Bug#680519: please do depend on gdm3 for lxde-desktop

2012-07-07 Thread Daniel Baumann
Touko Korpela touko.korp...@iki.fi wrote:
 Isn't it too big?

for the live images, we've always been using gdm/gdm3 in lxde-desktop,
for the installer (via tasksel), up to squeeze, gdm was used too.

i don't think it's to big.

having lxdm at some later point though, is nice, and i wouldn't mind the
size decrease it bringts, however, until then the size difference
doesn't matter much.

otoh, choosing xdm is a no-go anyway, it doesn't support autologin
(which is essential for live systems) and i don't think that the the
installer (via tasksel) should use anything different than what we do
with the live systems.

 Shouldn't it use lightdm by default like Xfce does?

lightdm is relatively buggy, does not reasonably support autologin yet,
and doesn't bring any advantages over gdm3. gdm3 is even smaller in
footprint size than gdm in squeeze, hence, using gdm3 in wheezy rather
than gdm in squeeze is already an improvement.

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Bug#680519: please do depend on gdm3 for lxde-desktop

2012-07-07 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Daniel Baumann (daniel.baum...@progress-technologies.net):

 having lxdm at some later point though, is nice, and i wouldn't mind the
 size decrease it bringts, however, until then the size difference
 doesn't matter much.
 
 otoh, choosing xdm is a no-go anyway, it doesn't support autologin
 (which is essential for live systems) and i don't think that the the
 installer (via tasksel) should use anything different than what we do
 with the live systems.
 
  Shouldn't it use lightdm by default like Xfce does?
 
 lightdm is relatively buggy, does not reasonably support autologin yet,
 and doesn't bring any advantages over gdm3. gdm3 is even smaller in
 footprint size than gdm in squeeze, hence, using gdm3 in wheezy rather
 than gdm in squeeze is already an improvement.

From my POV, I think the change from xdm to gdm3 seems quite a good
change and inline with the policy we had up to now: leave such
decision to those people who manage the different desktop
distributions.

So, I'd be OK with the change. Any objection from other people who
happen to wake up for tasksel bug reports?




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Bug#680519: please do depend on gdm3 for lxde-desktop

2012-07-07 Thread Touko Korpela
On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 06:53:13PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
 Touko Korpela touko.korp...@iki.fi wrote:
  Isn't it too big?
 
 for the live images, we've always been using gdm/gdm3 in lxde-desktop,
 for the installer (via tasksel), up to squeeze, gdm was used too.
 
 i don't think it's to big.
 
 having lxdm at some later point though, is nice, and i wouldn't mind the
 size decrease it bringts, however, until then the size difference
 doesn't matter much.
 
 otoh, choosing xdm is a no-go anyway, it doesn't support autologin
 (which is essential for live systems) and i don't think that the the
 installer (via tasksel) should use anything different than what we do
 with the live systems.
 
  Shouldn't it use lightdm by default like Xfce does?
 
 lightdm is relatively buggy, does not reasonably support autologin yet,
 and doesn't bring any advantages over gdm3. gdm3 is even smaller in
 footprint size than gdm in squeeze, hence, using gdm3 in wheezy rather
 than gdm in squeeze is already an improvement.

New lightdm (1.2.2-3) says to support autologin, but I haven't tested that.
If you make this change, does it make Xfce+lxde CD-images try to pull Gnome
depends in and make too tight to fit all?



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Bug#680519: please do depend on gdm3 for lxde-desktop

2012-07-07 Thread Joey Hess
Daniel Baumann wrote:
 i don't think that the the
 installer (via tasksel) should use anything different than what we do
 with the live systems.

That's backwards really. The live CDs should not be diverging from the
tasks.

 lightdm is relatively buggy, does not reasonably support autologin yet,
 and doesn't bring any advantages over gdm3. gdm3 is even smaller in
 footprint size than gdm in squeeze, hence, using gdm3 in wheezy rather
 than gdm in squeeze is already an improvement.

Are you thinking about #636104? It's fixed. Autologin works with lightdm
in my experience.

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Bug#680519: please do depend on gdm3 for lxde-desktop

2012-07-07 Thread Daniel Baumann
Joey Hess jo...@debian.org wrote:
 That's backwards really. The live CDs should not be diverging from the
 tasks.

in lenny and squeeze, we had to as tasksel did not due the right thing
out of the box and we spottet it to late in the release process.
obviously, we're doing the oposite now (spotting it early, so that there
does not need to be a difference between live and install).

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Bug#680519: please do depend on gdm3 for lxde-desktop

2012-07-06 Thread Daniel Baumann
Package: tasksel

Hi,

I'm one of the lxde maintainers in debian and we have the consens in the
team that we are recommending gdm3 to be used as the display manager for
lxde systems (which can be seen by e.g. looking at
src:lxde-metapackages, until lxdm is in the archive for wheezy+1).

Hence, please use gdm3 and not xdm in tasksel for lxde-desktop.

Regards,
Daniel

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Bug#680519: please do depend on gdm3 for lxde-desktop

2012-07-06 Thread Touko Korpela
Daniel Baumann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm one of the lxde maintainers in debian and we have the consens in the
 team that we are recommending gdm3 to be used as the display manager for
 lxde systems (which can be seen by e.g. looking at
 src:lxde-metapackages, until lxdm is in the archive for wheezy+1).
 
 Hence, please use gdm3 and not xdm in tasksel for lxde-desktop.

Isn't it too big?
Shouldn't it use lightdm by default like Xfce does?



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