Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2013-01-10 Thread Jonathan Nieder
fixed 665881 linux-2.6/3.3~rc6-1~experimental.1
found 665881 linux/3.2.35-2
# not fixed in 3.2.y yet
tags 665881 - fixed-upstream
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Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

> I installed linux-image-3.3.0-rc6-amd64_3.3~rc6-1~experimental.1_amd64.deb 
> from snapshots.debian.org, and its headers, but the bug never appeared.
>
> I did almos 10 - 15 rebootsx with no appearence of the bug.
>
> Then I started 3.2 kernel and the bug appeared again.

Thanks, Hans.  Marking accordingly so we don't forget.

Am I correct in assuming the 3.2 kernel in question is 3.2.35-2?

The next step is for us to ferret out another upstream patch to test.
If you're bored before then, here are instructions for performing a
"reverse bisect" to find when the fix seems to have been introduced.
These instructions will probably be confusing: remember that a "good"
kernel is one that successfully reproduces the bug, while a "bad" one
is one that does not reproduce it.

0. get the kernel history, if you don't already have it:
git clone \
  
https://kernel.googlesource.com/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git

1. initialize the bisection, configure, build, test:
cd linux
git bisect start
git checkout v3.2
cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) .config; # current configuration
make localmodconfig; # optional: minimize configuration
make deb-pkg; # optionally with -j for parallel build
dpkg -i ../; # as root
reboot
...test test test ...

  Hopefully it reproduces the bug, so:

git bisect good; # it reproduced the bug!

2. confirm upper bound:
cd linux
git checkout v3.3-rc6
make deb-pkg; # maybe with -j4
dpkg -i ../; # as root
reboot
... test test test ...

   Hopefully it does not reproduce the bug, so:

cd linux
git bisect bad

3. A version half-way between is automatically checked out for
   testing.  Test:

make deb-pkg; # maybe with -j4
dpkg -i ../; # as root
reboot
...test test test ...

   Record the result:

cd linux
git bisect good; # if it reproduces the bug
git bisect bad; # if rebooting a few times does not reproduce it
git bisect skip; # if some other bug makes it hard to test

   Repeat.

Eventually git tells you the "first bad commit", which is the patch
that alleviated symptoms.  If the "gitk" package is installed, you can
see the range of candidates at any step by running "git bisect
visualize".  To stop early, run "git bisect log", which produces a log
that others can use to see your results so far or pick up where you
left off.  Even a few rounds can narrow down the search by quite a
bit.

You can read more about the "git bisect" tool at
http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-bisect-lk2009.html
but remember, for us a "bad" commit is a commit _not_ exhibiting the
bug and a "good" commit is one that successfully reproduces the bug.

Thanks again for your patience.  Hopefully we will have a better idea
of what's going on soon.

Regards,
Jonathan


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2013-01-10 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi Jonathan and Ben.

Some special news. I tested again.

I installed linux-image-3.3.0-rc6-amd64_3.3~rc6-1~experimental.1_amd64.deb 
from snapshots.debian.org, and its headers, but the bug never appeared.

I did almos 10 - 15 rebootsx with no appearence of the bug.

Then I started 3.2 kernel and the bug appeared again. Maybe this information 
might be important for you. However, I guess I already tested this in the 
past, but this time all packagesd are up-to-date (state from today, of 
course).

Hope this helps!

Greets

Hans


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2013-01-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 14:54 +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> Hi jonatahan,
> 
> happy new year! 
> > 
> > >> Hadn't you tested 3.3-rc6 and found it to work ok?
> > > 
> > > No, I never did. Maybe I should.
> > 
> 
> Hmm, I could not find it in the repositories and neither in 
> backports.debian.org. I remember, there is another source, where packages go, 
> but I forgot, where it was.
> 
> Can you point me to, where I find a 3.3-rc6-kernel-package? I guess, I will 
> find 
> the headers there, too.

http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux-2.6/

(also http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux/ for later versions)

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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2013-01-01 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi Jonathan,

I already tested 3.3-rc6. Just look into the history of this bugreport.

Shall I test it new? Due to my tests in the past, it might be rather possible, 
to find out, in which kernel version and where a change was made, to inhibit 
the described behaviour.

IMO it never appeared in 3.4 and higher.

Hans


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2013-01-01 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi jonatahan,

happy new year! 
> 
> >> Hadn't you tested 3.3-rc6 and found it to work ok?
> > 
> > No, I never did. Maybe I should.
> 

Hmm, I could not find it in the repositories and neither in 
backports.debian.org. I remember, there is another source, where packages go, 
but I forgot, where it was.

Can you point me to, where I find a 3.3-rc6-kernel-package? I guess, I will 
find 
the headers there, too.

Cheers

Hans


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-12-31 Thread Jonathan Nieder
tags 665881 - moreinfo
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Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

> It patched fine, it loaded fine, but the bug did not disappear.

Excellent.  I assume you applied all four patches.  Thanks for
checking.

>> Hadn't you tested 3.3-rc6 and found it to work ok?
>
> No, I never did. Maybe I should. 

I was referring to [1].  Given how hard this is to reproduce, I guess
it couldn't hurt to try it and 3.2.y again.

Thanks again for ruling out the calibration patches as the fix.  I
don't have any great ideas for what to try next, unfortunately.  I'll
be thinking about it more.

Sincerely,
Jonathan

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=271;bug=665881


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-12-31 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi Jonathan!
> Gah, that's way more work than should be required. Did the module
> eventually load and just not work well, or were the instructions in my
> message or in the kernel handbook broken? (The latter would be a very
> serious bug, more serious than any particular instance of missing hardware
> support.)
> 

It patched fine, it loaded fine, but the bug did not disappear.
> Hadn't you tested 3.3-rc6 and found it to work ok?
> 
No, I never did. Maybe I should. 

> [...]
> 
> 
> It sounds like debuginfo is not disabled like it should be. Did you forget
> to run scripts/config --disable DEBUG_INFO?

Ahm I forgot. I just build the whole kernel with make-kpkg -j4 --initrd 
kernel-image 
> 
> Sorry for the trouble and hope that helps.

Next time, I will try better.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jonathan

Greets

Hans


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-12-31 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

> After several tries and 5 hours of compiling, I am sad, to tell you, the
> patch, Ben sent me, is not working.

Gah, that's way more work than should be required. Did the module
eventually load and just not work well, or were the instructions in my
message or in the kernel handbook broken? (The latter would be a very
serious bug, more serious than any particular instance of missing hardware
support.)

> Just before you take work into a new patch, let me first try kernel-3.4,
which
> might be also possible to be released into next debian stable. Ben told
so.

I think you misunderstood, unfortunately. The wheezy kernel will be 3.2.y,
but individual drivers can be backported when the new version is well
tested.

> I tested 3.1, 3.2, 3,5 and 3.6, but NOT 3.4! So maybe 3.4 might work as
> wished, then no other action has to be done - just release debian with
3.4!

Hadn't you tested 3.3-rc6 and found it to work ok?

[...]
> It has
> only 20G, so kernel building breaks, with "no space left on device".

It sounds like debuginfo is not disabled like it should be. Did you forget
to run scripts/config --disable DEBUG_INFO?

Sorry for the trouble and hope that helps.

Sincerely,
Jonathan


Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-12-31 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi Ben, hi Jonathan!

After several tries and 5 hours of compiling, I am sad, to tell you, the 
patch, Ben sent me, is not working.

Just before you take work into a new patch, let me first try kernel-3.4, which 
might be also possible to be released into next debian stable. Ben told so.

I tested 3.1, 3.2, 3,5 and 3.6, but NOT 3.4! So maybe 3.4 might work as 
wished, then no other action has to be done - just release debian with 3.4!

However, if kernel-3.2 shall be in next release, I am willing to test it for 
you. Maybe it will be easier, if you send me a precompiled module, which I 
then will test here.

Please let me explain: I am not too lazy to compile, but my system is not good 
prepared for it. The main problem is, my /usr partition is too small. It has 
only 20G, so kernel building breaks, with "no space left on device".

I built the kernel now on my older 64-bit-machine, which has only 512 MB RAM 
and is rather slow. 

It is not possible for me, to increase /usr (i.e. with gparted) without data 
loss, for it is ecrypted with luks.

This just a little bit of information, why I am not so fast with the kernel 
building. All machines I am using (my 64-bit notebook, the 64-bit desktop-pc, 
my netbook and so on) are mostly permanently needed for my work, so they 
should not be killed somehow. I am happy, when they are working as wished!

However, as I said, I am happy, when I can help, but results may be last a 
little longer as expected due to my "weired" environment.

Thanks for your patience and best regards

Hans



 


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-12-30 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

> Sure! I did the following: Installed all needed packages, unpacked the source 
> package and made a symlink /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-source-3.2
>
> Patched: patch -p1 < /mypath/blah/0001ath5kxx.patch
> So I did with all patches.
>
> Then copied /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 to /usr/src/linux/.config (so I got 
> also 
> the version, worked before in the past this way).
>
> After that make menuconfig to check.
>
> Building then:  make modules, because I just wanted to build only the ath5k 
> module. 
>
> At last I copied the newly build module ath5k.ko and replaced it with the new 
> built one.
>
> depmod -a finished all.

Thanks.  The ABI of the module you built doesn't match the ABI of the
installed kernel.  Here's how I'd finish from there:

scripts/config --disable DEBUG_INFO; # makes the build a lot smaller
make deb-pkg; # optionally with -j for parallel build
dpkg -i ../; # as root

http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html has more
details.  FWIW all ideas for making that document more useful would be
welcome --- making it easy for users to build a custom kernel is very
important since it is what makes communication with upstream possible. :)

[...]
>   But my time is limited, 
> as I cannot run compilatiuon at work and in the evening the time is often too 
> short, to run a compilation.

Yes, no problem.  When time is short, we can wait --- as long as it is
clear how long to expect for a reply, waiting doesn't interfere much
with other work.

Regards,
Jonathan


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-12-30 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi Jonathan,
> 
> Could you send the command you used?  Generally you need to install
> the new Debian package you built and reboot to test, but there are
> other possibilities, too.  The above doesn't tell me enough to know
> what went wrong.

Sure! I did the following: Installed all needed packages, unpacked the source 
package and made a symlink /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-source-3.2

Patched: patch -p1 < /mypath/blah/0001ath5kxx.patch
So I did with all patches.

Then copied /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 to /usr/src/linux/.config (so I got also 
the version, worked before in the past this way).

After that make menuconfig to check.

Building then:  make modules, because I just wanted to build only the ath5k 
module. 

At last I copied the newly build module ath5k.ko and replaced it with the new 
built one.

depmod -a finished all.

> 
> You've made this same argument before.  The sad situation we're in is
> that only a small fraction of Debian users report bugs.  You're a
> representative of quiet masses of Debian users, potential Debian
> users, and other Linux users with similar hardware.  Meanwhile
> stubborn people like me want to see all easily-fixable hardware
> support bugs fixed, even if they only affect one person.
> 

Well, if there are other people with the same problem, leave it open. Very ok 
for me! I just did not want to waste your time for a single person (=me), who 
cannot give much help back.

> Sorry for the burden, but it really does help.
> 
> Of course if you're sick of it, that's also fine --- we can mark the
> bug as unreproducible, stop bothering you, and probably close it in a
> couple of weeks.

No, I am not sick and I will try it in the next time. But my time is limited, 
as I cannot run compilatiuon at work and in the evening the time is often too 
short, to run a compilation.

> 
> Hoping that clarifies,
> Jonathan

Best regards

Hans


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-12-30 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi Hans,

Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

> so, now after hours and hours of compiling, I could not manage to get the 
> patched module loaded. The system is telling something of "version mismatch".

Could you send the command you used?  Generally you need to install
the new Debian package you built and reboot to test, but there are
other possibilities, too.  The above doesn't tell me enough to know
what went wrong.

> Whatever, I think, just close the bug and do no more efforts in fixing the 
> bug, 
> it is itz not worth for the following reasons:
>
> 1. This bug is now since kernel 3.1 and no one cared of it - except of me.

You've made this same argument before.  The sad situation we're in is
that only a small fraction of Debian users report bugs.  You're a
representative of quiet masses of Debian users, potential Debian
users, and other Linux users with similar hardware.  Meanwhile
stubborn people like me want to see all easily-fixable hardware
support bugs fixed, even if they only affect one person.

Sorry for the burden, but it really does help.

Of course if you're sick of it, that's also fine --- we can mark the
bug as unreproducible, stop bothering you, and probably close it in a
couple of weeks.

Hoping that clarifies,
Jonathan


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2012-09-15 at 14:39 +0200, elrond wrote:
> According to this thread [1], these two patches [2][3] should fix the
> issue. Can you backport to Wheezy kernel?
[...]

These are not obviously applicable to 3.2; in fact I think they may be
fixing a different problem.

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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-15 Thread Jonathan Nieder
tags 681232 - moreinfo
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elrond wrote:

> According to this thread [1], these two patches [2][3] should fix the
> issue.

Don't those depend on the calibration rework from 3.3?

Thanks,
Jonathan

> [1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=139270
> [2] [...];h=62e2c102cc1d2600381410c089ca9a37359577d2
> [3] [...];h=5c17ddc4a047c59638c7eb8537aa887a1ddb9b0b


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-15 Thread elrond
According to this thread [1], these two patches [2][3] should fix the
issue. Can you backport to Wheezy kernel?

Cheers



[1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=139270
[2] 
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git;a=commitdiff;h=62e2c102cc1d2600381410c089ca9a37359577d2
[3] 
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c17ddc4a047c59638c7eb8537aa887a1ddb9b0b


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-13 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

[...]
> Error: Module powernow_k8 is in use
>
> modinfo powernow-k8 | grep depends
> depends:processor,mperf
>
> rmmod mperf
> Error: Module mperf is in use by: powernow_k8
>
> rmmod processor
> Error: Module processor is in use by: powernow_k8

Heh.  A circular dependency.

Does "modprobe -r powernow_k8" work?  If not, how about
"for module in powernow_k8 processor mperf; do rmmod -w $module; done"?


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-13 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi Jonathan,

sorry for my late answer. I was tired and early in bed yesterday.

Well,  this is what the system is telling me (please do not matter, that this 
example was made with 3.5. But there is no difference to 3.2):


rmmod powernow-k8
Error: Module powernow_k8 is in use

modinfo powernow-k8 | grep depends
depends:processor,mperf

rmmod mperf
Error: Module mperf is in use by: powernow_k8


rmmod processor
Error: Module processor is in use by: powernow_k8

lsmod | grep freq
cpufreq_conservative13147  0 
cpufreq_stats  12866  0 
cpufreq_userspace  12576  0 
cpufreq_powersave  12454  0

The last four I could unload, but powernow-k8 still not.

Hans


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-12 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

>powernow-k8 can not be unloaded.

What is the message in the kernel log when you try?


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-12 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 schrieb Jonathan Nieder:
> notfound 665881 linux-2.6/3.3-1~experimental.1

> Does the problem go away if you unload the cpufreq driver
> (powernow_k8)?

Jonathan, I apologize, but powernow-k8 can not be unloaded. The kernel 
inhibits it. Of course I unloaded all dependent modules of powernow-k8 and all 
cpufreq-*.

But no success.

Sorry I can not tell better things.

Hans


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-12 Thread Jonathan Nieder
notfound 665881 linux-2.6/3.3-1~experimental.1
# Hans can reproduce it now --- nice!
tags 665881 - unreproducible
quit

Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 schrieb Jonathan Nieder:

>> Have you tested 3.2.23-1 again?
[...]
> I did, and the bug reappeared.

Oh, excellent!

Does the problem go away if you unload the cpufreq driver
(powernow_k8)?


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-12 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 schrieb Jonathan Nieder:
> Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> > With 3.3-rc6 not a single problem during my tests.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> >However, it might be a
> > 
> > coincidence, but with 3.223, it happend almost every time, and with 3.3
> > not a single one.
> 
> Have you tested 3.2.23-1 again?  If not, please do.
> 
> Jonathan

I did, and the bug reappeared.

Hans


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-12 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

> With 3.3-rc6 not a single problem during my tests.

Thanks.

>However, it might be a 
> coincidence, but with 3.223, it happend almost every time, and with 3.3 not a 
> single one.

Have you tested 3.2.23-1 again?  If not, please do.

Jonathan


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-12 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 schrieb Jonathan Nieder:
Well, tested again. 10 times each.
> It means my guess was wrong.  Could you try the following two?
> 
>  - 3.3-rc6
>  - 3.2.23-1 again
> 

With 3.3-rc6 not a single problem during my tests. However, it might be a 
coincidence, but with 3.223, it happend almost every time, and with 3.3 not a 
single one.

So maybe there is a fix since 3.3. :)) 

> Sorry for the fuss,
> Jonathan

Cheers,

Hans


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-12 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

> However, I tested now 3.3 and 3.4. None of them showed any problems (rebooted 
> both each 10 times, Windows - Linux - Windows - Linux and so on.)

It means my guess was wrong.  Could you try the following two?

 - 3.3-rc6
 - 3.2.23-1 again

Sorry for the fuss,
Jonathan


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-12 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 schrieb Jonathan Nieder:
Hi Jonathan, 
> Hi again,
> 
> Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> > I would like to help. Can you tell me, where I find the packages of
> > 3.3 and 3.4 images? I did not find them in the debian repositories.
> 
> http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux-2.6/

Thank you for pointing me to this. I lookes at backports.debian.org, so I 
didn't find.

However, I tested now 3.3 and 3.4. None of them showed any problems (rebooted 
both each 10 times, Windows - Linux - Windows - Linux and so on.)

I do not know, if this is good or evil. However, i am still running 3.5 from 
experimental, as I guess, 3.3 and 3.4 will not make it into testing.

Still no problems, yet. I will test it now for a while, if no problems will 
occur in the next time, I will send you feedback.

Thumbs up! 

Hans


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-12 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi again,

Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

> I would like to help. Can you tell me, where I find the packages of
> 3.3 and 3.4 images? I did not find them in the debian repositories.

http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux-2.6/


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-11 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich

> I have my guesses about causes, but I am keeping them to myself until
> we have the additional information I asked about, namely how 3.3.6 and
> 3.4.1 do.
> 

I would like to help. Can you tell me, where I find the packages of 3.3 and 3.4 
images? I did not find them in the debian repositories.

> Thanks for your patience, and sorry for the lack of clarity.

No problem.

> Jonathan


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-11 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

> Yes, it happened at once. Right after I booted Win7 and then booted into Linux
> again. 

Ok, very good.

[...]
>> If it did, and assuming you rebooted out of Windows 7 to try it,
>> there is no need to test 3.5.y any more.  We already know it doesn't
>> reproduce the bug under the same circumstances as 3.2.y did.
>
> So you know the reasons.

No.  We know the above because of the information you provided!

 * 3.2.y triggers the bug reproducibly
 * 3.5.y does not trigger the bug reproducibly

I have my guesses about causes, but I am keeping them to myself until
we have the additional information I asked about, namely how 3.3.6 and
3.4.1 do.

Thanks for your patience, and sorry for the lack of clarity.
Jonathan


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-11 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich

> Ok, that is how I understood it the first time.
> 
> My question still stands: when it happened every time, did it happen
> right away?
> 

Yes, it happened at once. Right after I booted Win7 and then booted into Linux 
again. 

It happened also, when I booted Win 7, shut down the computer, powered off 
(power supply and power cell), and then started Linux.

Did I describe it now better?
> If it did, and assuming you rebooted out of Windows 7 to try it,
> there is no need to test 3.5.y any more.  We already know it doesn't
> reproduce the bug under the same circumstances as 3.2.y did.
> 

So you know the reasons. That is really good news! I read about, that 3.5 
changed several things in bus strategies. 

> Hoping that clarifies,
> Jonathan

Thank you very much!

Hans


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-11 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 11. September 2012 schrieb Jonathan Nieder:

>> Ah, I think I see where I misunderstood.  When you said "The described
>> behavior appears EVERY TIME", did you mean that it appears after a
>> while (how long?), and not necessarily the first time you try to use
>> wireless after rebooting out of Windows 7 into Linux?
>
> No, I meant it this way: I started Windows 7,  then rebooted and started again
> choosing "Linux", then the bahviour appeared every time (hmm, maybe "each
> time" might be the better English expression).

Ok, that is how I understood it the first time.

My question still stands: when it happened every time, did it happen
right away?

If it did, and assuming you rebooted out of Windows 7 to try it,
there is no need to test 3.5.y any more.  We already know it doesn't
reproduce the bug under the same circumstances as 3.2.y did.

Hoping that clarifies,
Jonathan


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-11 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Dienstag, 11. September 2012 schrieb Jonathan Nieder:

> Ah, I think I see where I misunderstood.  When you said "The described
> behavior appears EVERY TIME", did you mean that it appears after a
> while (how long?), and not necessarily the first time you try to use
> wireless after rebooting out of Windows 7 into Linux?

No, I meant it this way: I started Windows 7,  then rebooted and started again 
choosing "Linux", then the bahviour appeared every time (hmm, maybe "each 
time" might be the better English expression).

So I guessed, that Windows switched something in the wirelesscard or the bus.
 
> 
> Jonathan

Hans


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-11 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 11. September 2012 schrieb Jonathan Nieder:

>> Drat.  Am I correct in guessing that the prebuilt 3.3.6 package from
>> http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux-2.6/ reproduces it, while
>> 3.4.1 does not?
>
> Huh, I did not test those versions. I just tested 3.2-xx (stock debian 
> testing) and now at your advice version 3.5. (experimental)
>
> If 3.5 will work, I can test 3.3 and 3.4, too, if needed.

Ah, I think I see where I misunderstood.  When you said "The described
behavior appears EVERY TIME", did you mean that it appears after a
while (how long?), and not necessarily the first time you try to use
wireless after rebooting out of Windows 7 into Linux?

Jonathan


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-11 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Dienstag, 11. September 2012 schrieb Jonathan Nieder:
> Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> > Well, I installed now 3.5-trunk-amd64 from experimental. First tests are
> > showing good results.
> 
> Drat.  Am I correct in guessing that the prebuilt 3.3.6 package from
> http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux-2.6/ reproduces it, while
> 3.4.1 does not?
>

Huh, I did not test those versions. I just tested 3.2-xx (stock debian 
testing) and now at your advice version 3.5. (experimental)

If 3.5 will work, I can test 3.3 and 3.4, too, if needed.
  
> Jonathan


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-11 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

> Well, I installed now 3.5-trunk-amd64 from experimental. First tests are 
> showing good results.

Drat.  Am I correct in guessing that the prebuilt 3.3.6 package from
http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux-2.6/ reproduces it, while
3.4.1 does not?

Jonathan


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-11 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Montag, 10. September 2012 schrieb Jonathan Nieder:
> Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
Hi Jonathan,

> > 1. The described behaviour appears EVERY TIME, when I started Windows 7
> > on this system, and rebooted to linux again.
> 
> That's very good to hear.  Can you reproduce this with 3.5.y from
> experimental?
> 

Well, I installed now 3.5-trunk-amd64 from experimental. First tests are 
showing good results. I still could not reproduce the behaviour with this 
kernel. But it is too early, to make a final conclusion. So I will test it now 
for a few days and will then send a report.

> If so, please send a description of the symptoms to
> linux-wirel...@vger.kernel.org, cc-ing ath5k-de...@lists.ath5k.org,
> Nick Kossifidis , and either me or this bug log
> so we can track it.  Be sure to mention
> 
>  - steps to reproduce, expected result, actual result, and how the
>difference indicates a bug (should be simple enough)
> 
>  - which kernel versions you have tested and what happened with
>each
> 
>  - full "dmesg" output from booting and trying to use wireless in the
>affected state, as an attachment
> 
>  - any other weird symptoms or observations
> 

Yes, if any strange behaviours occure, I will send them to the list. My 
current system is debian-testing, which I am running on several computers 
(mostly daily updated). These are 2 x amd64-cpus (a notebook Acer Aspire 7520G 
and a Desktop PC) and my Asus EEEPC 1005 HGO (i386).

> Hopefully the symptoms will ring a bell for someone, who can provide
> instructions or a patch to track down the cause further.

Yeah, that might be great!
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Jonathan

Thanky for the help.

Best regards

Hans


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Bug#665881: [wheezy] module ath5k is blocking wlan-card

2012-09-10 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

> 1. The described behaviour appears EVERY TIME, when I started Windows 7 on 
> this system, and rebooted to linux again. 

That's very good to hear.  Can you reproduce this with 3.5.y from
experimental?

If so, please send a description of the symptoms to
linux-wirel...@vger.kernel.org, cc-ing ath5k-de...@lists.ath5k.org,
Nick Kossifidis , and either me or this bug log
so we can track it.  Be sure to mention

 - steps to reproduce, expected result, actual result, and how the
   difference indicates a bug (should be simple enough)

 - which kernel versions you have tested and what happened with
   each

 - full "dmesg" output from booting and trying to use wireless in the
   affected state, as an attachment

 - any other weird symptoms or observations

Hopefully the symptoms will ring a bell for someone, who can provide
instructions or a patch to track down the cause further.

Hope that helps,
Jonathan


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