Bug#728347: [Pkg-mediawiki-devel] Bug#728347: News about new upstream version of mediawiki

2013-12-23 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

 Hello dear maintainers,

(strictly speaking I’m only co-maintainer of mw-extensions,
but have helped out with mw itself too)

 can you share your plans to update the mediawiki package ?

Upstream said 1.19 would be an LTS release, so we chose
it for wheezy; I (opinion of other maintainers) do *not*
plan to upgrade it until some not-too-much time before the
freeze, in the hopes that upstream will designate another
LTS version to use for jessie-as-stable by then.

From what I can see, none of the maintainers of the mw-
related packages is (able to?) invest lots of time into
it. Keeping the same (roughly) version in stable and te-
sting reduces maintenance load, I think.

bye,
//mirabilos

PS: If you want to help out… I could really use some
feedback on #719208 (and need to remember what
Helmut suggested before I fell ill… should have
written that down immediately back then…)
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Bug#728347: [Pkg-mediawiki-devel] Bug#728347: News about new upstream version of mediawiki

2013-12-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

On Mon, 23 Dec 2013, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
  can you share your plans to update the mediawiki package ?
 
 Upstream said 1.19 would be an LTS release, so we chose
 it for wheezy; I (opinion of other maintainers) do *not*
 plan to upgrade it until some not-too-much time before the
 freeze, in the hopes that upstream will designate another
 LTS version to use for jessie-as-stable by then.
 
 From what I can see, none of the maintainers of the mw-
 related packages is (able to?) invest lots of time into
 it. Keeping the same (roughly) version in stable and te-
 sting reduces maintenance load, I think.

Well, you also ensure that you won't discover issues introduced in new
versions until well too-late in the developement cycle...

What are the chances that there will no new LTS until our next freeze?

In any case, it would still be very helpful to continue packaging new
upstream releases in experimental at least so that you can have early
feedback from people who have a special interest in those new upstream
releases... (and it looks like that some features in the new releases
generated user interest since someone filed this bug and since a
customer of mine asked about it too)

Cheers,
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Bug#728347: [Pkg-mediawiki-devel] Bug#728347: News about new upstream version of mediawiki

2013-12-23 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

 Well, you also ensure that you won't discover issues introduced in new
 versions until well too-late in the developement cycle...

Sure, but that happens always, no matter how you set the
cut-off. Unless we stick with 1.19 for jessie too. I think
you wouldn’t want that. So this is no argument.

 What are the chances that there will no new LTS until our next freeze?

Dunno, haven’t talked to the Mediawiki people yet. Worst
case, we just take the then-current version, as usual.

 In any case, it would still be very helpful to continue packaging new
 upstream releases in experimental at least so that you can have early

Hm, are you volunteering? Also, this gets a nightmare
wrt. the extensions… but I now know how to fix _that_ ;)

Anyway… I’m doing this for work at $dayjob, so the
interest from me is to have stable, not-too-often-
changing, mediawiki versions in Debian. I’ll not
block you, I didn’t block David’s package split
either, but I’m not going to do the work, sorry.

(Not speaking for the others, at least jmw and
Romain should still be there somewhere…)

bye,
//mirabilos
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