Bug#701147: apt: add experimental - 500 priority on the translation part

2013-02-22 Thread David Kalnischkies 
tags 701147 - l10n
severity 701147 minor
thanks


Hello  thanks for the report!


On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:02 AM, bofh80 afm...@gmail.com wrote:
* What outcome did you expect instead?
 all experimental additions to be 1 (not 500) eg:
  500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main Translation-en

Just for clarification: The number in front of Translation-* entries is always
500 as no pin can sensibly match it, but that is not a problem as pinning has
no effect for Translations at all as there is no need to. Translations are
associated to the versions they belong to so an experimental Translation
can't escalated itself up to be shown for a stable package.
(Exception: stable and experimental contain the same package (version),
which therefore has the same Description and also the same Translation)



I would be in favor of hiding them from the output as they serve no real
propose other than might be confusing users, but somehow I fear there is
some usecase for it I am unaware of ( https://xkcd.com/1172/ ).

Any other ideas or should we just bite the bullet?


Best regards

David Kalnischkies


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Bug#701147: apt: add experimental - 500 priority on the translation part

2013-02-22 Thread bofh80 
Hi David, thanks for the update.
All sounds good then, i was just worried about packages from experimental
sneaking in, if that isn't the case, and some use cases for keeping it in
displayed in priority, maybe just editing the
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental  to display that information
might be enough?
either way, since it's of no consequence, i'm quite happy with whatever
solution you employ to close the bug.
thanks again
anthony.



On 22 February 2013 10:27, David Kalnischkies kalnischkies+deb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 tags 701147 - l10n
 severity 701147 minor
 thanks


 Hello  thanks for the report!


 On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:02 AM, bofh80 afm...@gmail.com wrote:
 * What outcome did you expect instead?
  all experimental additions to be 1 (not 500) eg:
   500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main Translation-en

 Just for clarification: The number in front of Translation-* entries is
 always
 500 as no pin can sensibly match it, but that is not a problem as pinning
 has
 no effect for Translations at all as there is no need to. Translations are
 associated to the versions they belong to so an experimental Translation
 can't escalated itself up to be shown for a stable package.
 (Exception: stable and experimental contain the same package (version),
 which therefore has the same Description and also the same Translation)



 I would be in favor of hiding them from the output as they serve no real
 propose other than might be confusing users, but somehow I fear there is
 some usecase for it I am unaware of ( https://xkcd.com/1172/ ).

 Any other ideas or should we just bite the bullet?


 Best regards

 David Kalnischkies

Bug#701147: apt: add experimental - 500 priority on the translation part

2013-02-21 Thread bofh80 
Package: apt
Version: 0.9.7.7
Severity: normal
Tags: l10n

Dear Maintainer,
*** Please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***

   * What led up to the situation?
nano /etc/apt/sources.list with deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/
experimental main and apt-get update (no pinning involved)
   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
 ineffective)?
apt-get update then apt-cache policy
   * What was the outcome of this action?
apt-cache policy
Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 release a=now
 500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main Translation-en
   1 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=experimental,n=experimental,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.uk.debian.org
   1 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=experimental,n=experimental,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.uk.debian.org
 500 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/non-free i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian-Security,c=non-free
 origin security.debian.org
 500 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/contrib i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian-Security,c=contrib
 origin security.debian.org
 500 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian-Security,c=main
 origin security.debian.org
 500 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/non-free amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian-Security,c=non-free
 origin security.debian.org
 500 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/contrib amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian-Security,c=contrib
 origin security.debian.org
 500 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian-Security,c=main
 origin security.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/non-free Translation-en
 500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main Translation-en
 500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/contrib Translation-en
 500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/contrib i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin ftp.uk.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/non-free i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin ftp.uk.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.uk.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/contrib amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin ftp.uk.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/non-free amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin ftp.uk.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.uk.debian.org
Pinned packages:

   * What outcome did you expect instead?
all experimental additions to be 1 (not 500) eg:
 500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main Translation-en



-- Package-specific info:

-- apt-config dump --

APT ;
APT::Architecture amd64;
APT::Build-Essential ;
APT::Build-Essential:: build-essential;
APT::Install-Recommends true;
APT::Install-Suggests 0;
APT::Authentication ;
APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM true;
APT::NeverAutoRemove ;
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: ^firmware-linux.*;
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: ^linux-firmware$;
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: ^linux-image.*;
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: ^kfreebsd-image.*;
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: ^linux-restricted-modules.*;
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: ^linux-ubuntu-modules-.*;
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: ^gnumach$;
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: ^gnumach-image.*;
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections ;
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: metapackages;
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: restricted/metapackages;
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: universe/metapackages;
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: multiverse/metapackages;
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: oldlibs;
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: restricted/oldlibs;
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: universe/oldlibs;
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: multiverse/oldlibs;
APT::Periodic ;
APT::Periodic::Download-Upgradeable-Packages 0;
APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade 0;
APT::Update ;
APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success ;
APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success:: [ ! -f /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket ] || 
/usr/bin/dbus-send --system --dest=org.debian.apt --type=signal /org/debian/apt 
org.debian.apt.CacheChanged || true;
APT::Architectures ;
APT::Architectures:: amd64;
APT::Architectures:: i386;
APT::Compressor ;
APT::Compressor::. ;
APT::Compressor::.::Name .;
APT::Compressor::.::Extension ;
APT::Compressor::.::Binary ;
APT::Compressor::.::Cost 1;
APT::Compressor::gzip ;
APT::Compressor::gzip::Name gzip;