Bug#679453: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#679453: debian: When Using XFCE Various Programs Default to Nautilus Instead of Thunar
reassign 679453 libexo-common notfound 679453 0.8.0-1 thanks On lun., 2012-07-02 at 02:07 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > On 02/07/12 12:19 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > On dim., 2012-07-01 at 17:53 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > >> Well I gave a specific example of Iceweasel opening Nautilus instead of > >> Thunar (I'll add, e.g. when doing Open Containing Folder), but the this > >> isn't an issue of a specific problem but of the way application > >> preferences are handled around MIME-types because they all default to > >> the GNOMEish behaviour if GNOME components are present. > > > > And for this specific case, did you check that chosing the file manager > > in preferred applications settings didn't fix it? > > Er, no didn't know about that setting, but why is it defaulting to > Nautilus in the first place. Why not Thunar, which is what it what it > should be for an XFCE desktop? Fwiw, it's the case in 4.10 (/etc/xdg/xfce4/helpers.rc contains FileManager=Thunar). Might be worth changing that for 4.8 so Wheezy users having both don't rely on alphabetic numbering, although it's not really critical. Regards, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#679453: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#679453: debian: When Using XFCE Various Programs Default to Nautilus Instead of Thunar
On 02/07/12 12:19 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On dim., 2012-07-01 at 17:53 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: >> Well I gave a specific example of Iceweasel opening Nautilus instead of >> Thunar (I'll add, e.g. when doing Open Containing Folder), but the this >> isn't an issue of a specific problem but of the way application >> preferences are handled around MIME-types because they all default to >> the GNOMEish behaviour if GNOME components are present. > > And for this specific case, did you check that chosing the file manager > in preferred applications settings didn't fix it? Er, no didn't know about that setting, but why is it defaulting to Nautilus in the first place. Why not Thunar, which is what it what it should be for an XFCE desktop? There are lot of cases like this, but I hadn't filed bugs yet because I know mime-types stuff was in flux due to other bugs. Since it sounds like that isn't the case now, I'll report on a case-by-case basis, but I'm wondering if there couldn't be a more organized approach than stumbling across each specific case. Regards, Daniel -- hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#679453: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#679453: debian: When Using XFCE Various Programs Default to Nautilus Instead of Thunar
On dim., 2012-07-01 at 17:53 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > Well I gave a specific example of Iceweasel opening Nautilus instead of > Thunar (I'll add, e.g. when doing Open Containing Folder), but the this > isn't an issue of a specific problem but of the way application > preferences are handled around MIME-types because they all default to > the GNOMEish behaviour if GNOME components are present. And for this specific case, did you check that chosing the file manager in preferred applications settings didn't fix it? Regards, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#679453: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#679453: debian: When Using XFCE Various Programs Default to Nautilus Instead of Thunar
On 30/06/12 02:51 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On sam., 2012-06-30 at 18:40 +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: >> reassign 679453 xfce4 >> thanks >> >> Daniel Dickinson writes: >> >>> Package: debian >>> Severity: normal >> >> Unfortunately, there is no 'debian' package, so the report you filed >> wasn't forwarded to any maintainer who could do something about it. >> >> When filing Debian bugs, please file them against particular packages >> that exist, or virtual packages. >> >>> I have noticed that when using XFCE with some programs that are >>> Gnome-centric that parts of GNOME get installed and that instead of >>> using XFCE defaults for applications (probably by MIME) (e.g. Thunar >>> for fhle management) that programs like Iceweasel will use GNOME >>> default apps. This is a major pain because without the full GNOME >>> desktop default Gnome bits don't work well, and besides I want (and >>> prefer) the XFCE (which is my desktop environment I am running) bits. > > Well, you should be able to chose what applications run in two ways: > > * in preferred applications, you can chose stuff like browser, file > manager, mail client etc. > * in the file manager, in a file properties you're able to chose what > application will open what kind of file > > Now you would need to provide specific non-working stuff for us to do > anything. >> >> ...however, in this case, I do not know what would be the appropriate >> package to file it against. I'm reassigning it to xfce4, so the XFCE >> maintainers can further process it, if necessary. > > I just can't do anything with that, unfortunately :) Well I gave a specific example of Iceweasel opening Nautilus instead of Thunar (I'll add, e.g. when doing Open Containing Folder), but the this isn't an issue of a specific problem but of the way application preferences are handled around MIME-types because they all default to the GNOMEish behaviour if GNOME components are present. It's an general architectural problem not a specific-instance bug. GNOME folks are unlikely to care, or at least in the past haven't cared about non-GNOME users. Maybe it's changed in the past few years I've been not stayed particularly connected to what's going on in Debian. Regards, Daniel -- hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#679453: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#679453: debian: When Using XFCE Various Programs Default to Nautilus Instead of Thunar
On sam., 2012-06-30 at 18:40 +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: > reassign 679453 xfce4 > thanks > > Daniel Dickinson writes: > > > Package: debian > > Severity: normal > > Unfortunately, there is no 'debian' package, so the report you filed > wasn't forwarded to any maintainer who could do something about it. > > When filing Debian bugs, please file them against particular packages > that exist, or virtual packages. > > > I have noticed that when using XFCE with some programs that are > > Gnome-centric that parts of GNOME get installed and that instead of > > using XFCE defaults for applications (probably by MIME) (e.g. Thunar > > for fhle management) that programs like Iceweasel will use GNOME > > default apps. This is a major pain because without the full GNOME > > desktop default Gnome bits don't work well, and besides I want (and > > prefer) the XFCE (which is my desktop environment I am running) bits. Well, you should be able to chose what applications run in two ways: * in preferred applications, you can chose stuff like browser, file manager, mail client etc. * in the file manager, in a file properties you're able to chose what application will open what kind of file Now you would need to provide specific non-working stuff for us to do anything. > > ...however, in this case, I do not know what would be the appropriate > package to file it against. I'm reassigning it to xfce4, so the XFCE > maintainers can further process it, if necessary. I just can't do anything with that, unfortunately :) -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
