Bug#714803: Chains of causality

2013-07-11 Thread Benjamin Eltzner
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Hi,

I worked out the following chains of causality:

task-xfce-desktop
suggests network-manager-gnome
suggests gnome-bluetooth
suggests gnome-control-center
suggests gnome-session

and

lxde
suggests network-manager-gnome ...

Now, I think there is no dispute that the result I wanted to install
a _light_ desktop and it came with the core of gnome. is unacceptable.

It might however be unfair to blame solely the maintainers of
gnome-bluetooth who happened to be the unlucky guys to close these
unfortunate chains. I personally couldn't care less, where these
chains are interrupted, but I contend they _must_ be interrupted.

I will therefore assign this bug to all packages involved in these
chains in the hope that somebody finds their package provides the
least necessary of the links.

Disclaimer: The above message is supposed to be witty. If it comes
about as insulting, annoying, moody or aggressive this is most
probably due to my not being a native speaker and completely unintended.

Cheers, Benjamin


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Bug#714803: Chains of causality

2013-07-11 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 11/07/13 11:52, Benjamin Eltzner wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I worked out the following chains of causality:
 
 task-xfce-desktop
 suggests network-manager-gnome
 suggests gnome-bluetooth
 suggests gnome-control-center
 suggests gnome-session
 
 and
 
 lxde
 suggests network-manager-gnome ...

Really? Suggests are not installed by default.

 Now, I think there is no dispute that the result I wanted to install
 a _light_ desktop and it came with the core of gnome. is unacceptable.
 
 It might however be unfair to blame solely the maintainers of
 gnome-bluetooth who happened to be the unlucky guys to close these
 unfortunate chains. I personally couldn't care less, where these
 chains are interrupted, but I contend they _must_ be interrupted.
 
 I will therefore assign this bug to all packages involved in these
 chains in the hope that somebody finds their package provides the
 least necessary of the links.

Don't do that. Reassign this to the xfce or lxde packages and let them analyze
the situation. They can reassign if/as needed.

Emilio


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Bug#714803: Chains of causality

2013-07-11 Thread Benjamin Eltzner
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Am 11.07.2013 12:01, schrieb Emilio Pozuelo Monfort:
 On 11/07/13 11:52, Benjamin Eltzner wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I worked out the following chains of causality:
 
 task-xfce-desktop suggests network-manager-gnome suggests
 gnome-bluetooth suggests gnome-control-center suggests
 gnome-session
 
 and
 
 lxde suggests network-manager-gnome ...
 
 Really? Suggests are not installed by default.
 
 Now, I think there is no dispute that the result I wanted to
 install a _light_ desktop and it came with the core of gnome. is
 unacceptable.
 
 It might however be unfair to blame solely the maintainers of 
 gnome-bluetooth who happened to be the unlucky guys to close
 these unfortunate chains. I personally couldn't care less, where
 these chains are interrupted, but I contend they _must_ be
 interrupted.
 
 I will therefore assign this bug to all packages involved in
 these chains in the hope that somebody finds their package
 provides the least necessary of the links.
 
 Don't do that. Reassign this to the xfce or lxde packages and let
 them analyze the situation. They can reassign if/as needed.
 
 Emilio
 

Oh, sorry, you are right: Substitute all suggests by recommends in
the above.

Also I took your advice and only reassigned to lxde and task-xfce-desktop.
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