Bug#725408: Debian bug #725408

2017-06-29 Thread Sébastien Delafond
On Jun/28, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:
> This bug hasn't seen any activity for some time, so I thought I'd
> update it for 8.2.10-1 (jessie) with emacs24-common-non-dfsg
> installed.  The command "info org" shows the manual for Org version
> 8.2.10; however, the Emacs info mode (C-h i m org) shows the manual
> for Org version 8.2.9.  Emacs24 is the only emacsen that is installed.
> 
> In stretch, with emacs25-common-non-dfsg and only emacs25 installed
> "info org" shows the manual for Org version 8.2.9 and emacs' info mode
> also shows the manual for version 8.2.9.  This is very strange, seeing
> as "info org" found the correct manual in jessie!
> 
> I will probably do a mini-project on pkg-emacsen documentation during
> Debcamp17.  Would you like me to look into org-mode-doc at this time?

Sure thing, that'd be a great help !

Cheers,

--Seb



Bug#725408: Debian bug #725408

2017-06-28 Thread Nicholas D Steeves
Hello,

On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 06:54:18PM +0100, Sébastien Delafond wrote:
> 
> OK, I see it now; since I'm using emacs24 these days, I had to re-run
> your tests with emacs24-common-non-dfsg on my end to reproduce the
> behavior you see.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> --Seb
> 
> On Oct/27, Thomas Koch wrote:
> > I could reproduce this behaviour also with 'emacs -q'. My org-mode package 
> > is 
> > from backports but my org-mode-doc package from testing since there isn't 
> > one 
> > in backports.
> > 
> > I've purged both emacs23-common-non-dfsg and org-mode-doc and reinstalled 
> > only 
> > org-mode-doc from testing. Than I see the version 8 of org-mode info 
> > documentation in emacs.
> > 
> > After installing emacs23-common-non-dfsg again, I see version 6 of the org 
> > mode documentation.
> > 
> > I've purged both packages again and installed emacs23-common-non-dfsg first 
> > and 
> > org-mode-doc afterwards and still only see version 6 of org-mode in the 
> > info 
> > browser.
> > 
> > When I run "info" from the shell, I see the org 8 manual.
> > 
> > The solution might be related to this:
> > 
> > Info-directory-list is a variable defined in `info.el'.
> > Its value is ("/usr/share/info/emacs-23" "/usr/share/info/" 
> > "/usr/share/info/")
> > 
> > 
> > Documentation:
> > List of directories to search for Info documentation files.
> > If nil, meaning not yet initialized, Info uses the environment
> > variable INFOPATH to initialize it, or `Info-default-directory-list'
> > if there is no INFOPATH variable in the environment, or the
> > concatenation of the two if INFOPATH ends with a colon.
> > 
> > When `Info-directory-list' is initialized from the value of
> > `Info-default-directory-list', and Emacs is installed in one of the
> > standard directories, the directory of Info files that come with Emacs
> > is put last (so that local Info files override standard ones).
> > 
> > When `Info-directory-list' is initialized from the value of
> > `Info-default-directory-list', and Emacs is not installed in one
> > of the standard directories, the first element of the resulting
> > list is the directory where Emacs installs the Info files that
> > come with it.  This is so that Emacs's own manual, which suits the
> > version of Emacs you are using, will always be found first.  This
> > is useful when you install an experimental version of Emacs without
> > removing the standard installation.
> > 
> > If you want to override the order of directories in
> > `Info-default-directory-list', set INFOPATH in the environment.
> > 
> > If you run the Emacs executable from the `src' directory in the Emacs
> > source tree, and INFOPATH is not defined, the `info' directory in the
> > source tree is used as the first element of `Info-directory-list', in
> > place of the installation Info directory.  This is useful when you run
> > a version of Emacs without installing it.
> > 
> > Regards, Thomas Koch
> > 

This bug hasn't seen any activity for some time, so I thought I'd
update it for 8.2.10-1 (jessie) with emacs24-common-non-dfsg
installed.  The command "info org" shows the manual for Org version
8.2.10; however, the Emacs info mode (C-h i m org) shows the manual
for Org version 8.2.9.  Emacs24 is the only emacsen that is installed.

In stretch, with emacs25-common-non-dfsg and only emacs25 installed
"info org" shows the manual for Org version 8.2.9 and emacs' info mode
also shows the manual for version 8.2.9.  This is very strange, seeing
as "info org" found the correct manual in jessie!

I will probably do a mini-project on pkg-emacsen documentation during
Debcamp17.  Would you like me to look into org-mode-doc at this time?

Cheers,
Nicholas


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Bug#725408: Debian bug #725408

2013-10-27 Thread Sébastien Delafond
tag 725408 + moreinfo
thanks

Hi Thomas,

I can reproduce this behavior, even with emacs23-common-non-dfsg
installed. If M-x info, then select Org, I always end up with the
8.0 info doc.

Do you see use the backported package on squeeze, as your initial bug
report seems to imply, or the official testing package on jessie ?
Can you reproduce this bug when you start emacs with -q ?

Cheers,

--Seb


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Bug#725408: Debian bug #725408

2013-10-27 Thread Thomas Koch
I could reproduce this behaviour also with 'emacs -q'. My org-mode package is 
from backports but my org-mode-doc package from testing since there isn't one 
in backports.

I've purged both emacs23-common-non-dfsg and org-mode-doc and reinstalled only 
org-mode-doc from testing. Than I see the version 8 of org-mode info 
documentation in emacs.

After installing emacs23-common-non-dfsg again, I see version 6 of the org 
mode documentation.

I've purged both packages again and installed emacs23-common-non-dfsg first and 
org-mode-doc afterwards and still only see version 6 of org-mode in the info 
browser.

When I run info from the shell, I see the org 8 manual.

The solution might be related to this:

Info-directory-list is a variable defined in `info.el'.
Its value is (/usr/share/info/emacs-23 /usr/share/info/ 
/usr/share/info/)


Documentation:
List of directories to search for Info documentation files.
If nil, meaning not yet initialized, Info uses the environment
variable INFOPATH to initialize it, or `Info-default-directory-list'
if there is no INFOPATH variable in the environment, or the
concatenation of the two if INFOPATH ends with a colon.

When `Info-directory-list' is initialized from the value of
`Info-default-directory-list', and Emacs is installed in one of the
standard directories, the directory of Info files that come with Emacs
is put last (so that local Info files override standard ones).

When `Info-directory-list' is initialized from the value of
`Info-default-directory-list', and Emacs is not installed in one
of the standard directories, the first element of the resulting
list is the directory where Emacs installs the Info files that
come with it.  This is so that Emacs's own manual, which suits the
version of Emacs you are using, will always be found first.  This
is useful when you install an experimental version of Emacs without
removing the standard installation.

If you want to override the order of directories in
`Info-default-directory-list', set INFOPATH in the environment.

If you run the Emacs executable from the `src' directory in the Emacs
source tree, and INFOPATH is not defined, the `info' directory in the
source tree is used as the first element of `Info-directory-list', in
place of the installation Info directory.  This is useful when you run
a version of Emacs without installing it.

Regards, Thomas Koch


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Bug#725408: Debian bug #725408

2013-10-27 Thread Sébastien Delafond
tag 725408 + confirmed
thanks

OK, I see it now; since I'm using emacs24 these days, I had to re-run
your tests with emacs24-common-non-dfsg on my end to reproduce the
behavior you see.

Cheers,

--Seb

On Oct/27, Thomas Koch wrote:
 I could reproduce this behaviour also with 'emacs -q'. My org-mode package is 
 from backports but my org-mode-doc package from testing since there isn't one 
 in backports.
 
 I've purged both emacs23-common-non-dfsg and org-mode-doc and reinstalled 
 only 
 org-mode-doc from testing. Than I see the version 8 of org-mode info 
 documentation in emacs.
 
 After installing emacs23-common-non-dfsg again, I see version 6 of the org 
 mode documentation.
 
 I've purged both packages again and installed emacs23-common-non-dfsg first 
 and 
 org-mode-doc afterwards and still only see version 6 of org-mode in the info 
 browser.
 
 When I run info from the shell, I see the org 8 manual.
 
 The solution might be related to this:
 
 Info-directory-list is a variable defined in `info.el'.
 Its value is (/usr/share/info/emacs-23 /usr/share/info/ 
 /usr/share/info/)
 
 
 Documentation:
 List of directories to search for Info documentation files.
 If nil, meaning not yet initialized, Info uses the environment
 variable INFOPATH to initialize it, or `Info-default-directory-list'
 if there is no INFOPATH variable in the environment, or the
 concatenation of the two if INFOPATH ends with a colon.
 
 When `Info-directory-list' is initialized from the value of
 `Info-default-directory-list', and Emacs is installed in one of the
 standard directories, the directory of Info files that come with Emacs
 is put last (so that local Info files override standard ones).
 
 When `Info-directory-list' is initialized from the value of
 `Info-default-directory-list', and Emacs is not installed in one
 of the standard directories, the first element of the resulting
 list is the directory where Emacs installs the Info files that
 come with it.  This is so that Emacs's own manual, which suits the
 version of Emacs you are using, will always be found first.  This
 is useful when you install an experimental version of Emacs without
 removing the standard installation.
 
 If you want to override the order of directories in
 `Info-default-directory-list', set INFOPATH in the environment.
 
 If you run the Emacs executable from the `src' directory in the Emacs
 source tree, and INFOPATH is not defined, the `info' directory in the
 source tree is used as the first element of `Info-directory-list', in
 place of the installation Info directory.  This is useful when you run
 a version of Emacs without installing it.
 
 Regards, Thomas Koch
 


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