Bug#663433: udev: does not load acpiphp on ThinkPad T520 although it is needed for ExpressCard hotplugging
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes: We should build in whichever hotplug drivers can't be auto-loaded. Even if it's known to break some hardware, as Greg KH confirmes in http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-pci/msg11140.html ? Bjørn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#663433: udev: does not load acpiphp on ThinkPad T520 although it is needed for ExpressCard hotplugging
On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 09:31 +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote: Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes: We should build in whichever hotplug drivers can't be auto-loaded. Even if it's known to break some hardware, as Greg KH confirmes in http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-pci/msg11140.html ? This is terrible... there must be some way we can DTRT as it's just not acceptable to require users to configure this. I was under the impression that RH had built-in acpiphp and pciehp now... Matthew? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Life would be so much easier if we could look at the source code. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#663433: udev: does not load acpiphp on ThinkPad T520 although it is needed for ExpressCard hotplugging
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:30:24PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: This is terrible... there must be some way we can DTRT as it's just not acceptable to require users to configure this. I was under the impression that RH had built-in acpiphp and pciehp now... Matthew? Any hardware that's broken by acpiphp is also broken by Windows. I've seen no evidence that anything exists in the real world that would be broken merely by loading this driver. -- Matthew Garrett | mj...@srcf.ucam.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#663433: udev: does not load acpiphp on ThinkPad T520 although it is needed for ExpressCard hotplugging
Package: udev Version: 175-3.1 Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, hotplugging of ExpressCards like my Silicon Image based Delock eSATA controller does not work. The card is only detected when I insert it before booting. It is: merkaba:~ lspci -nn | grep Sili 05:00.0 Mass storage controller [0180]: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3531 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller [1095:3531] (rev 01) I suspect the Express Card slot is just connected to one of these PCI express ports: merkaba:~ lspci -nn | grep -i express 00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 [8086:1c10] (rev b4) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 [8086:1c12] (rev b4) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4 [8086:1c16] (rev b4) 00:1c.4 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 5 [8086:1c18] (rev b4) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation QM67 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller [8086:1c4f] (rev 04) When I put something like # [Bug 35812] New: hotplug of Express Card eSATA controller in ThinkPad T520 # does not work # https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35812 acpiphp in /etc/modules and rebuild initramfs hotplugging of ExpressCard´s works as expected. Expected results: udev loads acpiphp on the ThinkPad T520 and other laptops with ExpressCard support. According to an article in c`t Linux kompakt 1/2012 also quite some other business laptops are affected by this. I reported it upstream on kernel.org back then, but maybe it is more of a userspace, of a udev issue, cause when the module is loaded hot plugging of Express Cards does work as expected. Thanks, Martin -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (120, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages udev depends on: ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.41 ii libc6 2.13-27 ii libselinux12.1.9-2 ii libudev0 175-3.1 ii lsb-base 3.2+Debian30 ii util-linux 2.20.1-4 Versions of packages udev recommends: ii pciutils 1:3.1.8-2 ii usbutils 1:005-2 udev suggests no packages. -- debconf information: udev/new_kernel_needed: false udev/title/upgrade: udev/reboot_needed: udev/sysfs_deprecated_incompatibility: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#663433: udev: does not load acpiphp on ThinkPad T520 although it is needed for ExpressCard hotplugging
reassign 663433 linux-2.6 thanks On Mar 11, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: I reported it upstream on kernel.org back then, but maybe it is more of a userspace, of a udev issue, cause when the module is loaded hot plugging of Express Cards does work as expected. The module does not provide any aliases for autoloading. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#663433: udev: does not load acpiphp on ThinkPad T520 although it is needed for ExpressCard hotplugging
Am Sonntag, 11. März 2012 schrieb Marco d'Itri: reassign 663433 linux-2.6 thanks On Mar 11, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: I reported it upstream on kernel.org back then, but maybe it is more of a userspace, of a udev issue, cause when the module is loaded hot plugging of Express Cards does work as expected. The module does not provide any aliases for autoloading. Thanks for that ultra quick answer. I am willing to reopen the bug report at kernel.org if something should be changed upstream and I precisely understand what it is. So please advice. Is it sufficient for ask for module aliases being added upstream? If I know how I can provide the necessary info for my ThinkPad T520. Thanks and have a nice sunday, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#663433: udev: does not load acpiphp on ThinkPad T520 although it is needed for ExpressCard hotplugging
On Mar 11, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: So please advice. Is it sufficient for ask for module aliases being added upstream? If I know how I can provide the necessary info for my ThinkPad T520. I am not familiar with ExpressCard, so I do not know exactly what is needed. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#663433: udev: does not load acpiphp on ThinkPad T520 although it is needed for ExpressCard hotplugging
Am Sonntag, 11. März 2012 schrieb Marco d'Itri: On Mar 11, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: So please advice. Is it sufficient for ask for module aliases being added upstream? If I know how I can provide the necessary info for my ThinkPad T520. I am not familiar with ExpressCard, so I do not know exactly what is needed. No problem. Maybe someone from the Debian kernel team knows. If not I can also ask upstream. Sorry for not dropping cont...@bugs.debian.org. Thanks, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#663433: udev: does not load acpiphp on ThinkPad T520 although it is needed for ExpressCard hotplugging
Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Am Sonntag, 11. März 2012 schrieb Marco d'Itri: On Mar 11, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: So please advice. Is it sufficient for ask for module aliases being added upstream? If I know how I can provide the necessary info for my ThinkPad T520. I am not familiar with ExpressCard, so I do not know exactly what is needed. No problem. Maybe someone from the Debian kernel team knows. If not I can also ask upstream. The issue has already been discussed among the upstream experts. See e.g. http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-pci/msg11140.html for an explanation why autoloading acpiphp on all machines historically has been impossible. Don't know if anything ever came out of this though: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-pci/msg11148.html If not, then I guess a distribution could add an init script which checked DMI dates and loaded acpiphp by default on all modern machines. It's a pity that users have to research this themselves to get ExpressCard slots working. Bjørn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#663433: udev: does not load acpiphp on ThinkPad T520 although it is needed for ExpressCard hotplugging
On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 23:00 +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Am Sonntag, 11. März 2012 schrieb Marco d'Itri: On Mar 11, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: So please advice. Is it sufficient for ask for module aliases being added upstream? If I know how I can provide the necessary info for my ThinkPad T520. I am not familiar with ExpressCard, so I do not know exactly what is needed. No problem. Maybe someone from the Debian kernel team knows. If not I can also ask upstream. The issue has already been discussed among the upstream experts. See e.g. http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-pci/msg11140.html for an explanation why autoloading acpiphp on all machines historically has been impossible. Don't know if anything ever came out of this though: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-pci/msg11148.html If not, then I guess a distribution could add an init script which checked DMI dates and loaded acpiphp by default on all modern machines. It's a pity that users have to research this themselves to get ExpressCard slots working. We should build in whichever hotplug drivers can't be auto-loaded. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. - Harrison signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
