Bug#725714: Bug#715408: fixed now, but firmware problems with new installer

2013-12-12 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun

Hi Ben,

On 12.12.2013 01:50, Ben Hutchings wrote:

Control: reassign -1 installation-reports

On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 21:56 +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:

It looks like a bug in the linux kernel.


I don't think so.  The kernel log indicates that it got a negative
response from the user agent.


I'm not sure I understand your argument. Do you refer to 'firmware: 
agent aborted' as negative response from the user agent?


That is not the root of the problem, rather a symptom. The most 
problematic line is:
'check-missing-firmware: /run/udev/firmware-missing does not exist, 
skipping'
This shows that the missing firmware is not written to the file, where 
it used to be, and thus the Debian installer does not try to load the 
missing firmware from a 'firmware' folder, because it thinks that 
nothing is missing. Therefore the driver does not find the necessary 
firmware and aborts.


I don't know what program is responsible for writing the 
'firmware-missing' folder, but I assumed it would be the kernel, as this 
is about kernel modules. On the other hand, this folder is a subfolder 
of 'udev', so that may be the responsible program. If I recall 
correctly, udev merged with systemd, so perhaps this is a problem in 
systemd instead of the kernel?


Best regards,
Andreas


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Bug#725714: Bug#715408: fixed now, but firmware problems with new installer

2013-12-12 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 09:51:48AM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
 Hi Ben,
 
 On 12.12.2013 01:50, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 Control: reassign -1 installation-reports
 
 On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 21:56 +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
 It looks like a bug in the linux kernel.
 
 I don't think so.  The kernel log indicates that it got a negative
 response from the user agent.
 
 I'm not sure I understand your argument. Do you refer to 'firmware:
 agent aborted' as negative response from the user agent?
[...]

Yes.  This is what is supposed to happen when firmware is missing:

1. The driver requests firmware.
2. The kernel tries to load a file under /lib/firmware, and fails.
   (This is not implemented in the wheezy kernel.)
3. The kernel sends a request to udev to provide the firmware.
4. udev runs a firmware helper script, which records this request in
   /run/udev/firmware-missing and then returns failure.
5. udev reports failure to the kernel.
6. The kernel logs the failure and reports it to the driver.

We know that step 6 has happened, and we can infer from that that
steps 1, 3 and 5 must have happened.  The problem is in step 4.

Ben.

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Bug#725714: Bug#715408: fixed now, but firmware problems with new installer

2013-12-11 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun

Control: reassign 725714 linux
Control: tags 725714 d-i

Hi Manfred,

On 11.12.2013 05:55, Manfred Rebentisch wrote:

Burned the Jessie-Image on a CD and start the PC with the Logitech
Illuminated Keyboard.
I tried to use graphical and textual install. In both cases all have
worked. This installer seems to be OK for Jessie too!

Thanks for the testing. Since it works again, I'm closing bug #715408.


By the way:
But the network (DHCP) does not worked. While the 7.2 Release tell me,
that it need the rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw.bin file, this testing release does
missing nothing but cannot find the DHCP server.

Its a TP-LINK Model TL-WN821N (300 Mbps).

I have noticed similar problems and reported them as bug #725714 (CCed).
It looks like a bug in the linux kernel.

Best regards,
Andreas


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Bug#725714: Bug#715408: fixed now, but firmware problems with new installer

2013-12-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
Control: reassign -1 installation-reports

On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 21:56 +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
[...]
  By the way:
  But the network (DHCP) does not worked. While the 7.2 Release tell me,
  that it need the rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw.bin file, this testing release does
  missing nothing but cannot find the DHCP server.
 
  Its a TP-LINK Model TL-WN821N (300 Mbps).
 I have noticed similar problems and reported them as bug #725714 (CCed).
 It looks like a bug in the linux kernel.

I don't think so.  The kernel log indicates that it got a negative
response from the user agent.

Ben.

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