Bug#570053: ITA: blender -- Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer
Rafael Cunha de Almeida raf...@kontesti.me (17/05/2010): Hello Cyril, Hello, I'm CCing this e-mail to you just to ask, when you say Enable the security patch again. what patch are you talking about? I looked at unstable's patches directory for the word security, but I didn't find anything. Is that some debian terminology I'm not familiar with? that'd be 02_tmp_in_HOME, which has been submitted upstream a long long long time ago and never got merged. The idea is that by default, a file named /tmp/quit.blend (IIRC) is created when the session ends. Also, temporary files are created in /tmp without any of the usual flags to prevent symlink attacks and the like. This patch was aimed at putting everything temporary under user's $HOME instead. - Finally move 2.50 alpha 0 to unstable. Apparently, it's more GPU-intensive than 2.49 so you may want to take extra care if you want to move 2.50 to unstable. Some users might not be able to use Blender at all, like say Intel users. Good luck with everything. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#570053: ITA: blender -- Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer
Hi Rafael and Cyril, Rafael Cunha de Almeida wrote, On 17/05/2010 07:38: Hello Cyril, I'm CCing this e-mail to you just to ask, when you say Enable the security patch again. what patch are you talking about? I looked at unstable's patches directory for the word security, but I didn't find anything. Is that some debian terminology I'm not familiar with? AFAIK, I think it's the patch 02_tmp_in_HOME in 2.49+dfsg-2 branch. It change the way blender save quit.blend into /tmp by saving it in ~/.blender/ . If it's this one, there is an upstream patch to review at http://projects.blender.org/tracker/?func=detailatid=127aid=22339group_id=9 . On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:56:42PM +0200, Kevin Roy wrote: Rafael Cunha de Almeida wrote, On 14/05/2010 03:45: Cool, I think I can use some help :-). I'm not sure how to add two maintainers to a project, but we can figure it out later. Actually I'm completely new about the Debian packaging world and I am still learning how it works. So I can work and contribute on the git and let you the uploads thing. Hello Kevin, Alright, I have been maintaining a patch, but I'm no expert either. Do you have jabber (it works on google talk as well)? Maybe you could add me: r...@jabber-br.org. That way we have faster communication. Yes I'm using my google account to jabber a lot and I've just added you ;) Here is my github clone : git://github.com/kiniou/blender-debian.git I forgot to tell I'm working/developping with Ubuntu Lucid actually but i'm looking to build with pbuilder and Debian mirror. This is why i've got a branch called ubuntu-lucid. I think that if you are chrooting to a debian tree it shouldn't matter if you use ubuntu or debian. My name on github is aflag: github.com/aflag. Can you add me to that project so we can both make changes to that repository? I've added you as well. I have changed minor things on top of your modifications. I added a changelog entry and I've created the file debian/source/format. You need to add yourself to the changelog as well, take a look on dch to know how to add new entries on that file. I think a dch -a will work once you have your email and name configurated correctly. For now, my modifications are at: http://kontesti.me/~rafael/debian/blender/blender.git if you want to check out. I'm checking it out :) . BTW I've created a launchpad PPA at https://launchpad.net/~kiniou/+archive/ppa . Strange ... the build failed for me at the linking process because of openjpeg missing header. It failed only with pbuilder but not with dpkg-buildpackage and so far I did not find any clue about this issue. That is strange. I haven't been using pbuilder, but I use debuild directly. I'm not sure why it wouldn't work with pbuilder. I'm not sure what that openjpeg library does, but if it adds feature to blender, it's nice to leave it on. The libopenjpeg is used in the imbuf module which handles Texture formats in blender. I just add -lopenjpeg in the root CMakeLists.txt and pbuilder finally complete the build. BTW, why did you add OPTION(WITH_BUILDINFO Include extra build details ON) OPTION(WITH_INSTALL Install accompanying scripts and language files needed to run blender ON) I don't think there was new scripts added to it with WITH_INSTALL option. Those options are ON by default on my svn checkout. The WITH_INSTALL option is needed to install all python scripts and locales in /usr/share/blender/2.5/ (cf. source/creator/CMakeLists.txt +108) but i don't know if it's the right place for install. The WITH_BUILDINFO just add build information like date, svn revision ... (cf. source/creator/CMakeLists.txt +90) so it's safe to leave it ON. I have been talking to people on IRC and it seems that blender internationalization isn't really ready yet. It seems like English is really the only option available. There's this guy named bdiego who seems to work with that. Perhaps he can give us some pointers as to how internationalization will work. However, I think we could just drop it altogether for now (/usr/share/blender/2.5/locale isn't even the right place for that to be, it should be at /usr/share/locale.) This seems not to be a big priority upstream, but it may be trivial to fix this and send a patch to them. I'll take a look at it. I think we should figure out our TODO list so we can divide the work to be done between us. The original TODO: - Enable the security patch again. = asking KiBi about it. I can check if the upstream patch works. - Maybe double-check localization. = seems like there's no localization for now. Ask bdiego about it. - Check building within unstable. - Finally move 2.50 alpha 0 to unstable. 2.6 will be the stabilised version of blender according to upstream roadmap http://www.blender.org/development/release-logs/blender-250/. It may be better to stick with 2.5 in experimental and package 2.6 in unstable when
Bug#570053: ITA: blender -- Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer
Hello Cyril, I'm CCing this e-mail to you just to ask, when you say Enable the security patch again. what patch are you talking about? I looked at unstable's patches directory for the word security, but I didn't find anything. Is that some debian terminology I'm not familiar with? On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:56:42PM +0200, Kevin Roy wrote: Rafael Cunha de Almeida wrote, On 14/05/2010 03:45: Cool, I think I can use some help :-). I'm not sure how to add two maintainers to a project, but we can figure it out later. Actually I'm completely new about the Debian packaging world and I am still learning how it works. So I can work and contribute on the git and let you the uploads thing. Hello Kevin, Alright, I have been maintaining a patch, but I'm no expert either. Do you have jabber (it works on google talk as well)? Maybe you could add me: r...@jabber-br.org. That way we have faster communication. I've already cloned the git repository located at http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/blender.git;a=summary and I'm actually playing with it :). Here is my github clone : git://github.com/kiniou/blender-debian.git I forgot to tell I'm working/developping with Ubuntu Lucid actually but i'm looking to build with pbuilder and Debian mirror. This is why i've got a branch called ubuntu-lucid. I think that if you are chrooting to a debian tree it shouldn't matter if you use ubuntu or debian. My name on github is aflag: github.com/aflag. Can you add me to that project so we can both make changes to that repository? I have changed minor things on top of your modifications. I added a changelog entry and I've created the file debian/source/format. You need to add yourself to the changelog as well, take a look on dch to know how to add new entries on that file. I think a dch -a will work once you have your email and name configurated correctly. For now, my modifications are at: http://kontesti.me/~rafael/debian/blender/blender.git if you want to check out. Yes, when I wrote that either there wasn't a alpha 2, or I did a poor job looking at the site :P. Anyway, I'm trying to compile alpha 2 now, which can be found at: https://svn.blender.org/svnroot/bf-blender/tags/blender-2.52-release/ you probably know that already. I'll have more time to work on this package on the weekend, for now I've played with it enough to see that I'll need to figure out about Collada. Right now blender is failing to compile due to missing collada headers. Strange ... the build failed for me at the linking process because of openjpeg missing header. It failed only with pbuilder but not with dpkg-buildpackage and so far I did not find any clue about this issue. That is strange. I haven't been using pbuilder, but I use debuild directly. I'm not sure why it wouldn't work with pbuilder. I'm not sure what that openjpeg library does, but if it adds feature to blender, it's nice to leave it on. BTW, why did you add OPTION(WITH_BUILDINFO Include extra build details ON) OPTION(WITH_INSTALL Install accompanying scripts and language files needed to run blender ON) I don't think there was new scripts added to it with WITH_INSTALL option. I have been talking to people on IRC and it seems that blender internationalization isn't really ready yet. It seems like English is really the only option available. There's this guy named bdiego who seems to work with that. Perhaps he can give us some pointers as to how internationalization will work. However, I think we could just drop it altogether for now (/usr/share/blender/2.5/locale isn't even the right place for that to be, it should be at /usr/share/locale.) I think we should figure out our TODO list so we can divide the work to be done between us. The original TODO: - Enable the security patch again. = asking KiBi about it. - Maybe double-check localization. = seems like there's no localization for now. Ask bdiego about it. - Check building within unstable. - Finally move 2.50 alpha 0 to unstable. Next step I think is checking each of the current bugs to see if upstream mentions fixing them and also check if we can reproduce the bugs. Then we can update changelog as needed. Collada seems to be needed in order to export blender projects to a XML format. It's possible to compile blender without it, but I think it would be much better to support it. Unfortunately I don't see collada (or opencollada) in debian's repository. Do you know anything about this issue? I remember that Collada export was done with some python script in 2.49 and I think it could be ported to 2.5 but maybe it's worth packaging opencollada. Anyway for now I disabled it in the patch 10_build_configuration for tests. Yes, I talked to KiBi on IRC and I think we're better off leaving that support out for now. It'd utimately require opencollada package to be created and maintained on debian. That's a thing
Bug#570053: ITA: blender -- Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer
Rafael Cunha de Almeida wrote, On 14/05/2010 03:45: Cool, I think I can use some help :-). I'm not sure how to add two maintainers to a project, but we can figure it out later. Actually I'm completely new about the Debian packaging world and I am still learning how it works. So I can work and contribute on the git and let you the uploads thing. I've already cloned the git repository located at http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/blender.git;a=summary and I'm actually playing with it :). Here is my github clone : git://github.com/kiniou/blender-debian.git I forgot to tell I'm working/developping with Ubuntu Lucid actually but i'm looking to build with pbuilder and Debian mirror. This is why i've got a branch called ubuntu-lucid. Yes, when I wrote that either there wasn't a alpha 2, or I did a poor job looking at the site :P. Anyway, I'm trying to compile alpha 2 now, which can be found at: https://svn.blender.org/svnroot/bf-blender/tags/blender-2.52-release/ you probably know that already. I'll have more time to work on this package on the weekend, for now I've played with it enough to see that I'll need to figure out about Collada. Right now blender is failing to compile due to missing collada headers. Strange ... the build failed for me at the linking process because of openjpeg missing header. It failed only with pbuilder but not with dpkg-buildpackage and so far I did not find any clue about this issue. Collada seems to be needed in order to export blender projects to a XML format. It's possible to compile blender without it, but I think it would be much better to support it. Unfortunately I don't see collada (or opencollada) in debian's repository. Do you know anything about this issue? I remember that Collada export was done with some python script in 2.49 and I think it could be ported to 2.5 but maybe it's worth packaging opencollada. Anyway for now I disabled it in the patch 10_build_configuration for tests. --- Kevin Roy http://blog.knokorpo.fr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#570053: ITA: blender -- Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 05:21:42PM +0200, Kevin Roy wrote: Hi Rafael and Cyril I also would like to help and adopt blender. Since a few months, I've updated blender svn on almost a daily basis to keep track of Blender Python API changes for my scripts and to contribute with patches. Lately I've started to think about building debian package to understand how it's done then I found this bug report. Cool, I think I can use some help :-). I'm not sure how to add two maintainers to a project, but we can figure it out later. I've already cloned the git repository located at http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/blender.git;a=summary and I'm actually playing with it :). Rafael Cunha de Almeida wrote, On 10/05/2010 22:13: I want to adopt this package. Should I work with the package in experimental or is there a public repository that would be a better source? I think the first step is getting the new blender 2.50 alpha 1 to work. Do you recommend doing something before first? According to recent annoucements, blender 2.5 alpha 2 has a bugfixed about texture images not saved in .blend files. Yes, when I wrote that either there wasn't a alpha 2, or I did a poor job looking at the site :P. Anyway, I'm trying to compile alpha 2 now, which can be found at: https://svn.blender.org/svnroot/bf-blender/tags/blender-2.52-release/ you probably know that already. I'll have more time to work on this package on the weekend, for now I've played with it enough to see that I'll need to figure out about Collada. Right now blender is failing to compile due to missing collada headers. Collada seems to be needed in order to export blender projects to a XML format. It's possible to compile blender without it, but I think it would be much better to support it. Unfortunately I don't see collada (or opencollada) in debian's repository. Do you know anything about this issue? Regards, Rafael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#570053: ITA: blender -- Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer
Hi Rafael and Cyril I also would like to help and adopt blender. Since a few months, I've updated blender svn on almost a daily basis to keep track of Blender Python API changes for my scripts and to contribute with patches. Lately I've started to think about building debian package to understand how it's done then I found this bug report. I've already cloned the git repository located at http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/blender.git;a=summary and I'm actually playing with it :). Rafael Cunha de Almeida wrote, On 10/05/2010 22:13: I want to adopt this package. Should I work with the package in experimental or is there a public repository that would be a better source? I think the first step is getting the new blender 2.50 alpha 1 to work. Do you recommend doing something before first? According to recent annoucements, blender 2.5 alpha 2 has a bugfixed about texture images not saved in .blend files. Cheers --- Kevin Roy http://blog.knokorpo.fr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#570053: ITA: blender -- Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer
Hello, I want to adopt this package. Should I work with the package in experimental or is there a public repository that would be a better source? I think the first step is getting the new blender 2.50 alpha 1 to work. Do you recommend doing something before first? []'s Rafael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#570053: ITA: blender -- Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer
Hi Rafael, On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 08:13:53PM +, Rafael Cunha de Almeida wrote: I want to adopt this package. Should I work with the package in experimental or is there a public repository that would be a better source? There is http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/blender.git;a=summary. I think the first step is getting the new blender 2.50 alpha 1 to work. Do you recommend doing something before first? Cannot help you on that one, though. I was not involved in any blender packaging, so Cyril has to answer that question. Cheers, Sebastian -- Sebastian tokkee Harl +++ GnuPG-ID: 0x8501C7FC +++ http://tokkee.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin signature.asc Description: Digital signature
