Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
Am 21.09.2010 10:42, Mehdi Dogguy schrieb: On 09/21/2010 10:20 AM, Stefan Bauer wrote: 13/10 days. But due to no unblocking request, there will be no migration to testing. I hope that get changed soon. Well, we are not ignoring yet HPPA… so, you'll have to wait a bit longer (hopefully, not much). Even though hppa is ignored now, i still miss the unblock exeption for openmotif. Please add it. thanks stefan -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: 36D1 1570 DCAD B767 EABE F60D 6BCA 7AD4 79EB C4EC plzk.de - Linux - because it works -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:08:55 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Package: release.debian.org Please add another freeze exception. The package would have been in testing already but the buldd's are too busy. I'm waiting since 19. of august for the appropriate builds. This package is mandatory for citrix ICA-client. This client is heavily used. bmotif4-dbg conflict with lesstif2-dbg as they ship numerous files in both packages. (Closes: #593381) The dbg packages should just have debug symbols for the libraries, not for random additional programs, IMO. This upload was to fix a RC-bug. So there's something I'm not sure I understand here. AFAIK, we're shipping motif because some closed apps need it. How does that work if we get rid of libXm.so.3? Or did I misunderstand the point of those packages? Another concern is that the shared library packages contains a lot of non-versioned files. Those should be in a separate package so that different ABI versions are co-installable. Especially wtf at a shared lib package including files in /usr/include. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
Am 22.09.2010 14:53, Julien Cristau schrieb: So there's something I'm not sure I understand here. AFAIK, we're shipping motif because some closed apps need it. How does that work if we get rid of libXm.so.3? Or did I misunderstand the point of those packages? Apps have to be recompiled if the users decide to replace libXm.so.3 by libXm.so.4 Another concern is that the shared library packages contains a lot of non-versioned files. Those should be in a separate package so that different ABI versions are co-installable. Especially wtf at a shared lib package including files in /usr/include. I put that on my todo list for the next release. thanks for the input. Stefan -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: 36D1 1570 DCAD B767 EABE F60D 6BCA 7AD4 79EB C4EC plzk.de - Linux - because it works -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 15:19:11 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Am 22.09.2010 14:53, Julien Cristau schrieb: So there's something I'm not sure I understand here. AFAIK, we're shipping motif because some closed apps need it. How does that work if we get rid of libXm.so.3? Or did I misunderstand the point of those packages? Apps have to be recompiled if the users decide to replace libXm.so.3 by libXm.so.4 That's not an option for closed apps. And open apps should be using lesstif anyway. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
Am 22.09.2010 15:27, Julien Cristau schrieb: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 15:19:11 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Am 22.09.2010 14:53, Julien Cristau schrieb: So there's something I'm not sure I understand here. AFAIK, we're shipping motif because some closed apps need it. How does that work if we get rid of libXm.so.3? Or did I misunderstand the point of those packages? Apps have to be recompiled if the users decide to replace libXm.so.3 by libXm.so.4 That's not an option for closed apps. And open apps should be using lesstif anyway. IIRC closed aps like the citrix client are dynamically linked against libXm.so and since almost a year, 2.3 of openmotif is required for citrix ica client. Additionaly, open apps like guis and stuff are linking statically against a specific version of libXm.so.* - so only they need to be recompiled. I leave the decision of using openmotif or lesstif up to the user. Stefan -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: 36D1 1570 DCAD B767 EABE F60D 6BCA 7AD4 79EB C4EC plzk.de - Linux - because it works -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 15:33:45 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Am 22.09.2010 15:27, Julien Cristau schrieb: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 15:19:11 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Am 22.09.2010 14:53, Julien Cristau schrieb: So there's something I'm not sure I understand here. AFAIK, we're shipping motif because some closed apps need it. How does that work if we get rid of libXm.so.3? Or did I misunderstand the point of those packages? Apps have to be recompiled if the users decide to replace libXm.so.3 by libXm.so.4 That's not an option for closed apps. And open apps should be using lesstif anyway. IIRC closed aps like the citrix client are dynamically linked against libXm.so and since almost a year, 2.3 of openmotif is required for citrix ica client. What about older apps that need libXm.so.3? Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
Am 22.09.2010 18:41, Julien Cristau schrieb: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 15:33:45 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Am 22.09.2010 15:27, Julien Cristau schrieb: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 15:19:11 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Am 22.09.2010 14:53, Julien Cristau schrieb: So there's something I'm not sure I understand here. AFAIK, we're shipping motif because some closed apps need it. How does that work if we get rid of libXm.so.3? Or did I misunderstand the point of those packages? Apps have to be recompiled if the users decide to replace libXm.so.3 by libXm.so.4 That's not an option for closed apps. And open apps should be using lesstif anyway. IIRC closed aps like the citrix client are dynamically linked against libXm.so and since almost a year, 2.3 of openmotif is required for citrix ica client. What about older apps that need libXm.so.3? What kind of discussion is this here? I thought it would be an advantage to have a recent openmotif in the next stable version. It's up to you if you unblock it or not. If you would like to keep libXm.so.3 - create a report against openmotif. In the past, old versions of libXm were always redeemed by newer ones. The intention of this bugreport is something else. Stefan -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: 36D1 1570 DCAD B767 EABE F60D 6BCA 7AD4 79EB C4EC plzk.de - Linux - because it works -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 19:06:52 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: What kind of discussion is this here? You want a newer version of openmotif in squeeze. I'm trying to understand why that's a good thing to do. There are no users of openmotif in Debian, so I assume there are external users. Which are those, which of them require which motif ABI? Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
Am 22.09.2010 19:30, Julien Cristau schrieb: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 19:06:52 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: What kind of discussion is this here? You want a newer version of openmotif in squeeze. I'm trying to understand why that's a good thing to do. There are no users of openmotif in Debian, so I assume there are external users. Which are those, which of them require which motif ABI? From my past experience, it's almost all about the citrix client and it requires http://support.citrix.com/proddocs/topic/receiver-linux-blackfoot/linux-deploy-system-requirements.html#linux-deploy-system-requirements Stefan -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: 36D1 1570 DCAD B767 EABE F60D 6BCA 7AD4 79EB C4EC plzk.de - Linux - because it works -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
Am 18.09.2010 23:42, Julien Cristau schrieb: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:55:32 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: whats the status on this hppa build? I want to see openmotif in the current unstable version to be in testing - stable. I'm not a DD so my hands are tied :/ hppa out-of-date-ness is likely to get ignored by the testing scripts in the near future, so we should be able to live without it. 13/10 days. But due to no unblocking request, there will be no migration to testing. I hope that get changed soon. Stefan -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: 36D1 1570 DCAD B767 EABE F60D 6BCA 7AD4 79EB C4EC plzk.de - Linux - because it works -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
On 09/21/2010 10:20 AM, Stefan Bauer wrote: 13/10 days. But due to no unblocking request, there will be no migration to testing. I hope that get changed soon. Well, we are not ignoring yet HPPA… so, you'll have to wait a bit longer (hopefully, not much). -- Mehdi Dogguy مهدي الدڤي http://dogguy.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:55:32 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: whats the status on this hppa build? I want to see openmotif in the current unstable version to be in testing - stable. I'm not a DD so my hands are tied :/ hppa out-of-date-ness is likely to get ignored by the testing scripts in the near future, so we should be able to live without it. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
Am 11.09.2010 17:12, Julien Cristau schrieb: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 08:43:08 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Am 04.09.2010 18:13, Adam D. Barratt schrieb: On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 12:08 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Please add another freeze exception. The package would have been in testing already but the buldd's are too busy. I'm waiting since 19. of august for the appropriate builds. out of date on hppa: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) out of date on ia64: libmotif-dev, libmotif4, motif-clients (from 2.3.3-2) out of date on mips: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) out of date on mipsel: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) Those missing builds all need resolving before the package will migrate. hppa does not have non-free auto-builders right now; ia64 is now built and mipsel has hit #519006 (I would be astonished if mips does not also do so). Build Problems on mips are now fixed. Please add an unblock exeption for this package to enter testing. This package is really required to run the citrix client. It's still missing an hppa build. Can you do that on the porterbox? whats the status on this hppa build? I want to see openmotif in the current unstable version to be in testing - stable. I'm not a DD so my hands are tied :/ I also noticed, that the package is already 10 days in unstable but the QA page says 7/10... Stefan -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: 36D1 1570 DCAD B767 EABE F60D 6BCA 7AD4 79EB C4EC plzk.de - Linux - because it works -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 08:43:08 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Am 04.09.2010 18:13, Adam D. Barratt schrieb: On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 12:08 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Please add another freeze exception. The package would have been in testing already but the buldd's are too busy. I'm waiting since 19. of august for the appropriate builds. out of date on hppa: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) out of date on ia64: libmotif-dev, libmotif4, motif-clients (from 2.3.3-2) out of date on mips: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) out of date on mipsel: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) Those missing builds all need resolving before the package will migrate. hppa does not have non-free auto-builders right now; ia64 is now built and mipsel has hit #519006 (I would be astonished if mips does not also do so). Build Problems on mips are now fixed. Please add an unblock exeption for this package to enter testing. This package is really required to run the citrix client. It's still missing an hppa build. Can you do that on the porterbox? Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
Am 11.09.2010 17:12, Julien Cristau schrieb: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 08:43:08 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Am 04.09.2010 18:13, Adam D. Barratt schrieb: On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 12:08 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Please add another freeze exception. The package would have been in testing already but the buldd's are too busy. I'm waiting since 19. of august for the appropriate builds. out of date on hppa: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) out of date on ia64: libmotif-dev, libmotif4, motif-clients (from 2.3.3-2) out of date on mips: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) out of date on mipsel: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) Those missing builds all need resolving before the package will migrate. hppa does not have non-free auto-builders right now; ia64 is now built and mipsel has hit #519006 (I would be astonished if mips does not also do so). Build Problems on mips are now fixed. Please add an unblock exeption for this package to enter testing. This package is really required to run the citrix client. It's still missing an hppa build. Can you do that on the porterbox? I would love to do so, but am not a DD. Ideas? I dont have hppa-arch-Box here either :/ Stefan -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: E80A 50D5 2D46 341C A887 F05D 5C81 5858 DCEF 8C34 plzk.de - Linux - because it works -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
Am 04.09.2010 18:13, Adam D. Barratt schrieb: On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 12:08 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Please add another freeze exception. The package would have been in testing already but the buldd's are too busy. I'm waiting since 19. of august for the appropriate builds. out of date on hppa: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) out of date on ia64: libmotif-dev, libmotif4, motif-clients (from 2.3.3-2) out of date on mips: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) out of date on mipsel: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) Those missing builds all need resolving before the package will migrate. hppa does not have non-free auto-builders right now; ia64 is now built and mipsel has hit #519006 (I would be astonished if mips does not also do so). Build Problems on mips are now fixed. Please add an unblock exeption for this package to enter testing. This package is really required to run the citrix client. Thanks! Stefan -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: E80A 50D5 2D46 341C A887 F05D 5C81 5858 DCEF 8C34 plzk.de - Linux - because it works -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
Am 04.09.2010 18:13, Adam D. Barratt schrieb: On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 12:08 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Please add another freeze exception. The package would have been in testing already but the buldd's are too busy. I'm waiting since 19. of august for the appropriate builds. out of date on hppa: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) out of date on ia64: libmotif-dev, libmotif4, motif-clients (from 2.3.3-2) out of date on mips: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) out of date on mipsel: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) Those missing builds all need resolving before the package will migrate. hppa does not have non-free auto-builders right now; ia64 is now built and mipsel has hit #519006 (I would be astonished if mips does not also do so). Thanks for your reply. What's next? I dont see a solution for this mips* bug. Any ideas? As i'm not a DD i dont even have access to a mips machine to test this further. Help is greatly appreciated. Stefan -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: E80A 50D5 2D46 341C A887 F05D 5C81 5858 DCEF 8C34 plzk.de - Linux - because it works -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 12:08 +0200, Stefan Bauer wrote: Please add another freeze exception. The package would have been in testing already but the buldd's are too busy. I'm waiting since 19. of august for the appropriate builds. out of date on hppa: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) out of date on ia64: libmotif-dev, libmotif4, motif-clients (from 2.3.3-2) out of date on mips: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) out of date on mipsel: libmotif-dev, libmotif3, motif-clients (from 2.2.3-4) Those missing builds all need resolving before the package will migrate. hppa does not have non-free auto-builders right now; ia64 is now built and mipsel has hit #519006 (I would be astonished if mips does not also do so). Regards, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#595479: Please unblock: openmotif/2.3.3-4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: release.debian.org Please add another freeze exception. The package would have been in testing already but the buldd's are too busy. I'm waiting since 19. of august for the appropriate builds. This package is mandatory for citrix ICA-client. This client is heavily used. bmotif4-dbg conflict with lesstif2-dbg as they ship numerous files in both packages. (Closes: #593381) This upload was to fix a RC-bug. Cheers - -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: E80A 50D5 2D46 341C A887 F05D 5C81 5858 DCEF 8C34 - plzk.de - Linux - because it works -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMghq2AAoJEGvKetR568TsVOIP/iioRq7gbABG/N6f3Y7EYvzP LVHkbcBTi7nwGoDo8zWoRWcCxYgboko3MMZ+YFa5dokBkTFeP20wPKvBaBM4Yr5g I0YuGN6qXo1Ga79r0gPVkNACy/Jfyh5dOsax0DDZKJQxoAZeYWtpL8GSVmqSyLTI mYobqB9zEaAT+ouedkdxtfhScUlGmTus/K6WFG2NqN61JSTmlRdzm+boyQx4D4IN Dl9h6yzNjyf1Wv+1OVvU0RuwzCOwsmlnLNfLDRK+isOBRYerPYhfpxkBeMXBjkKf dxBIsa3H7ZqmoGTg41C81VCVGm+kZDCNL0KIbHpWLJcuqJd9vbMVuwV3+jv+b4Mb +TThrJhSLX2dJf8Q03YYGXKdOv9vDIc2xsgcOpsWduwgE8N7Zysx0VWUzmOoSXIQ HdQWQVgEzc5Ieg/4vdIR+VTSHGao+/IJH4SyBCh148LeqbrF2rk7VSiG6VPD9vjh eppSpSK5rwhpOHMdBN3vXiAqlvPsxcbNLPU9Oas7Agu0gnwpceluiyF44KcCJYvx 4Hanles/bcgCLqOMtgNCMXs2ZaAIxHoMiRrbl/DlQf2fdDbxpQWo5AhW/Wkdk9Wx OETWtd4SnK+nuedzgc8M6fSU5C6dAAFZmG1FaYZgNd5K84TqlrL+wWVgWIiqE3l3 nYIVuZVNq9PBdlLDmOMV =/12p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
