Bug#732247: grub-xen: Package description doesn't explain if this package is thought for DomUs or Dom0s

2013-12-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:48:40AM +0100, Axel Beckert wrote:
 the current package description of grub-xen leaves open if this package
 is thought for DomUs (guest machines) or Dom0s (host machines):
 
   This package contains a version of GRUB that has been built for use
   with the Xen hypervisor (i.e. PV-GRUB).
 
 I though suspect it's for use within a DomU
 (c.f. http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/PvGrub), so I suggest a more verbose
 description like this:
 
   This package contains a version of GRUB that has been built for use
   inside Xen guest domains (DomUs), i.e. for use with PV-GRUB.
   .
   It does not need to be installed on the Xen Dom0.

It's actually both; the intention is that you can install it within a
domU so that it always matches the grub.cfg there, and also have a copy
in dom0 to replace the old PV-GRUB.  (In either case it will run in the
domU context.)  The configuration code is still evolving, though, so
some assembly is still required.

Mind if I park this bug temporarily until the configuration is a bit
more established?

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Bug#732247: grub-xen: Package description doesn't explain if this package is thought for DomUs or Dom0s

2013-12-20 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi Colin,

Colin Watson wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:48:40AM +0100, Axel Beckert wrote:
  the current package description of grub-xen leaves open if this package
  is thought for DomUs (guest machines) or Dom0s (host machines):
  
This package contains a version of GRUB that has been built for use
with the Xen hypervisor (i.e. PV-GRUB).
  
  I though suspect it's for use within a DomU
[...]
 It's actually both;

Oh, ok.

 the intention is that you can install it within a
 domU so that it always matches the grub.cfg there, and also have a copy
 in dom0 to replace the old PV-GRUB.

That's surprising. IIRC pv-grub-menu is a relative new package and
there were some issues with pv-grub support in Debian's Xen in the
past. Didn't know that pv-grub is already deprecated again. (Haven't
yet started playing with it. :-)

 The configuration code is still evolving, though, so some assembly
 is still required.

OK. Planned to play around it with on my Xen test box at work after
the season's holidays.

 Mind if I park this bug temporarily until the configuration is a bit
 more established?

Not at all! I gyess it serves perfectly as reminder to rework the
description once the package stabilizes. :-)

Thanks for the feedback!

Regards, Axel
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Bug#732247: grub-xen: Package description doesn't explain if this package is thought for DomUs or Dom0s

2013-12-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 01:03:49PM +0100, Axel Beckert wrote:
 Colin Watson wrote:
  the intention is that you can install it within a
  domU so that it always matches the grub.cfg there, and also have a copy
  in dom0 to replace the old PV-GRUB.
 
 That's surprising. IIRC pv-grub-menu is a relative new package and
 there were some issues with pv-grub support in Debian's Xen in the
 past. Didn't know that pv-grub is already deprecated again. (Haven't
 yet started playing with it. :-)

Well, PV-GRUB was based on GRUB Legacy, so in some sense its underlying
code has been deprecated for years.  It's just that until recently there
hasn't been a viable replacement (other than PyGRUB, which has
fundamental security issues because it parses the domU's filesystem in
the dom0).

If you want a sense of the general direction here, see
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2013-12/msg00184.html and
thread, although I need to entirely rework the patch set.

Cheers,

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