Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.
SYSTEMV WORKS RIGHT FUCKING NOW YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. Debian needs to be forked, or the systemd pushers like John Paul Adrian Glaubitz need to be thrown out of debian. This is their fucking computer religion and they are forcing it on us. They will NOT accept everyone being able to actually choose their init system, (like SYSV which WORKS! NOW), we MUST be FORCED to use THEIR religion. FUCK THEM. Honestly, if I met Adrian I would beat the shit out of him. Maybe something like that needs to happen to these fucks. If they are physically incapacitated they cannot force systemd on us, they can only play with it in their minds while they are in their coma. Adrian Wrote: On 02/11/2014 09:13 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: It seems that in case of systemd it may end being forced, doesn't Gnome 3 depend on it? . We have between 40 and 50 window managers in Debian. Nobody forces you to use Gnome. How about switching to TWM! :) Window managers are leaf packages, at least they should be. If awesome or fvwm are broken, other window managers or desktops won't be affected at all. If you are running into problems with your init system, you are risking to affect hundreds of other packages. Core components like init should be carefully chosen and maintained to be able to guarantee a stable environment. .. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.
Please a GR to override this bullshit. There are 100 people who have chosen to use systemd. Yet they override everyone else because they are in the right position. Fuck systemd from the bottom of my heart. Fuck it. Fuck it. FUCK SYSTEMD. I do not want to learn systemd. I do not want to deal with systemd. I hate the way it does things. I hate the way their community works. I hate that it does so much. I hate that it changes the system. I hate what it is: system Daemon. I want an init that does few things. An init that doesn't crash (not systemd!) An init that doesn't care that I have encrypted hdd, and _never_ did care. An init that's small and doesn't contain security errors (the larger the code the more there are, and nope C is not run directly on the iron, so whatever you think you're coding, guess again because you don't have as much control as you think once the real code is running on the machine) SystemD isn't it. I hate the attitude of it's fuck faced devs and fans. It's either them or us. They make that clear. Fuck them, Fuck their system. Fuck SystemD Fuck SystemD. We are obsolete and must obey their way. Our beliefs are superceded, says them. Fuck Systemd. Viva unix (please!). Fuck Systemd. http://images2.fanpop.com/image/polls/322000/322597_125780756_full.jpg Looking up to you unix of old and of now. Love you unix of old. You are rough but resolute. Not a new wonder kid BITCH, that thinks WE are it's bitch. FUCK SYSTEMD. Systemd fanboys try to keep steve from voting Yea, and others in or around the tech-ctte are completly different. You know, being systemd fanboys that just want to foist a completely new order on us for what seems like religious reasons, rather than a possibly slightly monetary reasons. So _COMPLETELY_ different! So yea, No steve lan, and shove systemd straight down our throats, down our gullet, through our stomach, have it crash through our guts below, and then castrate us while it powerbombs through our balls at the antepodal region from where it entered into the ground (perhaps crashing through a few floors below us and doing the same to some other poor sods). In the end there will be nothing but systemd. To make this possible steve lan needs to be moved out of the way for a clean victory for the new way(TM!). All Hail Lennart! (Lennart IS a german from Brazil, and it IS his way or NO way, so it fits).
Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Craig Bransworth craigbranswo...@aim.com wrote: In the end there will be nothing but systemd. To make this possible steve lan needs to be moved out of the way for a clean victory for the new way(TM!). I'm one of the vocal and outspoken systemd advocates. Your assertion that Ian needs to be moved out is completely baseless and ridiculous. There are 4 people for consistently vote for systemd, 4 who do this for Upstart. Before you wrote your message loads of people have pointed out that this call for Ian to be removed is inappropriate (see LWN, Phoronix, Google+). All Hail Lennart! References to religion and second world war? Really? You expect people to listen to such bullshit? Fairly easy to assign everything to conspiracy and say systemd advocates are handling in bad faith. Now read LWN and Phoronix comments. Public proof you're totally off. Note that various ctte members have stated multiple times that messages such as yours are inappropriate, don't add any value (ranting is not very useful!) and too late. This makes it quite clear you didn't investigate. Regards, Olav -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.
oops.. that was supposed to be a private message, sorry for the noise. Please remove this one and my previous one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.
Olav Vitters dixit: References to religion and second world war? Really? You expect people to listen to such bullshit? Also, as a German, I’m affronted by Craig’s comment. After all, Hitler was Austrian, not even German. Fairly easy to assign everything to conspiracy and say systemd advocates are handling in bad faith. Now read LWN and Phoronix comments. Public proof you're totally off. Actually, there’s more proof that systemd is not all roses, too. By dalias of musl fame, no less: http://ewontfix.com/14/ bye, //mirabilos -- 13:37⎜«Natureshadow» Deep inside, I hate mirabilos. I mean, he's a good guy. But he's always right! In every fsckin' situation, he's right. Even with his deeply perverted taste in software and borked ambition towards broken OSes - in the end, he's damn right about it :(! […] works in mksh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.
On 10 February 2014 11:37, Craig Bransworth craigbranswo...@aim.com wrote: Please a GR to override this ... The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. However, the message you have posted is extremely offensive and thus cannot be considered as constructive interaction with us. Please refrain from using such language when interacting with us. If you can't refrain yourself, please stop interacting with us. -- Regards, Dimitri. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014, Craig Bransworth wrote: Fuck systemd from the bottom of my heart. Fuck it. Fuck it. FUCK SYSTEMD. I do not want to learn systemd. I do not want to deal with systemd. I hate the way it does things. I hate the way their community works. Hi Craig. And thank you for your interest in Debian and its init system. Have you heard of the OpenBSD project? (http://openbsd.org/) It's a free, functional and secure operating system. It looks exactly like the kind of project you'd enjoy, because it does not use systemd or upstart. It also has a friendly and very open community that I'm sure you'd find welcoming. Kind regards, -- Sam. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.
It is pretty ridiculous to me to consider the basic plumbing on the system as replaceable as the thing that decides where on the screen my shortcut to Google search for lolcatz goes. Perhaps that is just me though. ;) See, systemd pushers are always trying to make their thing the only thing. We arre the space robots, we are here to protect you I am the shover robot, I push bread down their throats We are here to protect you Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning Humans must be shoved, they must go down the stairs Please go stand by the stairs so I can protect I am better than the shover robot --Shover and Pusher Robot ::Wrong way to do things. Oh. My. Money 'Don't you mean God?' You worship your thing, I'll worship mine --Seto Kaiba :: Correct way to do things. Do we allow users to choose their FireWire stack, WiFi or Audio Driver stack in the kernel? There were several alternative implementations of these, yet we only provide one of each. Adrian Adrian: Fuck you you cunt. You scumbags are forcing this thing on all of us. We're going to have to do something about that if you do not back the fuck down. Systemd people seem always to be fucking totalitarian PIECES OF SHIT like you. Fuck your SystemD, and FUCK your MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY approach. Oh. My. Money 'Don't you mean God?' You worship your thing, I'll worship mine --Seto Kaiba :: Correct way to do things. (Not forcing your fucking lennart pottering autistic fggt religion on us)
