Bug#556877: sane-utils: Template advice could be a little more helpful

2009-11-18 Thread Julien BLACHE
Brian Potkin claremont...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

 An explicit mention somewhere of the role avahi plays would have clued me in
 to how this is achieved and saved me a bit of time. As it happens I use

Unfortunately that template is already too long to fit in a standard
terminal, so making it longer was not really an option :/

 --no-install-recommends with apt-get and got network scanning going by
 configuring the client, so I never found out whether mDNS discovery works.
 With avahi-daemon demoted to a 'Suggests' in Sid it might be beneficial to
 modify the advice to users.

The mDNS support is unfinished in a number of ways, so unless I can get
back to working on it, I'm probably going to disable it for Squeeze.

Currently the discovery in the net backend doesn't work very well; it's
racy and there are issues with updating the device list at runtime that
render the whole mDNS thing not very useful in the end. Also I haven't
received any feedback about it; I worked on this to make the user
experience on the desktop better, but it didn't pick up.

mDNS would probably works best if integrated in the application rather
than in the backend :/

JB.

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Bug#556912: Bug#556877: sane-utils: Template advice could be a little more helpful

2009-11-18 Thread Brian Potkin
On Wed 18 Nov 2009 at 12:36:13 +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:

 The mDNS support is unfinished in a number of ways, so unless I can get
 back to working on it, I'm probably going to disable it for Squeeze.

I'd suggest altering the template then to reflect this.
 
 Currently the discovery in the net backend doesn't work very well; it's
 racy and there are issues with updating the device list at runtime that
 render the whole mDNS thing not very useful in the end. Also I haven't
 received any feedback about it; I worked on this to make the user
 experience on the desktop better, but it didn't pick up.

After installing avahi-daemon my very quick and hurried look this morning
at mDNS discovery wasn't very successful. Avahi-discover on another machine
could see saned running but xsane didn't find any scanner.

Regards,

Brian.



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Bug#556912: Bug#556877: sane-utils: Template advice could be a little more helpful

2009-11-18 Thread Julien BLACHE
Brian Potkin br...@copernicus.demon.co.uk wrote:

Hi,

 After installing avahi-daemon my very quick and hurried look this morning
 at mDNS discovery wasn't very successful. Avahi-discover on another machine
 could see saned running but xsane didn't find any scanner.

Yes, it's a race between the Avahi discovery and the backend startup.

JB.

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Bug#556877: sane-utils: Template advice could be a little more helpful

2009-11-17 Thread Brian Potkin
Package: sane-utils
Version: 1.0.19-23
Severity: normal

Part of the 'Enable saned as a standalone server?' section of the sane-utils
template says:

 When run in standalone mode, saned advertises itself on the network and
 can be detected automatically by the SANE clients with no configuration
 on the client side.

An explicit mention somewhere of the role avahi plays would have clued me in
to how this is achieved and saved me a bit of time. As it happens I use
--no-install-recommends with apt-get and got network scanning going by
configuring the client, so I never found out whether mDNS discovery works.
With avahi-daemon demoted to a 'Suggests' in Sid it might be beneficial to
modify the advice to users.

Saned works brilliantly. Thanks for your contribution to making my scanning
experience more pleasurable.

Regards,

Brian.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0.3
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.ISO-8859-15, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.ISO-8859-15 (charmap=ISO-8859-15)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages sane-utils depends on:
ii  adduser   3.110  add and remove users and groups
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.24 Debian configuration management sy
ii  libavahi-client3  0.6.23-3lenny1 Avahi client library
ii  libavahi-common3  0.6.23-3lenny1 Avahi common library
ii  libc6 2.7-18 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libieee1284-3 0.2.11-5   cross-platform library for paralle
ii  libsane   1.0.19-23  API library for scanners
ii  libusb-0.1-4  2:0.1.12-13userspace USB programming library
ii  update-inetd  4.31   inetd configuration file updater

Versions of packages sane-utils recommends:
pn  avahi-daemon  none (no description available)

Versions of packages sane-utils suggests:
pn  unpaper   none (no description available)

-- debconf information:
* sane-utils/saned_run: true
* sane-utils/saned_scanner_group: true



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