Bug#638008: This bug might already be fixed

2011-09-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
Hi Marcus and Alessandro,

these bugs (java.security.ProviderException: Could not initialize NSS) 
and (SSL connections fail: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsoftokn3.so 
does not exist) sounds like #641305, which I reported yesterday against 
ca-certificates-java, and which Torsten fixed immediately.

Can you check if upgrading to ca-certificates-java 20110912 fixes them?


Damien, your statement Given your libc6 version, you seems to be 
running Debian Squeeze (stable). Generally speaking, we don't provide 
support for mixed installation with experimental with stable packages : 
it won't work. is not generally true [1] - it should work.

Upgrading between Debian stable releases upgrades all software by
2 years, and there are in practice many cases where you cannot do
the upgrade in one run.

And with providing testing and backports Debian is pushing users into 
many more situations where they have a mixture of stable and unstable 
installed.

And if a Debian package runs a Java program in the postinst that is 
usually run in a mixed installation when upgrading from oldstable 
to stable.


cu
Adrian

[1] It is even less true in this case, where you are using this as an 
excuse for not debugging a bug that is also present in a pure unstable.


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Bug#638008: This bug might already be fixed

2011-09-13 Thread Torsten Werner
Hi,

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Adrian Bunk b...@stusta.de wrote:
 these bugs (java.security.ProviderException: Could not initialize NSS)
 and (SSL connections fail: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsoftokn3.so
 does not exist) sounds like #641305, which I reported yesterday against
 ca-certificates-java, and which Torsten fixed immediately.

if have fixed the nss workaround in ca-certificates-java which has
been there for a while but was broken. But I did not fix the JRE
itself. I think the nss.cfg file needs to be updated.

Cheers,
Torsten



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Bug#637337: Bug#638008: This bug might already be fixed

2011-09-13 Thread Marcus Better
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Hi,

On 2011-09-13 12:42, Adrian Bunk wrote:
 these bugs (java.security.ProviderException: Could not initialize
 NSS) and (SSL connections fail:
 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsoftokn3.so does not exist) sounds like
 #641305, which I reported yesterday against ca-certificates-java, and
 which Torsten fixed immediately.
 
 Can you check if upgrading to ca-certificates-java 20110912 fixes
 them?

It does not fix #638008 (SSL connections fail:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsoftokn3.so does not exist). Still the
same exception.

Cheers,

Marcus
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Bug#638008: This bug might already be fixed

2011-09-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 01:18:46PM +0200, Torsten Werner wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Adrian Bunk b...@stusta.de wrote:
  these bugs (java.security.ProviderException: Could not initialize NSS)
  and (SSL connections fail: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsoftokn3.so
  does not exist) sounds like #641305, which I reported yesterday against
  ca-certificates-java, and which Torsten fixed immediately.
 
 if have fixed the nss workaround in ca-certificates-java which has
 been there for a while but was broken. But I did not fix the JRE
 itself. I think the nss.cfg file needs to be updated.

Thanks for that information.

What would be a non-workaround solution that:
- is stable and doesn't break in the future and
- works with both stable and unstable and
- also finds the correct NSS libraries in multi-arch setups with 
  different arch versions of NSS installed? [1]
?

 Cheers,
 Torsten

cu
Adrian

[1] I think your workaround might fail in such situations.

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Bug#638008: This bug might already be fixed

2011-09-13 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
Hi Adrian and others,

Le mardi 13 septembre 2011 12:42:54, Adrian Bunk a écrit :
 Hi Marcus and Alessandro,
[...]
 Damien, your statement Given your libc6 version, you seems to be
 running Debian Squeeze (stable). Generally speaking, we don't provide
 support for mixed installation with experimental with stable packages :
 it won't work. is not generally true [1] - it should work.
[...]
 [1] It is even less true in this case, where you are using this as an
 excuse for not debugging a bug that is also present in a pure unstable.

Andrian, please, don't try to make assomption about what I'm doing or not 
doing. It's annoying and counterproductive : it won't make things fixed faster.

In this particular case : I closed this report (#637337) but keep other one, 
on the same issue but in unstable, open (#638008). So, I have to disagree with 
you : I don't try to hide problem or searching excuse :/

There is two importants things here :

1/ I don't have time to support / give help to people using *stable* with 
*experimental* or *unstable* packages. It's nice if it's work but it's not my 
priority. It's why we have backports after all : provide a repository of 
tested packages from testing to stable users.

 Upgrading between Debian stable releases upgrades all software by
 2 years, and there are in practice many cases where you cannot do
 the upgrade in one run.
 
 And with providing testing and backports Debian is pushing users into
 many more situations where they have a mixture of stable and unstable
 installed.
[...]

2/ yes, of course, we support upgrading from stable to stable-next and during 
this upgrade you'll have a mixed installation. And of course, this issue 
#638008 is clearly serious for next release and 'll be fixed... Seriously, I 
don't understand what you are trying to demonstrate here.

Cheers,
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http://wiki.debian.org/DamienRaudeMorvan



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