Bug#718819: Bug #718819: python3 has circular Depends on dh-python
Control: clone -1 -2 Control: severity -2 wishlist Control: reassign -2 lintian Control: retitle -2 warn when using dh_python3 without explicit dependency Dear Lintian maintainers, Currently, over 250 source packages in the archive call dh_python3 (either directly or through dh) without having a build dependency on it: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718819#39 Would it be possible to make Lintian warn (or error? not sure what is appropriate) in such cases? This would hopefully make the resolution of #718819 smoother (as all such packages will FTBFS when it is fixed) Best, nicoo On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 04:51:29PM +0200, Nicolas Braud-Santoni wrote: > However, your issue can be fixed by removing the (circular) dependency of > python3 on dh-python; as Apollon noted in a previous mail [0], this requires a > Mass Bug Filling as hundreds of packages still use dh_python3 without > depending > on dh-python. > > [0]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718819#39
Bug#718819: python3 has circular Depends on dh-python
Control: tag -1 - wontfix Control: tag -1 + buster sid Hi Jim, On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:18:43AM +0200, jim_p wrote: > Package: python3 > Version: 3.6.4-1 > Followup-For: Bug #718819 > > Dear Maintainer, > > First of all, thank you for merging my report (893477) with this one. It seems > that the python3 package is a better place to make that report, although I > still think that dpkg-dev is the source of my issue. No, non-development packages pulling in dpkg-dev through python3 and dh-python is due to the spurious dependency of python3 on dh-python. > Forth, can't you just make dpkg-dev an OPTIONAL depencency for dh-python? > Making it a recommended one would still make apt install it on systems that > are > configured to install recommended packages by default, which in turn is the > default behaviour of apt. As far as I understand, dh-python does require functionality from dpkg-dev to function at all, so a hard-dependency is required. However, your issue can be fixed by removing the (circular) dependency of python3 on dh-python; as Apollon noted in a previous mail [0], this requires a Mass Bug Filling as hundreds of packages still use dh_python3 without depending on dh-python. [0]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718819#39 > Fifth, seeing that "wontfix" there means I have little to no hope of changing > your minds, and that makes me really upset. According to the earlier emails in the bug (#718819), the “wontfix” was only in the context of the `stretch` release, as there was too little time left to deal with all the packages that would require fixing. If you take the time to read the previous mails, I do not think you will find anything indicating this isn't considered a bug, or that it will not be fixed; the maintainers only need more time as there are hundreds of impacted packages. As such, I am removing the wontfix tag. Best, nicoo
Bug#718819: python3 has circular Depends on dh-python
Package: python3 Version: 3.6.4-1 Followup-For: Bug #718819 Dear Maintainer, First of all, thank you for merging my report (893477) with this one. It seems that the python3 package is a better place to make that report, although I still think that dpkg-dev is the source of my issue. Second, this report is written from my debian testing installation, because I decided to remove dpkg-dev and all the useless dependencies it brings along from my unstable system. That also removed dh-python and python3 along with more packages. I also lost pastebinit, icdiff and reportbug as I can remember, thus I can no longer use reportbug to report bugs from that system directly. Third, for a tiny package like pastebinit, apt now installs all sorts of rubbish due to that circular depencency between dh-python and python3 and the direct one between dh-python and dpkg-dev, e.g. # apt-get install pastebinit Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following additional packages will be installed: binutils binutils-common binutils-i686-linux-gnu bzip2 dh-python dpkg-dev libbinutils libdpkg-perl libpython3-stdlib libpython3.6-minimal libpython3.6-stdlib make patch python3 python3-minimal python3.6 python3.6-minimal Suggested packages: binutils-doc bzip2-doc debian-keyring gnupg | gnupg2 gcc | c-compiler git bzr make-doc ed diffutils-doc python3-doc python3-tk python3-venv python3.6-venv python3.6-doc binfmt-support Recommended packages: build-essential gcc | c-compiler fakeroot gnupg | gnupg2 libalgorithm-merge-perl libfile-fcntllock-perl The following NEW packages will be installed: binutils binutils-common binutils-i686-linux-gnu bzip2 dh-python dpkg-dev libbinutils libdpkg-perl libpython3-stdlib libpython3.6-minimal libpython3.6-stdlib make pastebinit patch python3 python3-minimal python3.6 python3.6-minimal 0 upgraded, 18 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. Need to get 12.0 MB of archives. After this operation, 55.4 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n And all that with apt being configured to NOT install suggested and recommended packages! If I had configured apt to install recommended dependencies as well, the useless ones would be a lot more. Forth, can't you just make dpkg-dev an OPTIONAL depencency for dh-python? Making it a recommended one would still make apt install it on systems that are configured to install recommended packages by default, which in turn is the default behaviour of apt. Fifth, seeing that "wontfix" there means I have little to no hope of changing your minds, and that makes me really upset. Thank you. -- System Information: Debian Release: buster/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 4.14.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_US:en (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) Versions of packages python3 depends on: ii dh-python 2.20170125 ii libpython3-stdlib 3.6.4-1 ii python3-minimal3.6.4-1 ii python3.6 3.6.5~rc1-1 python3 recommends no packages. Versions of packages python3 suggests: pn python3-doc pn python3-tk pn python3-venv -- no debconf information
Bug#718819: python3 has circular Depends on dh-python
On 13:01 Tue 20 Mar , Apollon Oikonomopoulos wrote: > Hi, > > [Following up on #718819] > As illustrated by #718819, python3 now pulls in dpkg-dev transitively > via dh-python, which on many systems will also pull in build-essential > as a Recommends. s/718819/893477/, sorry!
Bug#718819: python3 has circular Depends on dh-python
Hi, [Following up on #718819] On 13:04 Sun 05 Feb , Piotr Ozarowski wrote: > [Faidon Liambotis, 2017-02-05] > > Hi! > > > > On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 10:21:43AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > > There is a circular dependency between python3 and dh-python: > > > > > > > > python3 :Depends: dh-python > > > > dh-python :Depends: python3 (>= 3.2.3-3~) > > > > > > expected. > > > > Could you perhaps explain why is that the case? I came looking in the > > BTS because I found it odd that the python3 package, presumably intended > > for end-users (or end-systems), just wanting to run python3 code, > > depends on dh-python, a package that contains "Debian helper tools for > > packaging Python libraries and applications". > > that's because many packages still build depend on python3 without > dh-python (dh_python3 used to be shipped in python3 package). dh-python > build depends on python3-minimal only so it shouldn't be that big of a > problem. python3 will drop dh-python dependency in Buster (it's too late > to deal with all the FTBFS in Strech) As illustrated by #718819, python3 now pulls in dpkg-dev transitively via dh-python, which on many systems will also pull in build-essential as a Recommends. It appears there are roughly 250 source packages[1] in the archive that call dh_python3 (either directly, or via dh) and do not Build-Depend(-Indep) on dh-python. This will require an MBF, so if we want the dependency gone by the time Buster is out, now is probably a good time to act. Regards, Apollon [1] Obtained by diff'ing the results of the following query on codesearch.d.n: dh_python3|--with[= ][\S]*python3 path:debian/rules* against grep-dctrl -n -w -F Build-Depends,Build-Depends-Indep -s Package dh-python on sid main
Bug#718819: python3 has circular Depends on dh-python
Hi, > python3 will drop dh-python dependency in Buster This is just a reminder that this bug can now easily be closed. Greetings,
Bug#718819: python3 has circular Depends on dh-python
On Sun, Feb 05, 2017 at 01:04:41PM +0100, Piotr Ozarowski wrote: > that's because many packages still build depend on python3 without > dh-python (dh_python3 used to be shipped in python3 package). dh-python > build depends on python3-minimal only so it shouldn't be that big of a > problem. python3 will drop dh-python dependency in Buster (it's too late > to deal with all the FTBFS in Strech) Ah! That makes sense now :) Thanks for explanation! Regards, Faidon
Bug#718819: python3 has circular Depends on dh-python
[Faidon Liambotis, 2017-02-05] > Hi! > > On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 10:21:43AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > There is a circular dependency between python3 and dh-python: > > > > > > python3 :Depends: dh-python > > > dh-python :Depends: python3 (>= 3.2.3-3~) > > > > expected. > > Could you perhaps explain why is that the case? I came looking in the > BTS because I found it odd that the python3 package, presumably intended > for end-users (or end-systems), just wanting to run python3 code, > depends on dh-python, a package that contains "Debian helper tools for > packaging Python libraries and applications". that's because many packages still build depend on python3 without dh-python (dh_python3 used to be shipped in python3 package). dh-python build depends on python3-minimal only so it shouldn't be that big of a problem. python3 will drop dh-python dependency in Buster (it's too late to deal with all the FTBFS in Strech)
Bug#718819: python3 has circular Depends on dh-python
Hi! On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 10:21:43AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > There is a circular dependency between python3 and dh-python: > > > > python3 :Depends: dh-python > > dh-python :Depends: python3 (>= 3.2.3-3~) > > expected. Could you perhaps explain why is that the case? I came looking in the BTS because I found it odd that the python3 package, presumably intended for end-users (or end-systems), just wanting to run python3 code, depends on dh-python, a package that contains "Debian helper tools for packaging Python libraries and applications". Thanks! Faidon
Bug#718819: python3 has circular Depends on dh-python
Control: tags -1 wontfix Am 05.08.2013 22:56, schrieb Bill Allombert: Package: python3 Version: 3.3.2-13 Severity: important Hello Matthias, There is a circular dependency between python3 and dh-python: python3 :Depends: dh-python dh-python :Depends: python3 (= 3.2.3-3~) expected. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#718819: python3 has circular Depends on dh-python
Package: python3 Version: 3.3.2-13 Severity: important Hello Matthias, There is a circular dependency between python3 and dh-python: python3 :Depends: dh-python dh-python :Depends: python3 (= 3.2.3-3~) Cheers, -- Bill. ballo...@debian.org Imagine a large red swirl here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
