Bug#698555: unblock: systemd/44-8

2013-01-20 Thread Michael Biebl
Package: release.debian.org
Severity: normal
User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
Usertags: unblock

Please unblock package systemd

It contains the following two fixes:

systemd (44-8) unstable; urgency=low

  * Team upload.
  * Use comment=systemd.* syntax in systemd.mount man page. The
mount/util-linux version in wheezy is not recent enough to support the new
x-systemd* syntax. Closes: #697141
  * Don't enable persistent storage of journal log files. The journal in v44
is not yet mature enough.

 -- Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org  Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:05:05 +0100

The journal related changes probably deserve a couple of words: The
journal in v44 is still pretty new and not yet very robust. Under
certain circumstances (e.g. system crash) the journal can become
corrupted. While newer versions are much more likely to recover from
such a situation, in v44 one needs to remove the journal files in
/var/log/journal manually.
By not making the journal files persistent, after a reboot the journal
will be working again in any case.
We also still ship a syslog by default in Debian, so we do have
long-term logs.
So we decided to not ship /var/log/journal in the package for wheezy.
In that case systemd-journald will not store any log files on disk.

Full diff between 44-7 and 44-8 is attached.
debdiff will unfortunately generate a more verbose diff due to the way systemd
handles the git-export patches

Cheers,
Michael

(on behalf of the systemd maintainers)

unblock systemd/44-8

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 7.0
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (200, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.utf8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash


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Bug#698555: unblock: systemd/44-8

2013-01-20 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-01-20 13:53 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:

 Package: release.debian.org
 Severity: normal
 User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
 Usertags: unblock

 Please unblock package systemd

 It contains the following two fixes:

 systemd (44-8) unstable; urgency=low

   * Team upload.
   * Use comment=systemd.* syntax in systemd.mount man page. The
 mount/util-linux version in wheezy is not recent enough to support the new
 x-systemd* syntax. Closes: #697141
   * Don't enable persistent storage of journal log files. The journal in v44
 is not yet mature enough.

  -- Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org  Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:05:05 +0100

 The journal related changes probably deserve a couple of words: The
 journal in v44 is still pretty new and not yet very robust. Under
 certain circumstances (e.g. system crash) the journal can become
 corrupted. While newer versions are much more likely to recover from
 such a situation, in v44 one needs to remove the journal files in
 /var/log/journal manually.
 By not making the journal files persistent, after a reboot the journal
 will be working again in any case.
 We also still ship a syslog by default in Debian, so we do have
 long-term logs.
 So we decided to not ship /var/log/journal in the package for wheezy.
 In that case systemd-journald will not store any log files on disk.

Are current users of systemd advised to remove /var/log/journal
themselves?  Having used systemd exclusively for a few weeks, I
discovered a 23 Megabyte system.journal file which apparently never got
rotated or truncated.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Bug#698555: unblock: systemd/44-8

2013-01-20 Thread Michael Biebl
On 20.01.2013 15:18, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2013-01-20 13:53 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:

 So we decided to not ship /var/log/journal in the package for wheezy.
 In that case systemd-journald will not store any log files on disk.
 
 Are current users of systemd advised to remove /var/log/journal
 themselves?  Having used systemd exclusively for a few weeks, I
 discovered a 23 Megabyte system.journal file which apparently never got
 rotated or truncated.

Nuking log files is always tricky business. That's why I decided to not
remove existing journal files on upgrades for sid users.
Some sid users might have decided to uninstall (r)syslog and use the
journal exclusively. They would certainly be angry, if a postinst just
deleted those logs.
It depends on your usage of the journal.

As for the size of the journal file: That is definitely in the normal
range. See man 5 systemd-journald.conf.
By default the persistent journal files will take up to 5% of the file
system where /var/log/journal resides on.
You can tweak all those settings in the corresponding conf file.

Cheers,
Michael

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