Bug#583294: gnome-control-center: gnome-default-applications-properties should update-alternatives?
Le jeudi 27 mai 2010 à 13:13 -0700, Mark Hedges a écrit : > Yikes! Touchy, aren't we. Uhh, you're the one who brought > up macs and alleged corporate oppression to begin with. I'm > just pointing out that it works both ways. I still don’t know WTF you are talking about. I couldn’t care less about Macs if that’s the question. > I care about system-wide defaults because I use other > applications that cannot be expected to integrate with GConf > (like alpine, or K applications, or whatever.) I guess I am > looking for package galternatives. No, you are probably looking for something that will automatically load the browser selected in GConf instead of using an alternative. That would be xdg-open, since sensible-browser doesn’t do that (arguably that’s a bug in sensible-browser). Cheers, -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' “A handshake with whitnesses is the same `- as a signed contact.” -- Jörg Schilling -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#583294: gnome-control-center: gnome-default-applications-properties should update-alternatives?
On Thu, 27 May 2010, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > If you are the only person to use your computer, what shit > do you give about system-wide defaults? Yikes! Touchy, aren't we. Uhh, you're the one who brought up macs and alleged corporate oppression to begin with. I'm just pointing out that it works both ways. I care about system-wide defaults because I use other applications that cannot be expected to integrate with GConf (like alpine, or K applications, or whatever.) I guess I am looking for package galternatives. ... back away slowly... Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#583294: gnome-control-center: gnome-default-applications-properties should update-alternatives?
Le jeudi 27 mai 2010 à 11:46 -0700, Mark Hedges a écrit : > Possibly true, and your ire justified. However, in Debian, > it might not make sense to then block other applications > that are not native to macs. I don't think your preference > for one operating system (that is not Debian) should prevent > you from creating a system control panel that sets > preferences for other prior apps not from that system. > Since Debian is open to ports from other architectures, and > legacy terminal applications (alpine, in my case), I'm not > sure you can expect all the developers of those different > markets to conform to a minority market standard. It sounds > a lot like Microsoft... or a microsoft wannabe who resells > stuff that is already free. WTF are you talking about? Do you think that Epiphany is a MacOS application or what? > I am just suggesting, since I am the only person who uses my > computer, it would be nice to have a checkbox to apply the > same choices to the system by running update-alternatives > with gksu. As an average user, I was confused why changing > the system preferences didn't change the system preferences. If you are the only person to use your computer, what shit do you give about system-wide defaults? If you want to do administrative tasks, you can use administration tools. Like update-alternatives, or gconf-editor if you want to change the same setting. Or sabayon even, if you want to use the gnome-control-center interface itself to set system-wide defaults. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' “A handshake with whitnesses is the same `- as a signed contact.” -- Jörg Schilling -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#583294: gnome-control-center: gnome-default-applications-properties should update-alternatives?
On Thu, 27 May 2010, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Epiphany advertises itself just like Safari, so those > blocking it are also blocking macs. > Possibly true, and your ire justified. However, in Debian, it might not make sense to then block other applications that are not native to macs. I don't think your preference for one operating system (that is not Debian) should prevent you from creating a system control panel that sets preferences for other prior apps not from that system. Since Debian is open to ports from other architectures, and legacy terminal applications (alpine, in my case), I'm not sure you can expect all the developers of those different markets to conform to a minority market standard. It sounds a lot like Microsoft... or a microsoft wannabe who resells stuff that is already free. I am just suggesting, since I am the only person who uses my computer, it would be nice to have a checkbox to apply the same choices to the system by running update-alternatives with gksu. As an average user, I was confused why changing the system preferences didn't change the system preferences. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#583294: gnome-control-center: gnome-default-applications-properties should update-alternatives?
Le mercredi 26 mai 2010 à 13:31 -0700, Mark Hedges a écrit : > Maybe this is a wishlist item... is it supposed to update-alternatives? > > I change my preferred browser to Iceweasel, but: > > hed...@maggie:~$ locate www-browser | grep etc | grep -v gz | xargs ls -lah > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Dec 9 16:37 /etc/alternatives/gnome-www-browser > -> /usr/bin/epiphany-browser > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Nov 18 2009 /etc/alternatives/www-browser -> > /usr/bin/w3m > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Feb 25 23:46 /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser -> > /usr/bin/epiphany-browser The behavior is just as expected. The alternatives set up the system default, while control-center sets the user’s default. > So a lot of programs still run epiphany when I click links. Epiphany is > cool but I'm not ready to switch, and it's often blocked because it is not > "a supported browser." Epiphany advertises itself just like Safari, so those blocking it are also blocking macs. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' “A handshake with whitnesses is the same `- as a signed contact.” -- Jörg Schilling -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#583294: gnome-control-center: gnome-default-applications-properties should update-alternatives?
Package: gnome-control-center Version: 1:2.30.1-1 Severity: normal Maybe this is a wishlist item... is it supposed to update-alternatives? I change my preferred browser to Iceweasel, but: hed...@maggie:~$ locate www-browser | grep etc | grep -v gz | xargs ls -lah lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Dec 9 16:37 /etc/alternatives/gnome-www-browser -> /usr/bin/epiphany-browser lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Nov 18 2009 /etc/alternatives/www-browser -> /usr/bin/w3m lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Feb 25 23:46 /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser -> /usr/bin/epiphany-browser So a lot of programs still run epiphany when I click links. Epiphany is cool but I'm not ready to switch, and it's often blocked because it is not "a supported browser." If it is not supposed to work that way and broken, could there be a checkbox to sync /etc/alternatives with gksu? Mark -- System Information: Debian Release: squeeze/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-3-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages gnome-control-center depends on: ii capplets-data 1:2.30.1-1 configuration applets for GNOME - ii desktop-file-utils 0.15-2 Utilities for .desktop files ii gnome-desktop-data 2.30.0-2 Common files for GNOME desktop app ii gnome-icon-theme2.30.2.1-1 GNOME Desktop icon theme ii gnome-menus 2.30.0-1 an implementation of the freedeskt ii gnome-settings-daemon 2.30.1-1 daemon handling the GNOME session ii libatk1.0-0 1.30.0-1 The ATK accessibility toolkit ii libc6 2.10.2-9 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib ii libcairo2 1.8.10-4 The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra ii libcanberra-gtk00.24-1 Gtk+ helper for playing widget eve ii libcanberra00.24-1 a simple abstract interface for pl ii libdbus-glib-1-20.86-1 simple interprocess messaging syst ii libebook1.2-9 2.28.3.1-1 Client library for evolution addre ii libfontconfig1 2.8.0-2.1generic font configuration library ii libfreetype62.3.11-1 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib ii libgconf2-4 2.28.1-3 GNOME configuration database syste ii libglib2.0-02.24.1-1 The GLib library of C routines ii libgnome-desktop-2-17 2.30.0-2 Utility library for loading .deskt ii libgnome-window-settings1 1:2.30.1-1 Utility library for getting window ii libgnomekbd42.30.1-2 GNOME library to manage keyboard c ii libgtk2.0-0 2.20.1-1 The GTK+ graphical user interface ii libmetacity-private01:2.30.1-1 library for the Metacity window ma ii libpango1.0-0 1.28.0-1 Layout and rendering of internatio ii libslab0a 2.27.91-3+b1 beautification app library file ii libunique-1.0-0 1.1.6-1 Library for writing single instanc ii libx11-62:1.3.3-3X11 client-side library ii libxcursor1 1:1.1.10-2 X cursor management library ii libxft2 2.1.14-2 FreeType-based font drawing librar ii libxi6 2:1.3-4 X11 Input extension library ii libxklavier16 5.0-2X Keyboard Extension high-level AP ii libxml2 2.7.7.dfsg-2 GNOME XML library ii libxss1 1:1.2.0-2X11 Screen Saver extension library Versions of packages gnome-control-center recommends: ii bzip2 1.0.5-4high-quality block-sorting file co ii evolution-data-server 2.28.3.1-1 evolution database backend server ii gnome-session 2.30.0-1 The GNOME Session Manager - GNOME ii gnome-user-guide 2.30.1-1 GNOME user's guide ii policykit-1-gnome 0.96-2 GNOME authentication agent for Pol Versions of packages gnome-control-center suggests: ii gnome-screensaver 2.30.0-1 GNOME screen saver and locker ii gstreamer0.10-alsa [gstream 0.10.29-1GStreamer plugin for ALSA ii gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad [ 0.10.18-2+b1 GStreamer plugins from the "bad" s ii gstreamer0.10-plugins-good 0.10.22-1GStreamer plugins from the "good" ii gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio [g 0.10.22-1GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio ii libcanberra-gtk-module 0.24-1 translates Gtk+ widgets signals to ii x11-xserver-utils 7.5+1+b1 X server utilities -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
