Bug#687342: Experimental package?

2012-09-20 Thread Ron
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 09:31:56PM -0700, Scott Ritchie wrote:
 Was it your intention to upload to experimental immediately, or post
 Wheezy release?  Thank you :)

Unless Wheezy somehow releases in the next few days we'll surely be
making packages available in experimental long before that happens.
(and if it does release in the next few days, then they'll go to
 unstable instead :)

Is there something you really need that's being held up until that
happens?  For most people the code already in Wheezy really should
be perfectly fine to use.

  Ron


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Bug#687342: Experimental package?

2012-09-20 Thread Scott Ritchie

On 9/20/12 12:53 PM, Ron wrote:

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 09:31:56PM -0700, Scott Ritchie wrote:

Was it your intention to upload to experimental immediately, or post
Wheezy release?  Thank you :)


Unless Wheezy somehow releases in the next few days we'll surely be
making packages available in experimental long before that happens.
(and if it does release in the next few days, then they'll go to
  unstable instead :)

Is there something you really need that's being held up until that
happens?  For most people the code already in Wheezy really should
be perfectly fine to use.



Yes, we're looking to deploy the new opus in a production environment 
(Ubuntu 12.04) and rather than repackaging 1.0.1 myself I'd like to just 
sync your debian version into Ubuntu and then backport it to a 12.04 PPA.


We haven't done any testing with earlier Opus (decoding is done on a 
different platform) and don't want to risk issues from running the older 
version.


That way I don't have to worry about needless deltas or issues with my 
own packaging, and can more easily flow code back to you :)


Thanks,
Scott Ritchie


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Bug#687342: Experimental package?

2012-09-20 Thread Ron
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 02:35:11PM -0700, Scott Ritchie wrote:
 On 9/20/12 12:53 PM, Ron wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 09:31:56PM -0700, Scott Ritchie wrote:
 Was it your intention to upload to experimental immediately, or post
 Wheezy release?  Thank you :)
 
 Unless Wheezy somehow releases in the next few days we'll surely be
 making packages available in experimental long before that happens.
 (and if it does release in the next few days, then they'll go to
   unstable instead :)
 
 Is there something you really need that's being held up until that
 happens?  For most people the code already in Wheezy really should
 be perfectly fine to use.
 
 
 Yes, we're looking to deploy the new opus in a production
 environment (Ubuntu 12.04) and rather than repackaging 1.0.1 myself
 I'd like to just sync your debian version into Ubuntu and then
 backport it to a 12.04 PPA.

The current package is already synced (unchanged) to Ubuntu afaik ...

 We haven't done any testing with earlier Opus (decoding is done on a
 different platform) and don't want to risk issues from running the
 older version.

There really should be no issues with this at all.  If we were aware
of any we: a) wouldn't have shipped this version at all.  b) would be
pushing to have it updated in Wheezy.

The corollary of which is, if you have any issues with it, then please
do report them!

 That way I don't have to worry about needless deltas or issues with
 my own packaging, and can more easily flow code back to you :)

Then yeah, the best way to do that will be to run with what we currently
have.  There's nothing magically shinier about 1.0.1 - that was just a
snapshot of the current head from the day when the RFC copy-editing was
finally completed and signed off on.  A day to celebrate certainly, but
not some magic milestone in the source code itself.

There are already updates to it pending release too, which is why I'm
letting upstream QA run its course before pushing out new packages.

If you're testing for production use, then definitely the best thing
you can do is test the proposed stable release for Wheezy rather than
something newer which I expect will itself have a half-life of just
a few weeks and never go into a stable distro release anywhere.

  Ron


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Bug#687342: Experimental package?

2012-09-19 Thread Scott Ritchie
Was it your intention to upload to experimental immediately, or post 
Wheezy release?  Thank you :)



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