Bug#575012: x86 architecture names are confusing

2011-01-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Julien Cristau, le Sat 08 Jan 2011 19:23:58 +0100, a écrit :
> This has now been changed in the release-notes and webwml.  Can somebody
> take care of the installation guide?

This is done in the installation guide. Just pending the translation
bits and an upload.

Samuel



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Bug#575012: x86 architecture names are confusing

2011-01-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 23:07:04 +, Ben Hutchings wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:09:24PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> > tags 575012 wontfix
> > severity 575012 wishlist
> > thanks
> >
> > On Monday 22 March 2010, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > The current installation and download links referring to 'AMD64'
> > > sometimes confuse users with Intel x86-64 chips, who instead select
> > > 'IA64'.  This is a waste of time and bandwidth for all concerned.
> > >
> > > The name 'Intel x86' is also inaccurate in that the i386 architecture
> > > runs on 32-bit x86 processors from many vendors.
> > >
> > > I recommend the names '32-bit PC' and '64-bit PC'.
> > 
> > It's a known issue and I appreciate your concern, but I'm not going to 
> > change this exclusively in the installation guide.
> > 
> > The installation guide currently simply follows the terminology used for in 
> > general for the project.
> > 
> > If it needs to be changed, then it needs to be done (in a coordinated 
> > fashion) for the whole distribution and not just for a single document.
> 
> The two places I see these long names are the installation guide and the
> release notes.  Download pages all seem to use the short names, but that's
> a different bug.
> 
> Tagging this 'wontfix' is simply obstructive, given you agree this should
> be fixed - even if not immediately.
> 
This has now been changed in the release-notes and webwml.  Can somebody
take care of the installation guide?

Cheers,
Julien


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Bug#575012: x86 architecture names are confusing

2010-03-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:09:24PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> tags 575012 wontfix
> severity 575012 wishlist
> thanks
>
> On Monday 22 March 2010, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > The current installation and download links referring to 'AMD64'
> > sometimes confuse users with Intel x86-64 chips, who instead select
> > 'IA64'.  This is a waste of time and bandwidth for all concerned.
> >
> > The name 'Intel x86' is also inaccurate in that the i386 architecture
> > runs on 32-bit x86 processors from many vendors.
> >
> > I recommend the names '32-bit PC' and '64-bit PC'.
> 
> It's a known issue and I appreciate your concern, but I'm not going to 
> change this exclusively in the installation guide.
> 
> The installation guide currently simply follows the terminology used for in 
> general for the project.
> 
> If it needs to be changed, then it needs to be done (in a coordinated 
> fashion) for the whole distribution and not just for a single document.

The two places I see these long names are the installation guide and the
release notes.  Download pages all seem to use the short names, but that's
a different bug.

Tagging this 'wontfix' is simply obstructive, given you agree this should
be fixed - even if not immediately.

Ben.

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Ben Hutchings
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Bug#575012: x86 architecture names are confusing

2010-03-22 Thread Frans Pop
tags 575012 wontfix
severity 575012 wishlist
thanks

On Monday 22 March 2010, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> The current installation and download links referring to 'AMD64'
> sometimes confuse users with Intel x86-64 chips, who instead select
> 'IA64'.  This is a waste of time and bandwidth for all concerned.
>
> The name 'Intel x86' is also inaccurate in that the i386 architecture
> runs on 32-bit x86 processors from many vendors.
>
> I recommend the names '32-bit PC' and '64-bit PC'.

It's a known issue and I appreciate your concern, but I'm not going to 
change this exclusively in the installation guide.

The installation guide currently simply follows the terminology used for in 
general for the project.

If it needs to be changed, then it needs to be done (in a coordinated 
fashion) for the whole distribution and not just for a single document.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#575012: x86 architecture names are confusing

2010-03-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: installation-guide
Version: 20090901
Severity: important

The current installation and download links referring to 'AMD64' sometimes
confuse users with Intel x86-64 chips, who instead select 'IA64'.  This is
a waste of time and bandwidth for all concerned.

The name 'Intel x86' is also inaccurate in that the i386 architecture runs
on 32-bit x86 processors from many vendors.

I recommend the names '32-bit PC' and '64-bit PC'.

Ben.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0.4
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (500, 'stable'), (100, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash



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