in /etc/apt/sources.list.
Again, I do not agree, I think it would be perfectly allowed and user 
friendly to have alternatives: openjdk-6-jre | sun-java6-jre | 
sun-java5-jre | java2-runtime


Eric



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