Bug#525222: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#525222: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE
I'm leaving the bug open until we decide wether it makes sense or not to add hal to thunar-volman recommends/dependencies. Looking at the thunar-volman code, I think it should definitely add a dependency on hal, as it will be basically useless without. Sure, but isn't thunar-volman useless without thunar anyway (thunar already recommends the hal daemon)? thunar-volman depends on thunar, which depends on libc6, so there's no way you could install thunar-volman without pulling libc6. Still, libc6 is added as an explicit dependency on thunar-volman because without it, thunar-volman could never run. From that point of view, both options (add to thunar-volman or leave the current behavior) look reasonable. Does thunar use hal for something else than acting as a dependency proxy to thunar-volman ? Because if it doesn't, then the recommendation on hal should be moved to thunal-volman. -- Xr This address only accepts mails from a restricted set of BTS and ML.
Bug#525222: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#525222: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE
On lun, 2009-04-27 at 08:39 +0200, Xr wrote: thunar-volman depends on thunar, which depends on libc6, so there's no way you could install thunar-volman without pulling libc6. Still, libc6 is added as an explicit dependency on thunar-volman because without it, thunar-volman could never run. From that point of view, both options (add to thunar-volman or leave the current behavior) look reasonable. Does thunar use hal for something else than acting as a dependency proxy to thunar-volman ? Because if it doesn't, then the recommendation on hal should be moved to thunal-volman. thunar-volman just automount stuff. Thunar needs hal to see the device events and reacts (showing it in the pane or asking thunar-volman what to do). Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#525222: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE
On dim, 2009-04-26 at 13:24 +1000, Jonathan Hepburn wrote: The problem appears to have resolved itself now, after installing consolekit. I suggest that a dependency or suggestion be added to thunar-volman. hal already depends on consolekit. I'm leaving the bug open until we decide wether it makes sense or not to add hal to thunar-volman recommends/dependencies. Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#525222: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez cor...@debian.org wrote: On dim, 2009-04-26 at 13:24 +1000, Jonathan Hepburn wrote: The problem appears to have resolved itself now, after installing consolekit. I suggest that a dependency or suggestion be added to thunar-volman. hal already depends on consolekit. I'm leaving the bug open until we decide wether it makes sense or not to add hal to thunar-volman recommends/dependencies. That's quite odd. Has Hal been updated recently? I definitely did not have consolekit installed when I first filed this bug, and Hal had been working fine. Has consolekit only been added as a dependency in the testing repositories in the past week or so? I note that libhal is already a dependency for thunar-volman. My question as a user is: Is hal required for thunar-volman to automount drives? If yes, I would vote for adding it as a dependency. If hal is not required but does add extra features, or is one of several ways that thunar-volman may enable automounting, I would vote for adding it as a recommendation. I have in the past sworn at debian developers who did not add a recommendation, forcing me to sift through google to discover where my missing functionality was. As a courtesy to non-developer users, I request erring on the side of listing a recommendation, but NOT a dependency, which can lead to bloat. Slainte, Jonathan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#525222: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE
Jonathan Hepburn wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez cor...@debian.org wrote: On dim, 2009-04-26 at 13:24 +1000, Jonathan Hepburn wrote: The problem appears to have resolved itself now, after installing consolekit. I suggest that a dependency or suggestion be added to thunar-volman. hal already depends on consolekit. I'm leaving the bug open until we decide wether it makes sense or not to add hal to thunar-volman recommends/dependencies. Looking at the thunar-volman code, I think it should definitely add a dependency on hal, as it will be basically useless without. Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#525222: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE
On lun, 2009-04-27 at 02:03 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: I'm leaving the bug open until we decide wether it makes sense or not to add hal to thunar-volman recommends/dependencies. Looking at the thunar-volman code, I think it should definitely add a dependency on hal, as it will be basically useless without. Sure, but isn't thunar-volman useless without thunar anyway (thunar already recommends the hal daemon)? Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#525222: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE
The problem appears to have resolved itself now, after installing consolekit. I suggest that a dependency or suggestion be added to thunar-volman. Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: reassign 525222 thunar-volman thanks Jonathan Hepburn wrote: I use thunar-volman 0.3.80-2. Ok, reassigning then. Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#525222: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE
Jonathan Hepburn wrote: The problem appears to have resolved itself now, after installing consolekit. I suggest that a dependency or suggestion be added to thunar-volman. Not really. hal 0.5.12 uses either static groups (plugdev/netdev/powerdev) to control access to the D-Bus service, or the at_console policy (which is provided by consolekit). My guess is, that your user wasn't part of the plugdev group, and consolekit fixed that by providing at_console. The new version of hal will use PolicyKit, so this shouldn't be an issue anymore and thunar-volman does not need to add any dependency. Cheers, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#525222: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE
Subject: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE Package: hal Version: 0.5.11-8 Severity: important Additional to bug #476260: I run XFCE. A few days ago, HAL stopped automounting devices which identify as USB mass storage. A card reader still automounts removable memory cards. Attaching a USB memory stick, or a Nokia which is identified as a USB memory stick, does not work. Running # hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes 21 Results in absolutely no response when the USB device is plugged in. dmesg says: usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 11 usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice scsi11 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 11 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning scsi 11:0:0:0: Direct-Access USBDisk RunDisk 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] 2002000 512-byte hardware sectors: (1.02 GB/977 MiB) sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Write Protect is off sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Mode Sense: 0b 00 00 08 sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Assuming drive cache: write through sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] 2002000 512-byte hardware sectors: (1.02 GB/977 MiB) sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Write Protect is off sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Mode Sense: 0b 00 00 08 sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Assuming drive cache: write through sdf: sdf1 sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Attached SCSI removable disk sd 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 0 usb-storage: device scan complete Mounting manually works fine. -- System Information: Debian Release: squeeze/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.28.2 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages hal depends on: ii adduser 3.110add and remove users and groups ii dbus1.2.12-1 simple interprocess messaging syst ii hal-info20090309-1 Hardware Abstraction Layer - fdi f ii libc6 2.9-4GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libdbus-1-3 1.2.12-1 simple interprocess messaging syst ii libdbus-glib-1-20.80-3 simple interprocess messaging syst ii libexpat1 2.0.1-4 XML parsing C library - runtime li ii libgcc1 1:4.3.3-3GCC support library ii libglib2.0-02.20.0-2 The GLib library of C routines ii libhal-storage1 0.5.11-8 Hardware Abstraction Layer - share ii libhal1 0.5.11-8 Hardware Abstraction Layer - share ii libsmbios2 2.0.3.dfsg-1 Provide access to (SM)BIOS informa ii libstdc++6 4.3.3-3 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libusb-0.1-42:0.1.12-13 userspace USB programming library ii libvolume-id0 0.125-7 libvolume_id shared library ii lsb-base3.2-22 Linux Standard Base 3.2 init scrip ii mount 2.13.1.1-1 Tools for mounting and manipulatin ii pciutils1:3.1.2-3Linux PCI Utilities ii pm-utils1.2.4-2 utilities and scripts for power ma ii udev0.125-7 /dev/ and hotplug management daemo ii usbutils0.73-10 Linux USB utilities Versions of packages hal recommends: ii eject 2.1.5+deb1+cvs20081104-5 ejects CDs and operates CD-Changer ii libsmbios-bin 2.0.3.dfsg-1 Provide access to (SM)BIOS informa Versions of packages hal suggests: ii gnome-device-manager 0.2-3 GNOME device manager based on HAL -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#525222: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE
Jonathan Hepburn wrote: Subject: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE Package: hal Version: 0.5.11-8 Severity: important Additional to bug #476260: I run XFCE. A few days ago, HAL stopped automounting devices which identify as USB mass storage. A card reader still automounts removable memory cards. Attaching a USB memory stick, or a Nokia which is identified as a USB memory stick, does not work. Running # hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes 21 Results in absolutely no response when the USB device is plugged in. dmesg says: usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 11 usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice scsi11 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 11 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning scsi 11:0:0:0: Direct-Access USBDisk RunDisk 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] 2002000 512-byte hardware sectors: (1.02 GB/977 MiB) sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Write Protect is off sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Mode Sense: 0b 00 00 08 sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Assuming drive cache: write through sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] 2002000 512-byte hardware sectors: (1.02 GB/977 MiB) sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Write Protect is off sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Mode Sense: 0b 00 00 08 sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Assuming drive cache: write through sdf: sdf1 sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Attached SCSI removable disk sd 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 0 usb-storage: device scan complete That looks ok so far. Which automounter do you use, gnome-volume-manager (which version)? Do you have consolekit installed (which version)? Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#525222: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE
reassign 525222 thunar-volman thanks Jonathan Hepburn wrote: I use thunar-volman 0.3.80-2. Ok, reassigning then. Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#525222: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: Jonathan Hepburn wrote: Subject: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE Package: hal Version: 0.5.11-8 Severity: important Additional to bug #476260: I run XFCE. A few days ago, HAL stopped automounting devices which identify as USB mass storage. A card reader still automounts removable memory cards. Attaching a USB memory stick, or a Nokia which is identified as a USB memory stick, does not work. Running # hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes 21 Results in absolutely no response when the USB device is plugged in. dmesg says: usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 11 usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice scsi11 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 11 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning scsi 11:0:0:0: Direct-Access USBDisk RunDisk 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] 2002000 512-byte hardware sectors: (1.02 GB/977 MiB) sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Write Protect is off sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Mode Sense: 0b 00 00 08 sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Assuming drive cache: write through sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] 2002000 512-byte hardware sectors: (1.02 GB/977 MiB) sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Write Protect is off sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Mode Sense: 0b 00 00 08 sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Assuming drive cache: write through sdf: sdf1 sd 11:0:0:0: [sdf] Attached SCSI removable disk sd 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 0 usb-storage: device scan complete That looks ok so far. Which automounter do you use, gnome-volume-manager (which version)? Do you have consolekit installed (which version)? Do not have consolekit installed. I use thunar-volman 0.3.80-2. Jonathan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#525222: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Processed: Re: Bug#525222: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE
On jeu, 2009-04-23 at 03:03 +, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: reassign 525222 thunar-volman Bug#525222: USB devices do not trigger any response from hal - XFCE Bug reassigned from package `hal' to `thunar-volman'. Looking at the bug page, you don't have any answer from hal when inserting mass storage stuff (while your card reader seems to work fine?). What gives lshal -m when you insert an usb key or any mass storage device? How is thunar-volman configured? You mention that consolekit isn't installed. Could you try installing it? Because I guess you don't have anymore the hal/dbus permissions which were associated to the powerdev group. Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
