Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On 4 September 2010 15:21, Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:09, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl toli...@debian.org wrote: Hi! Am 03.06.2010 13:22, schrieb Evan Dandrea: Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea: I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop file. Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator? Yes, that sounds good to me. Great, will do! One question though. Are you requiring that we change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages? Could it be, that I forgot to anser this mail? Sorry. We would prefer, if both source and binary package would have the same name. Dmitrijs, Evan and the Usb-creator Hackers team, would you be willing to change the name of the package upstream? Or should startup-disk-creator be a Debian specific change? Cheers, Ignace M I did have a branch somewhere with a rename fake transitional packages for Ubuntu. I'll try to get it up for review soon. But probably it will be merged after 10.10 is released (on the other hand Lenny is frozen. so it is harder to get startup-disk-creator into Lenny with every passing day) Fortunately I have finished my studies and can come back to hacking. With regards, Dmitrijs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:09, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl toli...@debian.org wrote: Hi! Am 03.06.2010 13:22, schrieb Evan Dandrea: Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea: I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop file. Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator? Yes, that sounds good to me. Great, will do! One question though. Are you requiring that we change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages? Could it be, that I forgot to anser this mail? Sorry. We would prefer, if both source and binary package would have the same name. Dmitrijs, Evan and the Usb-creator Hackers team, would you be willing to change the name of the package upstream? Or should startup-disk-creator be a Debian specific change? Cheers, Ignace M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
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Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
Hi! Am 03.06.2010 13:22, schrieb Evan Dandrea: Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea: I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop file. Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator? Yes, that sounds good to me. Great, will do! One question though. Are you requiring that we change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages? Could it be, that I forgot to anser this mail? Sorry. We would prefer, if both source and binary package would have the same name. Best regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl toli...@debian.org wrote: Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea: I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop file. Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator? Yes, that sounds good to me. Great, will do! One question though. Are you requiring that we change the name of the source package as well as the binary packages? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
Hi! Am 27.05.2010 13:47, schrieb Evan Dandrea: I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop file. Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator? Yes, that sounds good to me. Best regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On 05/27/2010 12:53 AM, Ignace Mouzannar wrote: Besides, FTP-masters could not like that name because it's too generic Let's let FTP-masters talk for themselves, before shouting out-loud what they could or could not like. I'm not shouting out-loud! I'm giving you an advice/information to save a process-reject cycle. Let's keep it easy… Regards, -- Mehdi Dogguy مهدي الدڤي http://dogguy.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
Hi! * Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com [100527 00:53]: Besides, FTP-masters could not like that name because it's too generic Let's let FTP-masters talk for themselves, before shouting out-loud what they could or could not like. [.] So, before proceeding with the upload, you may want to check with them how they feel about it. Will do. Thanks for the heads-up. To answer your questions: Yes, the name is too generic. No, it is already in Ubuntu is no argument. No, it will lead to some kind of problems for Ubuntu to have it in Debian with a different way) is also not an argument. Yes, we have and will reject packages because of too generic names (several gnustep package come to my mind). Best Regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:46, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl toli...@debian.org wrote: Hi! Hello Alexander, Thank you for taking the time to look at this thread. To answer your questions: Yes, the name is too generic. No, it is already in Ubuntu is no argument. No, it will lead to some kind of problems for Ubuntu to have it in Debian with a different way) is also not an argument. Yes, we have and will reject packages because of too generic names (several gnustep package come to my mind). Fair enough. Here are some alternative names: - live-usb-creator (as Mehdi suggested earlier) - iso-usb-creator - startup-disk-creator (this is what the Gnome menu item reads [1]) - startup-usb-creator - ubuntu-usb-creator Any other name suggestions are more than welcome. :) Dmitrijs and the Usb-creator Hackers team: would you be willing to change the name of the package upstream? Cheers, Ignace M [1] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~usb-creator-hackers/usb-creator/trunk/annotate/head:/desktop/usb-creator-gtk.desktop.in -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:46, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl toli...@debian.org wrote: Yes, the name is too generic. No, it is already in Ubuntu is no argument. No, it will lead to some kind of problems for Ubuntu to have it in Debian with a different way) is also not an argument. Yes, we have and will reject packages because of too generic names (several gnustep package come to my mind). Here are some alternative names: - live-usb-creator (as Mehdi suggested earlier) - iso-usb-creator - startup-disk-creator (this is what the Gnome menu item reads [1]) - startup-usb-creator - ubuntu-usb-creator I can't say I agree, but if we're going to have to do this, we might as well take the opportunity to make it consistent with the .desktop file. Alexander, are you okay with startup-disk-creator? I think if we can get rid of usb in the name, that would be good as it can write to SD cards. I want to avoid using live in the name since, as I previously mentioned, it can write debian-installer based images, which are definitely not live CDs. I don't want to put Ubuntu in the name. It writes more than just Ubuntu images (currently any Debian-based image, but in the future any Linux distribution that uses GRUB2). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#576359: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#576359: Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent job. Howerver, it seems that the version 0.2.23 has not been released by upstream yet. I prefer waiting for the new release before trying to upload it to Debian. This is a native package. 0.2.23 will be released when it's uploaded :). The maintainer is currently set as Ubuntu Installer Team as these Ubuntu Debian Developers have actually created and maintained this package. Actually, this is a bug. It should be the usb-creator-hackers team now. Fixed. As we will be maintaining this package for Debian, we will set ourselves in the Maintainer and Uploaders fields. Is this necessary? I'm more than happy to add people to the usb-creator-hackers team. I'd really like to avoid having a delta between Debian and Ubuntu on this, if possible. * .desktop files: - I am not convinced that usb-creator's Desktop file should appear in System/Administration as using it does not have an effect on the local system. I'd rather put it in Application/System tools. What do you think about this? It has an effect on the devices attached to the local system. There are other applications in System-Administration that are similar in nature to usb-creator, such as GParted and Disk Utility (palimpsest). Does usb-creator not appear in the same menu as these two applications in Debian? You don't specify that something goes into the Administration menu in the XDG spec, but rather list a set of categories it falls under. So if you're seeing different behavior for similar programs, we might have the set of categories wrong. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On 05/24/2010 06:19 PM, Justin B Rye wrote: Taking that already confusing term and leaving off the live eliminates the only clue that it has something to do with booting an operating system, and leaves us wondering how you've managed to package a Creator that can be plugged into a USB port. Exactly :) Besides, FTP-masters could not like that name because it's too generic (and meaningless). So, before proceeding with the upload, you may want to check with them how they feel about it. Regards, -- Mehdi Dogguy مهدي الدڤي http://dogguy.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#576359: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#576359: Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:10, Evan Dandrea e...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent job. Howerver, it seems that the version 0.2.23 has not been released by upstream yet. I prefer waiting for the new release before trying to upload it to Debian. This is a native package. 0.2.23 will be released when it's uploaded :). I should at least be tagged as so in its bzr main branch, before being released. Also, Dmitrijs told me this afternoon, that the plan was to release the version on Debian, so that it would get synchronized to Ubuntu. Is that right? As we will be maintaining this package for Debian, we will set ourselves in the Maintainer and Uploaders fields. Is this necessary? I'm more than happy to add people to the usb-creator-hackers team. I'd really like to avoid having a delta between Debian and Ubuntu on this, if possible. Having different maintainers on Debian and Ubuntu is not an important delta. Of course, it is helpful to have somebody from the team co-maintaining the package in Debian. Also, I don't see the inconvenient in keeping the Maintainer field as is (i.e. usb-creator Hackers Team) and listing Dmitrijs and myself in the Uploaders list for the Debian package. * .desktop files: - I am not convinced that usb-creator's Desktop file should appear in System/Administration as using it does not have an effect on the local system. I'd rather put it in Application/System tools. What do you think about this? It has an effect on the devices attached to the local system. There are other applications in System-Administration that are similar in nature to usb-creator, such as GParted and Disk Utility (palimpsest). Does usb-creator not appear in the same menu as these two applications in Debian? You don't specify that something goes into the Administration menu in the XDG spec, but rather list a set of categories it falls under. So if you're seeing different behavior for similar programs, we might have the set of categories wrong. What I am trying to say, is that usb-creator is a sort of USB-writer application more than a local system configuration application. For instance, you do not need root privileges to run usb-creator; whereas GParted asks for the administrative password when launched from the System - Administration menu. Also, in Debian, Disk Utility (palimpsest) appears in Application/System tools: -8-8- ~$ cat /usr/share/applications/palimpsest.desktop [Desktop Entry] Name=Disk Utility (...) Categories=GNOME;GTK;System; -8-8- This is why, I would rather see the usb-creator's menu shortcut in Application/System tools. Cheers, Ignace M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 23:55, Mehdi Dogguy me...@debian.org wrote: On 05/24/2010 06:19 PM, Justin B Rye wrote: Taking that already confusing term and leaving off the live eliminates the only clue that it has something to do with booting an operating system, and leaves us wondering how you've managed to package a Creator that can be plugged into a USB port. Exactly :) Besides, FTP-masters could not like that name because it's too generic Let's let FTP-masters talk for themselves, before shouting out-loud what they could or could not like. (and meaningless). This does not help there; not every package has a meaningful name. So, before proceeding with the upload, you may want to check with them how they feel about it. Will do. Thanks for the heads-up. Cheers, Ignace M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#576359: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#576359: Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On 26 May 2010 23:50, Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:10, Evan Dandrea e...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent job. Howerver, it seems that the version 0.2.23 has not been released by upstream yet. I prefer waiting for the new release before trying to upload it to Debian. This is a native package. 0.2.23 will be released when it's uploaded :). I should at least be tagged as so in its bzr main branch, before being released. Also, Dmitrijs told me this afternoon, that the plan was to release the version on Debian, so that it would get synchronized to Ubuntu. Is that right? Depends. For general uploads there are no reasons to not do that. If Ubuntu is close to different freezes/milestones there might be releases pushed to ubuntu e.g. 0.2.XXubuntuY but those would be hot-fixes for ubuntu something along the lines of 0day delay queue NMU. As we will be maintaining this package for Debian, we will set ourselves in the Maintainer and Uploaders fields. Is this necessary? I'm more than happy to add people to the usb-creator-hackers team. I'd really like to avoid having a delta between Debian and Ubuntu on this, if possible. Having different maintainers on Debian and Ubuntu is not an important delta. Of course, it is helpful to have somebody from the team co-maintaining the package in Debian. Also, I don't see the inconvenient in keeping the Maintainer field as is (i.e. usb-creator Hackers Team) and listing Dmitrijs and myself in the Uploaders list for the Debian package. * .desktop files: - I am not convinced that usb-creator's Desktop file should appear in System/Administration as using it does not have an effect on the local system. I'd rather put it in Application/System tools. What do you think about this? It has an effect on the devices attached to the local system. There are other applications in System-Administration that are similar in nature to usb-creator, such as GParted and Disk Utility (palimpsest). Does usb-creator not appear in the same menu as these two applications in Debian? You don't specify that something goes into the Administration menu in the XDG spec, but rather list a set of categories it falls under. So if you're seeing different behavior for similar programs, we might have the set of categories wrong. What I am trying to say, is that usb-creator is a sort of USB-writer application more than a local system configuration application. For instance, you do not need root privileges to run usb-creator; whereas Yes and no with respect to root privileges, depends on the PolicyKit setup on a particular machine. GParted asks for the administrative password when launched from the System - Administration menu. Also, in Debian, Disk Utility (palimpsest) appears in Application/System tools: User and groups doesn't ask for the password when you launch it from System - Administration and later depending on the requested task PolicyKit kicks in and might ask a password. -8-8- ~$ cat /usr/share/applications/palimpsest.desktop [Desktop Entry] Name=Disk Utility (...) Categories=GNOME;GTK;System; -8-8- This is why, I would rather see the usb-creator's menu shortcut in Application/System tools. I'm ok with implementing this as a Debian vendor modification ;-) Cheers, Ignace M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#576359: Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
Hello Dmitrijs, On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 14:24, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com wrote: Here is the current dsc ready for upload to Debian (with last minute fixes to debrand package description) http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/u/usb-creator/usb-creator_0.2.23.dsc also pushed as a branch lp:~dmitrij.ledkov/usb-creator/debian (temporary branch intended to be merged with lp:usb-creator) Excellent job. Howerver, it seems that the version 0.2.23 has not been released by upstream yet. I prefer waiting for the new release before trying to upload it to Debian. Here are the options I see: 1- Wait for the 0.2.23 version to be released upstream, and take action from this version and on. 2- Work on the 0.2.22 version (as I did because I wasn't aware 0.2.23 was about to be released) then upload the newer version later. I would prefer option 1, tell me what you think. The maintainer is currently set as Ubuntu Installer Team as these Ubuntu Debian Developers have actually created and maintained this package. As we will be maintaining this package for Debian, we will set ourselves in the Maintainer and Uploaders fields. I'm GSoC'2010 student working on usb-creator this summer and I have a have upload rights after review from mentor / primary upstream author Evan. Ooh, congrats! This is excellent! :) Please review packaging above and if there are any issues I believe we will be able to work them out and upload to debian soon. Here are my thoughts: --- * debian/changelog: - it is missing the Initial Debian release closing the 2 ITPs (Debian specific). --- * debian/control: - Maintainer field should be updated as the Ubuntu Installer Team won't be the Debian maintainer of the usb-creator package (Debian specific). - It seems kdesdk-scripts is missing from the build dependencies as extractrc(1) (which it provides) is used by Messages.sh. Is this an upstream bug? --- * debian/usb-creator-gtk.menu and debian/usb-creator-kde.menu files are missing. Is this an upstream bug? --- * .desktop files: - I am not convinced that usb-creator's Desktop file should appear in System/Administration as using it does not have an effect on the local system. I'd rather put it in Application/System tools. What do you think about this? --- * debian/rules: - I am not sure that this is the best way to go (using dpkg-vendor there), but I can't think of better way to do it. :) - I have updated the find executions to use absolute path. - I also changed the override from dh_install to dh_auto_install. I have uploaded a new version [1]. Tell me what you think about it. I am, of course, open to all your suggestions. :) Cheers, Ignace M [1] http://ghantoos.org/misc/debian/usb-creator_0.2.23.dsc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org, usb-creator-hack...@lists.launchpad.net, ubuntu-instal...@lists.ubuntu.com Owner: Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com * Package name : usb-creator Version : 0.2.23 Upstream Author : Evan Dandrea ev...@ubuntu.com * URL : http://launchpad.net/usb-creator * License : GPL-2, GPL-3 Programming Lang: Python Description : Live USB creator Utility for converting Live Linux CDs into bootable USB sticks for example Ubuntu and Kubuntu. This utility can partition USB stick to allow storing user files in persistence mode. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On 05/24/2010 12:55 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org, usb-creator-hack...@lists.launchpad.net, ubuntu-instal...@lists.ubuntu.com Owner: Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com * Package name: usb-creator usb-creator is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could you rename it into something like live-usb-creator? Regards, -- Mehdi Dogguy مهدي الدڤي http://dogguy.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On 24 May 2010 12:15, Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org wrote:
On 05/24/2010 12:55 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org,
usb-creator-hack...@lists.launchpad.net,
ubuntu-instal...@lists.ubuntu.com
Owner: Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com
* Package name : usb-creator
usb-creator is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could you
rename it into something like live-usb-creator?
Regards,
This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now.
Currently it builds usb-creator-common, usb-creator-gtk
usb-creator-kde packages with backend, GTK and Qt front ends
respectively.
I don't believe the name is misleading when read together with short
description or with long description. Plus it would be inconvenience
to rename the package again, cause we have just transitioned from
usb-creator - usb-creator-$(frontend) in Ubuntu.
I've created Debian branded icons, I will work on making description
non-vendor specific. This is the current debian/control.
8--
$ cat debian/control
Source: usb-creator
Section: admin
Priority: optional
Maintainer: Ubuntu Installer Team ubuntu-instal...@lists.ubuntu.com
Uploaders: Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com
Build-Depends: debhelper (= 7.0.50~),
python,
python-distutils-extra,
pkg-kde-tools
Standards-Version: 3.8.4
Vcs-Bzr: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~usb-creator-hackers/usb-creator/trunk
Package: usb-creator-common
Architecture: all
Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${python:Depends}, python-dbus, syslinux,
udisks (= 1.0~), udisks ( 1.1), genisoimage, mtools, parted
Description: Live USB creator (common files)
Utility for converting Live Linux CDs into bootable USB sticks for example
Ubuntu and Kubuntu. This utility can partition USB stick to allow
storing user files in persistence mode.
.
This package contains backend engine and common data files used
by frontends.
Package: usb-creator-gtk
Architecture: all
Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${python:Depends},
usb-creator-common (= ${source:Version}), python-gtk2 (= 2.12),
python-dbus, python-gnome2
Description: Live USB creator for GNOME
Utility for converting Live Linux CDs into bootable USB sticks for example
Ubuntu and Ubuntu Netbook Remix. This utility can partition USB stick to allow
storing user files in persistence mode.
.
This package contains the GTK+ client frontend.
Package: usb-creator-kde
Architecture: all
Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${python:Depends},
usb-creator-common (= ${source:Version}), python-kde4, python-qt4-dbus
Description: Live USB creator for KDE
Utility for converting Live Linux CDs into bootable USB sticks for example
Kubuntu and Kubuntu Netbook Remix. This utility can partition USB stick to
allow storing user files in persistence mode.
.
This package contains the KDE client frontend.
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Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On 05/24/2010 01:27 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: * Package name: usb-creator usb-creator is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could you rename it into something like live-usb-creator? This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now. Honestly, I don't know how you (as a team) ended up with such a name. I don't believe the name is misleading when read together with short description or with long description. Having a clear short description is not a valid reason to keep that name, IMO. And such a name may not be appropriate because it's too general. live-usb-creator tells you what the program does, without reading its short description. Plus it would be inconvenience to rename the package again, cause we have just transitioned from usb-creator - usb-creator-$(frontend) in Ubuntu. We are talking about a NEW package in *Debian*, right? Besides, it shouldn't be that hard to rename a package. Regards, -- Mehdi Dogguy مهدي الدڤي http://dogguy.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:55, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org, usb-creator-hack...@lists.launchpad.net, ubuntu-instal...@lists.ubuntu.com Owner: Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com * Package name : usb-creator Version : 0.2.23 Upstream Author : Evan Dandrea ev...@ubuntu.com * URL : http://launchpad.net/usb-creator * License : GPL-2, GPL-3 Programming Lang: Python Description : Live USB creator Utility for converting Live Linux CDs into bootable USB sticks for example Ubuntu and Kubuntu. This utility can partition USB stick to allow storing user files in persistence mode. Hi Dmitrijs, I already own an ITP for usb-creator [1]. I have started working on it. I should be releasing it soon. Could you close your bug report? Or may be merge the two bugs? Thanks. Cheers, Ignace M [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=576359 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On 24 May 2010 12:43, Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org wrote: On 05/24/2010 01:27 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: * Package name : usb-creator usb-creator is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could you rename it into something like live-usb-creator? This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now. Honestly, I don't know how you (as a team) ended up with such a name. it was before me. But there is liveusb-creator package already developed and packaged in Fedora [1] [1] https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ I don't believe the name is misleading when read together with short description or with long description. Having a clear short description is not a valid reason to keep that name, IMO. And such a name may not be appropriate because it's too general. live-usb-creator tells you what the program does, without reading its short description. Plus it would be inconvenience to rename the package again, cause we have just transitioned from usb-creator - usb-creator-$(frontend) in Ubuntu. We are talking about a NEW package in *Debian*, right? Besides, it shouldn't be that hard to rename a package. Yes, new package in Debian. But ubuntu debian share package namespace so this upload into debian will affect ubuntu. I think changing package name to live-usb-creator will create confusion with liveusb-creator by Fedora and that might be package for debian as well. Regards, -- Mehdi Dogguy مهدي الدڤي http://dogguy.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On 24 May 2010 12:53, Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dmitrijs, I already own an ITP for usb-creator [1]. reportbug failed to bring it up =( annoyed. Sorry about this. I have started working on it. I should be releasing it soon. Is your work available anywhere to see? What changes have you made? Could you close your bug report? Or may be merge the two bugs? I will merge the two bugs. Are you OK to co-maintain? I've recently done some improvements to usb-creator: exported translations into the bzr-branch, debranded artwork, created debian artwork. As a whole it is ready to be released straight from lp:usb-creator. Currently it is maintained as native package and we would like to keep it like that for now. So the idea is to release as native debian package from lp:usb-creator and sync into ubuntu. Thanks. Cheers, Ignace M [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=576359 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#576359: Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
Here is the current dsc ready for upload to Debian (with last minute fixes to debrand package description) http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/u/usb-creator/usb-creator_0.2.23.dsc also pushed as a branch lp:~dmitrij.ledkov/usb-creator/debian (temporary branch intended to be merged with lp:usb-creator) The maintainer is currently set as Ubuntu Installer Team as these Ubuntu Debian Developers have actually created and maintained this package. I'm GSoC'2010 student working on usb-creator this summer and I have a have upload rights after review from mentor / primary upstream author Evan. Please review packaging above and if there are any issues I believe we will be able to work them out and upload to debian soon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org wrote: * Package name : usb-creator usb-creator is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could you rename it into something like live-usb-creator? This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now. Honestly, I don't know how you (as a team) ended up with such a name. I do not think it is misleading at all. Calling it live-usb-creator would just add confusion as it can be used to write debian-installer ISOs as well, which clearly are not live CDs. I don't believe the name is misleading when read together with short description or with long description. Having a clear short description is not a valid reason to keep that name, IMO. And such a name may not be appropriate because it's too general. live-usb-creator tells you what the program does, without reading its short description. I don't think you can encapsulate what this program does in the package name alone. Equally, Evolution isn't packaged as evolution-mail-client, despite evolution telling you nothing about what it does. So why should we apply this new rule to just usb-creator? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On 05/24/2010 03:19 PM, Evan Dandrea wrote: On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org wrote: * Package name: usb-creator usb-creator is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could you rename it into something like live-usb-creator? This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now. Honestly, I don't know how you (as a team) ended up with such a name. I do not think it is misleading at all. Calling it live-usb-creator would just add confusion as it can be used to write debian-installer ISOs as well, which clearly are not live CDs. Is any debian-installer ISO used to be called live something? I don't think so. Equally, Evolution isn't packaged as evolution-mail-client, despite evolution telling you nothing about what it does. So why should we apply this new rule to just usb-creator? I'm not stating a new rule. Don't make assumptions from nothing! And that's not equally since Evolution doesn't contain mail nor client in its name. usb-creator is more explicit about promised features than evolution. If you want to keep that name, then fine! But, please, don't be hypocritical! -- Mehdi Dogguy مهدي الدڤي http://dogguy.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org wrote: * Package name : usb-creator usb-creator is a bit misleading (or at least… not clear). Could you rename it into something like live-usb-creator? This package has been shipped in Ubuntu for a few releases now. Honestly, I don't know how you (as a team) ended up with such a name. it was before me. But there is liveusb-creator package already developed and packaged in Fedora [1] [1] https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ Speaking as a random bystander who just happened to notice this Debian ITP and went WTF?, I would like to point out that usb-creator and liveusb-creator are two different strings, and that even liveusb-creator may be less than self-explanatory for people who don't happen to have been reading the boot-CD development mailinglists for the past few years. For us outsiders, LiveUSB is an unfamiliar piece of jargon. I gather it's formed by analogy with liveCD, but the difference is that live CDs are literally a kind of CD (like music CDs and data CDs), while live USBs aren't any kind of USB - they're a kind of flash drive. Taking that already confusing term and leaving off the live eliminates the only clue that it has something to do with booting an operating system, and leaves us wondering how you've managed to package a Creator that can be plugged into a USB port. So if you're going to insist on giving these packages newbie-hostile names, please at least say you'll give them intelligible short descriptions, not just ones that expand the name slightly. I would suggest instead of having synopses like this: Package: usb-creator-common ... Description: Live USB creator (common files) they should be more along the lines of: Package: usb-creator-common ... Description: tool for putting OS images on flash drives - common files -- JBR Ankh kak! (Ancient Egyptian blessing) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 14:02, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 24 May 2010 12:53, Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dmitrijs, I already own an ITP for usb-creator [1]. reportbug failed to bring it up =( annoyed. Sorry about this. I have started working on it. I should be releasing it soon. Is your work available anywhere to see? What changes have you made? Not yet. It is still only available on my machine. But I was thinking of creating a branch including my changes. Could you close your bug report? Or may be merge the two bugs? I will merge the two bugs. Are you OK to co-maintain? Of course. Debian would benefit from this. :) I've recently done some improvements to usb-creator: exported translations into the bzr-branch, debranded artwork, created debian artwork. Excellent! :) As a whole it is ready to be released straight from lp:usb-creator. Currently it is maintained as native package and we would like to keep it like that for now. So the idea is to release as native debian package from lp:usb-creator and sync into ubuntu. I was thinking of sending an email to see if releasing usb-creator as a non-native package could be an option. Thank you for clarifying this. Cheers, Ignace M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
