Bug#629899: apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed / Could not reliably determine the server's FQDN

2011-07-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2011-06-09 14:11:09 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
 After installing the new kernel 2.6.39-2-amd64 and rebooting, I got
 in /var/log/boot:
 
 Thu Jun  9 13:41:49 2011: Starting web server: apache2apache2: 
 apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for ypig
 Thu Jun  9 13:41:51 2011: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's 
 fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
 Thu Jun  9 13:41:51 2011: .

Same problem just after I installed the new kernel
linux-image-3.0.0-1-amd64 and rebooted.

I also had the same problem on Jul 22 (though I hadn't changed the
kernel).

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Bug#629899: apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed / Could not reliably determine the server's FQDN

2011-07-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
retitle 629899 ap_get_local_host is broken (can't always determine the server's 
FQDN)
severity 629899 important
thanks

with potential security implications (depending on what Apache does
with the FQDN).

After reading the source, it appears that the ap_get_local_host
function in server/util.c is broken: it uses apr_sockaddr_info_get
to get the FQDN (thus does a network access) instead of using
gethostbyname (possibly an APR limitation); if gethostbyname is
not available on some systems, Apache could still use the current
method.

On my machine, the FQDN is specified via /etc/hosts, thus doesn't
depend on the network being set up. For instance, here we apparently
have dynamic DNS set-up, so that resolving the host name during the
boot via the DNS system may fail because the request is done too
early after the DHCP client has started.

Moreover, from a security point of view, it is a bad idea to use the
DNS system when the FQDN is defined locally, because the DNS system
may give incorrect information (e.g. when connecting via a public
access point).

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Bug#629899: apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed / Could not reliably determine the server's FQDN

2011-06-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
Package: apache2.2-common
Version: 2.2.19-1
Severity: normal

After installing the new kernel 2.6.39-2-amd64 and rebooting, I got
in /var/log/boot:

Thu Jun  9 13:41:49 2011: Starting web server: apache2apache2: 
apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for ypig
Thu Jun  9 13:41:51 2011: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's 
fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
Thu Jun  9 13:41:51 2011: .

This error didn't occur with previous kernels, and doesn't occur
after a manual restart with:

  /etc/init.d/apache2 restart

My /etc/hosts contains:

127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.1.1   ypig.lip.ens-lyon.frypig

# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
fe00::0 ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters

and /etc/nsswitch.conf contains the line:

hosts:  files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4

-- Package-specific info:
List of enabled modules from 'apache2 -M':
  alias auth_basic authn_file authz_default authz_groupfile
  authz_host authz_svn authz_user autoindex cgi cgid dav dav_svn
  deflate dir env mime negotiation perl python reqtimeout setenvif
  status

-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 
'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.39-2-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=POSIX, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages apache2 depends on:
ii  apache2-mpm-worker2.2.19-1   Apache HTTP Server - high speed th
ii  apache2.2-common  2.2.19-1   Apache HTTP Server common files

apache2 recommends no packages.

apache2 suggests no packages.

Versions of packages apache2.2-common depends on:
ii  apache2-utils 2.2.19-1   utility programs for webservers
ii  apache2.2-bin 2.2.19-1   Apache HTTP Server common binary f
ii  lsb-base  3.2-27 Linux Standard Base 3.2 init scrip
ii  mime-support  3.51-1 MIME files 'mime.types'  'mailcap
ii  perl  5.12.3-7   Larry Wall's Practical Extraction 
ii  procps1:3.2.8-10 /proc file system utilities

Versions of packages apache2.2-common recommends:
ii  ssl-cert  1.0.28 simple debconf wrapper for OpenSSL

Versions of packages apache2.2-common suggests:
ii  apache2-doc 2.2.19-1 Apache HTTP Server documentation
pn  apache2-suexec | ap none   (no description available)
ii  chromium [www-brows 11.0.696.71~r86024-1 Chromium browser
ii  epiphany-browser [w 2.30.6-2 Intuitive GNOME web browser
ii  iceape-browser [www 2.0.14-2 Iceape Navigator (Internet browser
ii  iceweasel [www-brow 3.5.19-2 Web browser based on Firefox
ii  links [www-browser] 2.3~pre1-1+b1Web browser running in text mode
ii  links2 [www-browser 2.3~pre1-1+b1Web browser running in both graphi
ii  lynx-cur [www-brows 2.8.8dev.8-1 Text-mode WWW Browser with NLS sup
ii  midori [www-browser 0.3.6-1  fast, lightweight graphical web br
ii  uzbl [www-browser]  0.0.0~git.20110412-1 Lightweight Webkit browser followi
ii  w3m [www-browser]   0.5.3-2+b1   WWW browsable pager with excellent

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Bug#629899: apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed / Could not reliably determine the server's FQDN

2011-06-09 Thread Massimo Manghi

I've run into the same problem recently upgrading to Linux 2.6.38 on my
home's computer. Symptoms are the shell prompt doesn't show the hostname
I had assigned at install time, being the hostname displayed instead
then one passed through dhcp by the router. A similar problem doesn't
occur at work where we run our own dhcp server and names passed by dhcp
match consistently the ones in /etc/hosts

Could a possible explanation for the workaround you found a latency in
the dhcp negotiation at boot time?

I mean that by the time apache2 is started the interface could be not 
yet configured and the name 'ypig' not yet assigned to it. By the time 
you manually restart apache2 the interface is most likely configured and 
the problem goes away.


If my hypothesis is correct the bug should be filed against the kernel
e/o the libc packages.

hoping to be helpful

 -- Massimo

On 06/09/2011 02:11 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote:

Package: apache2.2-common Version: 2.2.19-1 Severity: normal

After installing the new kernel 2.6.39-2-amd64 and rebooting, I got
in /var/log/boot:

Thu Jun  9 13:41:49 2011: Starting web server: apache2apache2:
apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for ypig Thu Jun  9 13:41:51 2011:
apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified
domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName Thu Jun  9 13:41:51 2011:
.

This error didn't occur with previous kernels, and doesn't occur
after a manual restart with:

/etc/init.d/apache2 restart

My /etc/hosts contains:

127.0.0.1   localhost 127.0.1.1   ypig.lip.ens-lyon.fr ypig

# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1
localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0
ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters

and /etc/nsswitch.conf contains the line:

hosts:  files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4







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Bug#629899: apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed / Could not reliably determine the server's FQDN

2011-06-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2011-06-09 14:41:45 +0200, Massimo Manghi wrote:
 I've run into the same problem recently upgrading to Linux 2.6.38 on my
 home's computer. Symptoms are the shell prompt doesn't show the hostname
 I had assigned at install time, being the hostname displayed instead
 then one passed through dhcp by the router. A similar problem doesn't
 occur at work where we run our own dhcp server and names passed by dhcp
 match consistently the ones in /etc/hosts
 
 Could a possible explanation for the workaround you found a latency in
 the dhcp negotiation at boot time?

Here DHCP *must not* be used to determine the FQDN. It is specified
locally in the /etc/hosts file. This is important, in particular
because one may want to run local services depending on it even when
the external network is not available (the administrator may choose
to use DHCP for the FQDN, but should not be forced to).

 I mean that by the time apache2 is started the interface could be not yet
 configured and the name 'ypig' not yet assigned to it. By the time you
 manually restart apache2 the interface is most likely configured and the
 problem goes away.
 
 If my hypothesis is correct the bug should be filed against the kernel
 e/o the libc packages.

I tried to do an strace to see what was used by apache, but it didn't
succeed.

I have a laptop with the 2.6.39-1-amd64 kernel where DHCP is not used
and /etc/hosts is sufficient to determine the FQDN.

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Bug#629899: apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed / Could not reliably determine the server's FQDN

2011-06-09 Thread Massimo Manghi

On 06/09/2011 03:32 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote:

On 2011-06-09 14:41:45 +0200, Massimo Manghi wrote:

I've run into the same problem recently upgrading to Linux 2.6.38 on my
home's computer. Symptoms are the shell prompt doesn't show the hostname
I had assigned at install time, being the hostname displayed instead
then one passed through dhcp by the router. A similar problem doesn't
occur at work where we run our own dhcp server and names passed by dhcp
match consistently the ones in /etc/hosts

Could a possible explanation for the workaround you found a latency in
the dhcp negotiation at boot time?


Here DHCP *must not* be used to determine the FQDN. It is specified
locally in the /etc/hosts file. This is important, in particular
because one may want to run local services depending on it even when
the external network is not available (the administrator may choose
to use DHCP for the FQDN, but should not be forced to).



I agree with what you say and it doesn't rule out my hypothesis. I don't 
mean dhcp is needed, what I meant is that the problem is in the way the 
hostname and domain are fetched from the configuration. Using DHCP was 
illuminating because I was able to tell where the hostname returned came 
from (and didn't come from /etc/hosts as expected)


More specifically: definitions in /etc/hosts (that were part of the 
determination of the name returned by 'gethostname' prior to the kernel 
upgrade) are now are ignored and the proof is that not only Apache is

affected but also other applications.

Once again my question is: should the bug be moved against the kernel or 
libc?


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Bug#629899: apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed / Could not reliably determine the server's FQDN

2011-06-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2011-06-09 15:46:40 +0200, Massimo Manghi wrote:
 I agree with what you say and it doesn't rule out my hypothesis. I don't
 mean dhcp is needed, what I meant is that the problem is in the way the
 hostname and domain are fetched from the configuration. Using DHCP was
 illuminating because I was able to tell where the hostname returned came
 from (and didn't come from /etc/hosts as expected)

OK.

 More specifically: definitions in /etc/hosts (that were part of the
 determination of the name returned by 'gethostname' prior to the kernel
 upgrade) are now are ignored and the proof is that not only Apache is
 affected but also other applications.

You may see a different bug. On my machine, /etc/hosts is used by
both my fqdn program[*] and by ping. Indeed, just after changing
ypig.lip.ens-lyon.fr to ypig-test.lip.ens-lyon.fr in /etc/hosts,
I get:

ypig:~ fqdn
Nodename: ypig
FQDN: ypig-test.lip.ens-lyon.fr
ypig:~ ping ypig
PING ypig-test.lip.ens-lyon.fr (127.0.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from ypig-test.lip.ens-lyon.fr (127.0.1.1): icmp_req=1 ttl=64 
time=0.029 ms
[...]

But how can I see what Apache chooses?

[*]

#!/usr/bin/env perl

use strict;
use POSIX;

my $nodename = (POSIX::uname)[1];
print Nodename: $nodename\n;

my @ghbn = gethostbyname $nodename;
print FQDN: $ghbn[0]\n;

 Once again my question is: should the bug be moved against the kernel or
 libc?

Definitely not the kernel or libc, unless something wrong occurs
at boot time.

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Bug#629899: apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed / Could not reliably determine the server's FQDN

2011-06-09 Thread Massimo Manghi

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:08:49 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:


Definitely not the kernel or libc, unless something wrong occurs
at boot time.


It's probably so, because I don't see why apache2 is getting it right
after the boot is over and you have gained access to the shell.
That's why I thought you were using dhcp at first.

 -- Massimo





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Bug#629899: apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed / Could not reliably determine the server's FQDN

2011-06-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2011-06-09 15:20:00 +0100, Massimo Manghi wrote:
 On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:08:49 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
 Definitely not the kernel or libc, unless something wrong occurs
 at boot time.
 
 It's probably so, because I don't see why apache2 is getting it right
 after the boot is over and you have gained access to the shell.
 That's why I thought you were using dhcp at first.

Yes, I confirm a possible problem with a recent libc or kernel at
boot time, but this isn't related to DHCP.

On my laptop, on which I do not use DHCP when I'm at home, with the
kernel 2.6.38-2:

Thu Mar 31 21:53:49 2011: Starting HTTP cache proxy server: wwwoffled (offline 
mode) done.

and with the kernel 2.6.39-1:

Sun Jun  5 22:50:14 2011: Starting HTTP cache proxy server: wwwoffled 
wwwoffled[5199] Warning: Failed to get name/IP address for host 'xvii' [No 
address associated with hostname].
Sun Jun  5 22:50:14 2011: (offline mode) done.

and no problems with a manual restart.

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Bug#629899: apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed / Could not reliably determine the server's FQDN

2011-06-09 Thread Massimo Manghi

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:40:07 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:

On 2011-06-09 15:20:00 +0100, Massimo Manghi wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:08:49 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
Definitely not the kernel or libc, unless something wrong occurs
at boot time.

It's probably so, because I don't see why apache2 is getting it 
right

after the boot is over and you have gained access to the shell.
That's why I thought you were using dhcp at first.


Yes, I confirm a possible problem with a recent libc or kernel at
boot time, but this isn't related to DHCP.


I have no doubt: this has nothing to do with DHCP per se. DHCP was
useful to understand that gethostname (or uname) is not working
properly.

I looked up a possible bug already in the database against libc6 or the
kernel-image, but I haven't found any. I think the bug should have
'critical' as severity, since it can break applications started at
boot time that relay on the FQDN to work properly.



On my laptop, on which I do not use DHCP when I'm at home, with the
kernel 2.6.38-2:

Thu Mar 31 21:53:49 2011: Starting HTTP cache proxy server: wwwoffled
(offline mode) done.

and with the kernel 2.6.39-1:

Sun Jun  5 22:50:14 2011: Starting HTTP cache proxy server: wwwoffled
wwwoffled[5199] Warning: Failed to get name/IP address for host 
'xvii'

[No address associated with hostname].
Sun Jun  5 22:50:14 2011: (offline mode) done.

and no problems with a manual restart.


If this is the case the kernel-image package must clearly be the targed
of the bug report.

Do you want to file it yourself? This bug (#629899) could be merged
later with it as soon as it's been registered in the database.

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Bug#629899: apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed / Could not reliably determine the server's FQDN

2011-06-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2011-06-09 16:09:29 +0100, Massimo Manghi wrote:
 On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:40:07 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
 On 2011-06-09 15:20:00 +0100, Massimo Manghi wrote:
 It's probably so, because I don't see why apache2 is getting it right
 after the boot is over and you have gained access to the shell.
 That's why I thought you were using dhcp at first.
 
 Yes, I confirm a possible problem with a recent libc or kernel at
 boot time, but this isn't related to DHCP.
 
 I have no doubt: this has nothing to do with DHCP per se. DHCP was
 useful to understand that gethostname (or uname) is not working
 properly.

Actually I don't think this is the same bug. I cannot reproduce
this bug 629899 concerning apache2, while the bug with wwwoffle
has occurred every time since I upgraded to libc6 2.13.

 and with the kernel 2.6.39-1:
 
 Sun Jun  5 22:50:14 2011: Starting HTTP cache proxy server: wwwoffled
 wwwoffled[5199] Warning: Failed to get name/IP address for host 'xvii'
 [No address associated with hostname].
 Sun Jun  5 22:50:14 2011: (offline mode) done.

After I looked in the logs, I got this actually for the first time
after I upgraded to libc6 2.13.

 If this is the case the kernel-image package must clearly be the targed
 of the bug report.
 
 Do you want to file it yourself? This bug (#629899) could be merged
 later with it as soon as it's been registered in the database.

I've reported the wwwoffle problem against wwwoffle because apache2
on the same machine doesn't have any problem:

  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=629923

wwwoffle may do something special, and the maintainer could reassign
the bug to libc6 (with a testcase) if it appears that the problem
comes from libc6.

I suggest that you report a bug for the problem you get. If you can
reproduce it, you'll have at least more information than me...

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Bug#629899: apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed / Could not reliably determine the server's FQDN

2011-06-09 Thread Massimo Manghi

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:27:23 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:

On 2011-06-09 16:09:29 +0100, Massimo Manghi wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:40:07 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2011-06-09 15:20:00 +0100, Massimo Manghi wrote:
It's probably so, because I don't see why apache2 is getting it 
right

after the boot is over and you have gained access to the shell.
That's why I thought you were using dhcp at first.

Yes, I confirm a possible problem with a recent libc or kernel at
boot time, but this isn't related to DHCP.

I have no doubt: this has nothing to do with DHCP per se. DHCP was
useful to understand that gethostname (or uname) is not working
properly.


Actually I don't think this is the same bug. I cannot reproduce
this bug 629899 concerning apache2, while the bug with wwwoffle
has occurred every time since I upgraded to libc6 2.13.


OK. Wasn't this bug filed against apache2.2-common? Anyway I expect
every application based on apr calling apr_sockaddr_info_get to fail
with a similar reason.




and with the kernel 2.6.39-1:

Sun Jun  5 22:50:14 2011: Starting HTTP cache proxy server: 
wwwoffled
wwwoffled[5199] Warning: Failed to get name/IP address for host 
'xvii'

[No address associated with hostname].
Sun Jun  5 22:50:14 2011: (offline mode) done.


After I looked in the logs, I got this actually for the first time
after I upgraded to libc6 2.13.





I've reported the wwwoffle problem against wwwoffle because apache2
on the same machine doesn't have any problem:

  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=629923

wwwoffle may do something special, and the maintainer could reassign
the bug to libc6 (with a testcase) if it appears that the problem
comes from libc6.

I suggest that you report a bug for the problem you get. If you can
reproduce it, you'll have at least more information than me...


I would file it against libc6 because my conjecture is that different
components layered on libc6 are failing when they probably call 
something

like uname or gethostname.

I cannot image what apr_* and  tcsh have in common except for libc6 
when

they are unable to determine the correct hostname.
Anyway, the bug seems not to be reproducible, not in a deterministic
way at least: tonight I booted my home machine and the hostname was 
displayed

correctly. I'll keep an eye on it to see if it shows up again.

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Bug#629899: apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed / Could not reliably determine the server's FQDN

2011-06-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2011-06-10 00:05:31 +0100, Massimo Manghi wrote:
 On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:27:23 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
 Actually I don't think this is the same bug. I cannot reproduce
 this bug 629899 concerning apache2, while the bug with wwwoffle
 has occurred every time since I upgraded to libc6 2.13.
 
 OK. Wasn't this bug filed against apache2.2-common?

I did reportbug apache2, but the bug was indeed files against
apache2.2-common.

 Anyway I expect every application based on apr calling
 apr_sockaddr_info_get to fail with a similar reason.

I filed a second bug against wwwoffle (which isn't based on libapr,
BTW).

[...]
 wwwoffle may do something special, and the maintainer could reassign
 the bug to libc6 (with a testcase) if it appears that the problem
 comes from libc6.
 
 I suggest that you report a bug for the problem you get. If you can
 reproduce it, you'll have at least more information than me...
 
 I would file it against libc6 because my conjecture is that different
 components layered on libc6 are failing when they probably call something
 like uname or gethostname.

Perhaps, but one needs to know precisely which function is failing.
I doubt the libc6 developers know the wwwoffle internals.

I upgraded another machine (kernel and libc6), and this time, that's
spamassassin that was affected (spamassassin was not upgraded between
the two reboots). But again, I don't know whether this is related to
the problems with apache2 and wwwoffle (apparently not a hostname
problem, but still network related). Just in case:

  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=629984

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